When everyone apart from her is now racist

When everyone apart from her is now racist | WE SENT OUR DAUGHTER TO COLLEGE TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION BUT SHE CAME BACK SPOUTING LIBERAL CATCHPHRASES | image tagged in memes,first world problems,education,liberal,college,feminist | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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HI DADDY! THAT'S RACIST! | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Uh oh I'm in trouble :)
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Lol
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IF WE CONTINUE TO SEND OUR CHILDREN TO CAESAR FOR THEIR EDUCATION WE NEED TO STOP BEING SURPRISED WHEN THEY COME HOME AS ROMANS. ~ VODDIE BA | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
I feel ya. That is just one more reason why we homeschool and encourage trade school and apprenticeships over college.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq_tcyPV7Vg
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Creepy Condescending Wonka Meme | LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. YOU DON'T WANT YOUR CHILDREN INDOCTRINATED IN AN EDUCATION SYSTEM WHERE EVERYTHING THEY ARE TAUGHT IS FILTERED THR | image tagged in memes,creepy condescending wonka | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
The belief that homeschooling is free from indoctrination has always seemed absurd to me.
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10 ups, 1 reply
I think the idea is not so much that homeschooling is free from indoctrination, but that it's free from unwanted indoctrination (ie, free from indoctrination by the state, rather than the parents).

But I don't know much about homeschooling.
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Indoctrination is indoctrination is indoctrination :o
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Indoctrination by the Government school system is "Borgish" and "hive mentality". At least you get diversity and individualism with home schooling... I'll take individualism over the hive every time... :0)
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3 ups, 1 reply
All learning involves indoctrination of some kind.
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My 20 year old daughter is in college, she tried pulling that shit on me, needless to say she was reminded who's paying for this adventure. She snapped out of it, i gave her a big hug and told her how much i loved her.....the end! (Of the liberal bullshit, too!)
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4 ups, 1 reply
Right, homeschoolers do not want their children indoctrinated into state run thinking (or lack thereof). We do not want our children to be fashioned by the state ... in any sense. Homeschoolers typically prefer to have freedom in education. Just 'how' the state indoctrinates is a large subject. It has to do with the very idea of mass education based on age, gender, location, etc. It has to do with teaching that we learn to test not to satiate curiosity or for mastery. It has to do with being forced to sit quietly and very still while you are told what to think and believe and cherish. It has to do with explaining that some children are good learners and some children are not good learners. Yes, the state does indoctrinate. And some of us are not down with that.
Now. As to what you focusing on ... the "worldview". Of course parents are going to share their worldview. That is how it should be. Each of us when we reproduce then teaches the children that we are responsible for all about the world. Everything that we have learned about it to date. That is a good thing. it is an inevitable thing. It is a natural thing.
If I had to chose (and I do) which worldview I want my child to have ... our family's worldview or the state's worldview ... I'm going to have to go with our family's worldview.
That is not 'indoctrination' that is called education. Education only turns indoctrination if there is no room for difference of opinion. If I teach a 6 day creation, and I do, and my child says they do not agree with it ... I will not fail my child because of it. But if that same child were to go to PS where they teach evolution and my child were to say they did not believe in evolution not only would my child fail that portion of the work but likely would be put on a list (yes they do ... check out data mining) and I might even get a letter home.
I had a child in public school for 6 years, we have not always homeschooled.
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No offense intended, but I shudder at the thought of people who homeschool their children just so they can drill their own beliefs into their kids' heads and try to turn them into little ideological clones of themselves. Some people homeschool their kids to teach them that Jews are evil and run the world. Some people homeschool their kids to teach them that all black people are evil, or all white people, or Christians/Muslims/atheists are evil, fill in the blank. Public education isn't perfect, to be sure, but it has standards for a reason. If someone in homeschool is taught things that are historically or scientifically inaccurate, who's gonna know? I'm sure it would bother you if a Muslim homeschooled their children to be "indoctrinated" into supporting sharia law and killing infidels. That's why it bothers me when some people homeschool their children into believing the Bible is inerrant and not to be questioned.
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Mmm. And I shudder at the idea of strangers thinking they know what my child needs better than I do, teaching children that white people are evil and racist from birth, that sometimes you can have two daddies or two mommies, that the government knows better than your mom and dad, and that God is just a mental illness.
No offense taken. Just because the thought of me raising a family and giving my children a a well rounded education makes you literally shudder lol Of course I'm not offended by that.
Let the memes continue.
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4 ups, 1 reply
I went to public school from K-12 in the liberal bastion of California, and i was never taught that white people are evil and racist from birth, that the government knows better than my parents or that God is a mental illness. Having two moms or two dads is fine and dandy in my opinion, but that was never pushed on me in public school.

Just for the record, I wasn't including you in the group of people who make me shudder, even though I do believe YEC is not exactly harmless.

Would you agree with me that people who homeschool for the purposes of raising their children to hate others is worrisome?
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Those are things on today's education agenda. As is Islam.
Of course teaching hate is an ugly thing. However I would contend that homeschoolers are less likely to teach hate. Parents invest so much of themselves and their lives to education... It typically attracts a certain type of person. Of course, some of us who used to use public schools were equally active in those. Just saying that it is less likely to find homeschooling parents who only teach limited, tunnel vision type curriculum since the point of it is to "educate". You would be more likely to find pants who teach hate and children who learn to hate in public schools. It is public schools that have a great many uninterested and uninvolved parents. Those parents do their teaching in their daily attitudes.
Hate is worrisome of course. What is there to be done about it? In public school if a child is being taught hate.... what should be done?
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I don't understand what you mean about public schools teaching kids to hate. Parents who homeschool often (not always but often) do so because they don't like what their kids are being taught in public schools, and want to teach their kids what they feel their kids should learn. That seems like an environment ripe for tunnel vision and narrow views. I wasn't taught to hate at home and I wasn't taught to hate in public schools, so hate is not something I ever had to unlearn, because I never learned it.
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As a homeschooled kid, I guess I should weigh in on this..

For one thing, most homeschooled kids I know and associate with are much more open minded than most publicly schooled people I've associated with. In school, you have teachers, friends, etc pushing all their opinions down your throat. Obviously, the same happens in homeschool, but let's not try to lie to ourselves and start thinking that public schools are these bastions of free thinking and open mindedness. They aren't.

As to the subject of indoctrination, I think it happens on both sides, but I think we have many failures throughout history of mass government-controlled public education. Good intentions notwithstanding, they are huge propoganda machines.

And if parents are so dead set on forcing their views on their kids, they don't need to homeschool them to do that, and being publicly schooled probably won't prevent it.
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I would be lying if I said that public schools teachers never push an agenda, but I certainly don't think it happens as often as some people think it does. In 11th grade I had two history teachers who were hardcore feminists, but even at that age I could think for myself and see through the BS.

I agree that indoctrination happens on both sides, but calling public schools "propaganda machines", even to the extent that that is accurate, underestimates students' ability to think for themselves and not buy into the BS and hype.

I think the more committed a parent is to force their beliefs and worldview on their children, the more likely they are to want to homeschool them and therefore remove any outside (read: corrupting) influences that would interfere with the process. I have cousins that were homeschooled as well as totally sheltered from the outside world by my hyper-religious uncle and aunt. It was creepy.
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As a former teacher can I say something? I have had homeschooled children that were either really advanced (way way beyond gradevel ) or dumb as posts. Oddly, the students who were homeschooled for political rathrr than religious reasons were the failures.
We have a homeschool program that does two days in the classroom and the rest at home. These kids do very well and advance quicker than the bulk of the mainstreamed kiddos.
My position on evolution was simple. I ain't a theologian, therefore, I will not teach religion. (I have more insight into theology than I let on to the parents or kids). You may have alternate beliefs, and I will note them, but it isn't what I'm teaching. You are responsible for this content. Your parents and church are responsible for their content at home.
You wouldn't believe the fallout I got when teaching archeology. Yes, dear atheist, the Bible is a viable source of reference. Some of the largest finds of the twentieth century were used by triangulating Bible references with Roman notes.
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Beautiful discussion. I totally agree with Octavia although I wouldn't put so much the stress on homeschooling itself. It's rather a matter of why parents want to homeschool. Most homeschoolers in Europe are liberal radicals or environmentalists or Walford education fans, who just want a less stressful and more childy childhood for their children. On the other side, I was in a nuns' Catholic school, where we said our prayers before school and before lunch and we were taught the many evils of Islam. But ever since I was 7 I started having my own doubts on what I was told. My parents also were hardcore carholics, but despite all that I ended up a Unitarian Universalist who votes for communists.
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I should type on my computer not my phone :(
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I sent my kids to public school, and every day I asked them what they learned. Some days I agreed with what they had been taught, other days I explained to them why what they were taugh was bullshit. When it came to 'test' time, I told my kids to give the answer the teacher wanted, but to not necessarily believe it. But then my son married a girl with THREE College degrees. Now she stays at home with the grandkids I never get to see because I said Bernie was a commie, spewing her Liberal world view to everyone while they struggle to pay off her massive student loans. College is the Thunderdome where Conservatism gets demonized.
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This meme is only half-serious. It's based on something someone else said.

I like the idea of what universities can offer, at least in theory. I think it's good to be well-rounded, have a view of the world that you can articulate and defend, and have an idea of where the knowledge and skill-sets that you use for your particular career fit in with other areas of study. Those are things you won't necessarily get at trade school, or apprenticeships, and I think those things can be important (perhaps for some people more than others).

However, I think in practice, some universities have become ideologically agenda-driven, and have become places for the professors to inculcate the students with their (usually liberal) worldviews. I don't think that's healthy. I don't know why some universities have become that way.
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Possibly. I've been to both and I was surprised at how much trade schools have to offer in that regard. I suppose it just depends on where you go.
However, years ago people has mentors and did apprenticeships and internships. A lot got done under that system as well.
Different strokes for different folks I reckon. I just really get irritated when people act as if college is the only place learning can take place. As if they are the keepers of knowledge and in order to get some of it you have to pay insane amounts of money. It's almost like they are holding knowledge hostage lmao.
If one wants to know something, one only need crack a book lol. And you know, college books are for sale outside of college too ;-)
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http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid
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Thank you for the link. :)
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10 ups, 1 reply
:)
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:)
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10 ups, 3 replies
Remember when the jet crashed in San Fran and all the media was reporting this as the pilot names :)
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Is that an actual image from the news report or an Internet joke? I'm not saying those were the actual pilots' names, but did someone at the TV studio slip it in as a joke?
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6 ups, 1 reply
Wow. No, I don't remember seeing that kind of coverage. That's kind of surprising.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Someone duped them and they reported it as the pilots names..that is an actual not a joke.. I remember lester holt reporting it too
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8 ups, 2 replies
It's surprising that news anchors were tricked into reporting it as real news!
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Everyone trying to get the scoop first :)
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News Anchors are hired for their voice or their boobs, not their brains. Back in the before time in the long long ago reporters had to actually do some investigative work themselves, not just be served up somebody elses report on a teleprompter. Now, if you are the Anchor and get a big head, and you piss off the kid who writes your copy and makes you look smart, you are eventually going to get pranked by the smarter underling.
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Oh man, I remember when that was reported on the news. I was choking because I was laughing so hard! What a shame though, first 777 to be destroyed.
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I couldn't believe it when I heard them announcing the names, I was like how can they be so stupid,. It was sad
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What was even more stupid is the fact that the airline hired a pilot who didn't even know how to fly the 777 to fly the plane to San Francisco.
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Hard place to land even for an experienced pilot.
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AHH A COMMIE!!!
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;-) I ... kinda had to ;-)
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:)
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True college is an indoctrination machine.
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Not sure I get your point there. I mean critical thinking skills. Universities and seminaries have different functions, so I wouldn't expect universities to function like a seminary does.
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3 ups, 2 replies
Just pointing out that a seminary is an institute of higher learning, but it has an obvious Christian slant, some of them to the point of shunning any doubt or criticism of the Bible, which is the opposite of teaching critical thinking skills.
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5 ups, 2 replies
Before we turn this into creationism VS evolution (Both of which are theories and can not be proven- i.e your guess is as good as mine) seminaries are meant to have a christian slant. It's basically college for pastors. Yes, they get a degree, but universities claim to be neutral. Everyone knows a seminary has a christian slant and nobody is disputing that fact.
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I disagree with your first point about C&E both being theories and "your guess is as good as mine", but I agree with the rest of your comment regarding seminaries :)
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Well said!
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3 ups, 1 reply
Oh you mean like how evolution is taught exclusively in public school from elementary through college? Or how it is acceptable to speak about a world wide flood in Western Civ but not in science class ... regardless of the evidence supporting it?
As for seminary being a "Christian slant" ... well, I reckon huh? Otherwise it isn't a very good seminary school lol And ... if you doubt or criticize the bible and you are in seminary school ... you're just taking up space of a student that actually wants to be there.
Critical thinking is different than criticism and shunning.
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4 ups, 3 replies
I have to ask: if the scientific evidence supported creationism or a global flood, wouldn't it be taught in a science class? The scientific evidence that we have thus far points to biological diversity resulting from evolution, a cosmos that is billions of years old, etc. That's why those things are taught in science classes. I'm not trying to sound rude or condescending; I'm just saying that's what scientists have found after many decades of study and research.
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One would think. I mean it would make sense of there is evidence to support it why would it not be taught in science class? After all, science is based on observable, repeatable, testable criterion.
There is plenty of evidence to support creationism and a great food. From a critical thinking, scientific perspective.
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2 ups, 2 replies
But science only deals with natural phenomena. Creationism by its very nature appeals to a supernatural explanation for things. That makes it unscientific.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Science that is taught in public school about evolution and how the universe was created is unprovable BY the science that it claims to be. Are you aware that some fossils date older than the material they are found in. Or that some portions of fossils date millions of years differently than other portions of the same fossil ... like two portions of the same arm bone? I think most students and teachers would be surprised to learn these things. Are you aware that there are fossils of fish in the middle of consuming other fish? Bones uncovered of animals mid-battle. There are a great many inconsistencies in "popular science" and many events that cannot be explained from an evolution standpoint. No instance of one kind changing to another kind.
The bible at every turn is proven to be true.
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Evolution, like any area of science, cannot be proven in the same way that 2+2=4 can be proven, with mathematical certainty, but it can be shown to be entirely consistent with the evidence we have, just like heliocentricity cannot be proven with mathematical certainty, yet it can be shown to be consistent with all the evidence we have.

I've heard claims regarding unusual fossil dates, and I've also heard perfectly reasonable explanations for these apparent discrepancies, such as the reservoir effect, and also outright lies by some people making these claims.

If you are referring to transitional forms, yes, we have many examples of them, including tiktaalik, icthyostega, acanthostega, pandericthys, pakicetus, etc etc. Everytime someone says there are no transitional forms, people give them a list, but that list is never good enough, so they ask for more, and it never ends.

The Bible does contain events which are completely unscientific, such as the sun standing still for an entire day, Jacob producing different types of livestock offspring by having the animals mate in front of striped sticks, talking snakes and donkeys, and stars falling to Earth. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but these are facts, plain and simple.
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Evolution is not dealing with natural phenomenon. It is a theory that one man came up with (and then he, himself rejected) and is not observable, testable or provable and yet ... it is taught as fact in public schools. How do you reckon that happened? Why do you reckon that happened?
I wonder why it is that seculars do not question it more. Is it because they believe that it is an either or? Either Darwin was right or the Bible is right? Well, that's some lazy thinking. I think, if I were a secular type, I would be wise enough to look at Darwin and know he is full of shit and set out to figure out what the real answer was. Whether it be God or not God. I would want to know and not be force fed BS evolution.
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Genetic mutations and variations being passed down through successive generations, eventually resulting in speciation, is a natural phenomenon, it is observable, it is testable, it is provable to the extent that something scientifically can be proven, and it is not a theory that just one man came up with.
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I do agree with you. I think natural selection is true, but I don't see how evolution is true. How does a cell work its way up to become a monkey? How does it grow arms? Still, natural selection will 'better' the species to adapt. Just not grow an extra limb. It makes sense, but then a gap scientists skim over will jump out.
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It used to be taught and evolution was taught as a theory only--more than a few years ago! Lol!
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presentation of scientific evidence that contradicts the evolution narrative results in FIRING. Halton Arp was barred from U.S. observatories
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Irony. It seems that you believe that critical thinking and Christianity are mutually exclusive. You are basing that 'belief' on what? Have you gone to seminary? Clearly you are not familiar with Christian Apologist Ravi Zacharias. One of the greatest theologians of our day. If you are interested YT Russ Miller for lessons in Creationism. Or if you want someone a little more ... wild ... check out Trey Smith God in a Nutshell.
Critical Thinking ... our guy invented that. ;-)
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I'm not saying that critical thinking and Christianity are mutually exclusive. But the more fundamentalist a person is, the less you see them using their critical thinking skills. I would say that goes for pretty much anybody. The more emotionally committed you become to your beliefs, the less intellectual attachment matters. I am familiar with Ravi Zacharias. He is a smart guy. I am also familiar with numerous creationists such as Ken Ham, Carl Baugh, John Morris, Jason Lisle, etc.
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Ravi is one that if I hear him on the radio while I'm flipping channels ... I have to stop and he has my full attention. He's so good. I could spend the whole day YTing his videos lol
Ken is good, Russ Miller is better. Sometimes I feel like Ken doesn't finish the thought he is making or doesn't make a strong enough point. Russ Miller is pretty clear.
And I am serious ... Trey Smith ... his videos are LONG and he very well may be on the Spectrum but he is at the coolest end of it. :-D Kinda just tickles the shit out of me. If you are so inclined check him out. :-)
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Check out Jeff Durbin with apologia studio on YouTube. Type in atheist debates with Jeff Durbin at the reason rally. He is very much a critical thinker.
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Hey Anona-love Ravi. Check out Jeff Durbin apologia studios. Has great debates with atheists at the reason rally and destroys and exposes their logic.
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That's pretty unusual!

Although now that it's been mentioned, there will probably be some, pretty soon... :D
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At least she came back the same gender. That's a plus.
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Unless she is majoring in Engineering, but it's pretty rare to find a woman majoring in Engineering.
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Don't you mean "WHO she does on a school night? :0
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Oh! That was funny!
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Sorry, but I don't know what you are talking about.
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as in the guy holding the sign....she's doing THAT guy. ;)
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I even used Princeton Colors. Lol, wait?!? Is that microaggression?
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:)
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Im going to tell everyone thats a selfie :)
joking
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It's Gersh Kuntzman. There have been a number of memes making fun of him on imgflip because of his AR-15 review ("horrifying, menacing, and very very loud").
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Oh. I remember that. I bet he manscapes and shares his feelings.
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mebbe a difrent college wouldve been better :(
my condolences
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If this is true, I'm really sorry.....
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Just remember, kids. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
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The focus is on your ability to earn a living with your area of expertise in the private sector. But I suspect you knew that.
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