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I've looked at both. Voting 3rd party. If it were only the two, I'd lean Trump, or just leave that space empty.

Until America gets out of the mindset there are only two parties, we are going to have crappy government.

Going into this election, only 27% of all registered voters were Democrats while the GOP had only 22%. 43% of registered voters were independent/no party preference, with the balance split among Green, Libertarian, and other assorted factions.

On other levels of elected offices, from municipal to Congress, you will find more and more independents taking seats.

But as parties go, the GOP is strongest because their TEA Party membership consists of the for southern, conservative Democrats. There has been a shifting of Conservatives ever since 1964. As the extremists joined the GOP, moderate Conservatives felt they were either pushed out or were disgusted at new member antics. They shifted first to the left (part of the reason the number of Registered Democrats swelled to 50% in 1976. By 1980, a lot of them dropped all party affiliation. The Democrats have steadily been losing voters as the GOP has stayed about the same for nearly 4 decades.

Both parties have supported weak candidates since then. The same people that diss a football player for having an opinion were the same ones that voted an elderly, B grade actor into the oval office.

Mooseman, you're seeing history as it is happening.

It doesn't matter if Trump or Hillary win, because I don't think they'll serve a full term. Either one of them will be impeached or leave office in a coffin. If it's assassination or natural causes, it's hard to say. Either way, by 2020, the president will be either Mike Pence or Tim Kaine.

so what you are saying since the repubs are the party of Lincoln , we have been voting the 3rd party as such and that must have destroyed a party. I see too many so called republicans like Mc Cain who are RINOS and thats the problem. people wanted a Non politician to run for president , and now we have one...and everyone is losing their minds (Snicker). Trump is a Pragmatist and thats what people don't understand , but I am willing to give him 4 years and see what happens. I need a Job !

I was going to give a lengthy reply, but my cat deleted it. Just as well.

If Trump can get enough votes to win, and Team Hillary doesn't have the voting rigged (you saw the primaries. She didn't beat the only one that could have easily defeated Trump by being a great politician) I can survive four years of Trump.

He's going to have a tough 4 years, regardless, if elected. Every seat in Congress and the Senate are going to be staffed with career politicians and corporate buffoons. Some members being in both camps.

He hasn't earned my vote, neither has Hillary, but the polls show him coming back.

Personally, ID like to meet with him and discuss some policies. They'll take some doing, and he'd have to have the balls to do them. I don't trust Hillary a bit, and I was a staunch supporter of her for years. I was a registered Democrat for forty years. WAS!!!

What I recommend you do for your pro Trump memes is make a list of why you support him. To kick it off, a good reason is he got the party nomination legitimately.

They dont give me enough daily submissions to list why...LOL
I admin a Gun forum and we have a chat room where we discuss it...mostly veterans, former LEO's etc.and we cannot find one thing she has done that we could say we are proud of her for doing that...

The only thing she's done for the American soldier is helped put them in harm's way. One reason why I was a Bernie supporter: he fought harder for the American vet than any other politician in my memory.

My big worry right now is two fold. I'm more concerned about us going into war full bore, not a police action, in the middle East within the next four years. If so, I would suspect the draft to not only be brought back, but for the bill the Senate passed a few months ago that would start including women in the draft.

I've got two grandsons I know it would affect. I have no problem with them serving, but I feel that should be their choice. The other two would get medical deferments (epilepsy, but by then, he'd be too old for draft, and severe asthma for the other) on top of that, I have four granddaughters. I don't want them drafted, but would be proud if they served. And I pity any enemy
they had to deal with. Bum knees and peacetime prevented me from serving. I tried.

No, Hillary is a spoiled rich kid that never had to work a physical job. But if I hold that against her, ID have to hold it against Trump. Maybe one of the misgivings I have.
Right now, we have to get our affairs in order here. The corporate overlords want us at war more than ever before. If you get a chance, read the book War Is A Racket. It came out about 7 years before WWII, and was written by a retired USMC General, Smedley Butler.

Actually , you should read the Trump family history and how he started with very little to build his empire. I agree about the war thing , and draft, Trump wants men and women separated as far as war goes he said. My concern is we havent fought on our soil because we take the fight to them and so deploying oversees is a better choice IF WE MUST.I take care of a disabled Veteran lady and I see the VA problems and how are military is depleted. God help us !

Clearly the work of evil.