Like I said, I had to build a new life, and in doing so, had to take an apartment, with lease, added my cats, and basically moved on. If she wanted to reconcile, she'd have to move out of my daughter's house and wouldn't be available for the grandsons 24/7. She chose to stay with the kids. I love my grandsons, but, like our other children, they need to be raised by their parents. If a grandkid wants a visit eieth the grands, that's one thing. If the kids need a little help. Cool. But you can't rely 100% on the old folks. Our other kids choose to raise their kids without the constant interference of mom and dad. I suspect when the boys get older and have left home, they'll visit their Grandpa, but now. Their mom and grandma won't let them see me.