Seek the adams apple and you shall know the truth...

So it's your first ever reply to me and you start out with immature name calling and more blame? Dude come on you are going to have to do better than that. Everybody has seen your whole blah blah cuss cuss I'm really upset routine. You think that childish crap is going to work on me? You think because you act reeeaalllyy upset that makes you sound like less of a crybaby? Why are you so scared to tell us who this magically appearing in your mind account of yours is? If you are doing that good wouldn't that make you one of the people on the leader board that you so despise? Don't even try and come at me with this bullshucks you throw at other people little man. I will out think you 27 times to Sunday and you will end up standing there with your dick in your hand wondering what just happened and why everybody is laughing at you! You want to impress me make a damn funny meme and submit it, I swear to tiny 6lb 8oz baby Jesus if you are actually funny I am not too proud to admit you have some skill. Otherwise you are just some crybaby blaming others for what is essentially your lack of self confidence. I think you're scared to put your creations out there and be judged on them as you so easily judge others. This isn't some conversation you are going to win by yelling and cussing like we are 13 in a school parking lot. You want to say you are better than those who have earned their spot above you. Then put up or shut up little man, show everybody just how much better you are than those of us who have already proven it.

Thank you, I think I am going to print off that comment and frame it. It isn't often in life that you disagree with a person, then have them turn around and give you proof of how wrong they are thanks for that! I think my favorite part is where you say "even you commented on this one a couple times!" Me?? Positively comment on a meme?? You can't be serious?? Here you are telling everybody that the "board" members attack you all the time. Then you post links to two blank memes that got on the front page because those same people you hate took the time to comment on them and make them popular. Unfortunately it also proves you are a complete nut job and that talking to you isn't going to change a thing. I can waste all kinds of time telling you like I am now, that the only problem for you on this site is your inability to socially interact with people in a positive way. Most mature, rational human beings are aware that the second you bring emotions into an argument you lose it. Nobody is going to listen to what you have to say when you are spouting off cuss words and insults right and left. Those are just childish tactics used by the immature in order to distract others from the topic at hand. You know you are wrong somewhere in that little head of yours. There's an adult in there somewhere but your pride and ego are refusing to let it out. I've seen you interact with others on this site many times. The thing is when you start resorting to things like name calling and threats of violence people that may have agreed with your initial point stop listening. Nobody wants to throw their hat in the ring with crazy and unstable dude, nobody. I have to say I am disappointed I believe I was hoping for more out of this exchange. I thought for sure when I challenged you to make one simple funny meme I would get something at least entertaining back from you. Not links to two blank memes that made the front page because the people you hate so much made actual funny memes in the comment section. I hate to say it but I just don't think our relationship here has a future. I know it's only been a short amount of time but already I see us falling into a rut. You're going to keep ranting and raving trying to insult me into becoming emotionally involved in all this. While I'm just going to keep holding a mirror up to you hoping you might somehow perceive the way others are seeing you. I'm sorry but I'm just not that into this, in fact I'm bored....

The part about you making good memes is true. I've seen it.

Below you wrote a few comments about how top users (and specifically Raydog) have been doing things that have been ruining your experience on this site.

If you don't mind me asking, could you be more specific about what it is exactly that other people have been doing to ruin your experience? I don't get why you would say that - are you talking about memes being made about you, and people commenting about you, or about something else?

I'm not trying to antagonize you, and if you don't want to answer, that's fine. I just want to understand what it is that you think people have been doing wrong to you.

Well we can start with the over 300 meme comments from tetsuoswrath that he made about me when he was attacking me. While that was going on, there was the the downvoting group that he recruited that caused me to have to wait 2 hours between commenting. Then you can include the fact that the admins and the creator of this site did nothing to resolve the issue no matter how many times I contact them. If we start going to more recent stuff, it would include the memes intentionally made to call me out, the comments made on other memes about me in hopes that I won't ever see them, the weeks I spent trying to get you guys to realize the problem I was trying to address when the only response was you guys redefining the problem to be something completely different no matter how many times I stated that wasn't the problem, and even the fact that no matter how many times I tell you guys I feel like all of this is attacks, you brush it off, dismiss everything I say, and then put the entire blame of your actions onto me. I could get into even more stuff, but frankly if you can't see how any of this would ruin someone's time on this site then there wouldn't be a point in continuing the list

Thanks for replying.

As to the earlier stuff, I don't see what:

1. a flame war between you and tetsuoswrath

2. you disagreeing with the admins and the creator of the site

have to do with "top users ruining your experience."

As to the more recent stuff you mentioned:

-memes made intentionally to call you out,

-comments made behind your back, and

-redefining a problem you were trying to address,

I'm not really sure whether it was only "top users" engaging in that, or whether those reactions were from a mix of different users on the site.

It's hard for me to see how the things you describe ruin your experience on the site, or how they warrant the kind of behavior you're engaging in. I've seen other users put up with similar things. However, I do acknowledge that it's frustrating.

It would be good if you were able to enjoy the site, and if other people were able to enjoy your memes and comments. What is it that you would like to see happen?

For the earlier stuff, it is what started my experience being ruined on this site. As for how it ties in with the top users, how many of you people were helping me when I was being attacked vs how many of you just blamed me for the attacks? The only thing worse than a bully is the bystander sitting there watching it take place and do nothing so they don't get attacked as well.

If you can't see how the other items, when it is constantly taking place, can ruin someone's experience on this site, well that is because you haven't experienced enough of it personally to know. Image if you will walking into the break room at work, no one sees you, and you discover they are talking shit behind your back. You approach them on it, and they say that it is your fault and that you should just deal with it. Imagine that happening every day. Are you going to enjoy your time at work with that going on? So you bring it up to the boss, they ignore you. How much better does that make you feel? But it's only words, right? Words can't hurt you.

Considering ruining someone's experience on this site is against the rules of this site, then there should be some form of punishment to take place. Now one of my accounts got deleted by the admins because I decided to attack an individual in a way that could hurt their experience on this site, but only because the admins were refusing to do anything about the attacks towards me. So why shouldn't the same punishment be given to others?

Going to my profile and reading my comments ROFLMAO!!!

Link it up, or was that on one of you other accounts that got so bad you had to replace it? Sorry to disappoint you but I have no interaction with Dylan so you will have to continue your rants with him directly.

Should I tell him the reason he never gets any upvotes is because they all come to me...LOL

I'm not sure if he created a bunch of alts to downvote this back to submission or cried to the mods. Either way I thought it was funny. imgflip.com/i/13hgn0

Just because I reported it and it went back into submission status, that doesn't mean they did it because I reported it. It could have received enough downvotes to put it there itself. If the admins did anything, it should have been deleted, not just put back into submission status.

ROFL!!! Take your credit and pat yourself on the back. You accomplished something today. You made the internet that much better for everyone else :)

It looks like I got my message across... by the way, what happened to Imgflip being out to get you? It looks to me like they gave the baby his bottle when he cried.

Wow, that would help all of those new users you care about so much. Excellent plan. Oh my, maybe this IS all about you????

Wow, I am amazed at the ability downvotes have to low rate comments, yet nosy people will always click on low rated comments, that's where the drama is. it is truly immature and self defeating to engage in name calling, fight challenges, threats, and obscenities never make one look tough, just ignorant. Yet I get what he was getting at. I might have felt the same way or gotten butt hurt and deleted my account, if Invicta, John, Meme makerCJ, & I know there were probably others didn't work to find common ground and ask me questions, I do get caught up in debates as well. Socrates was approachable about technicalities, and always honest about what he likes. I don't kiss butt, I like what I like, but I get what he means about leader board worship, sometimes you all get treated with awe. You might have some young ones down voting any who disagree with you. However, you are all funny too, and been here awhile, know and like eachother, that's not conspiracy, just friendships. I don't downvote anything unless I believe it is truly mean spirited or a lie. Never have I gotten that from any commenting here. I guess some people can only see things from one side.

One more thing, I realize I just verbally kicked your butt yet I feel I have to say a bit more. What is it exactly we disagree on?? You keep spouting this same thing over and over and I'm sorry but it makes you look rather crazy. You never ever mention what it is exactly we all disagree on. Which leads me to believe it is simply the fact that you are not a creative or funny person. Yet you are super pissed that you can't seem to make a picture with words on it be funny to other people. I've already figured you out and am so done with you it's really almost a damn travesty! Here I thought we might have somebody whose skill had been overlooked somehow and eventually you would show some intelligence. Nope, just some dude who isn't willing to even try and be funny but still wants some damn attention. Do us all a favor and go call your momma so she can tell you that you are special. Somebody needs to and it isn't going to be me since all I have seen from you is behavior I would admonish my kids for exhibiting. Either grow up or grow a set, either way it should enable you to get over your insecurities and maybe make memes instead of being the absolute definition of butt hurt...

What you fail to realize is that everybody here starts as a new user. If things were like you say they are why are so many people climbing incredibly fast up the charts right now? Everybody that's starts here has the exact same opportunity, it's up to them not the site what they do with it. Please forgive us for celebrating each others achievements, heaven forbid we have a good time on here when we could be complaining about everything like you. None of us get paid for this but you are acting like we do. I am so glad I am not the type of person that see's things like you do.If you work I bet the people you work with all love you. I can see you now whining all day about how your bosses won't take your advice and how you'd be making more money if only things ran your way. Story as old as time and you sir are stuck on repeat. Why is it I wonder if you have all these accounts none of them are popular? Surely this horde of people you say attack you would let one slip through the cracks and reach whatever goal you are so angry about not achieving. If you truly believed this site was so crooked why would you stay here? Surely there are other meme sites out there, or are they all set up to keep poor little you down? How big is this conspiracy? Just how much of your life is controlled by people you don't like? Do you even like anybody? Is there any point to life? Who shot Kennedy and why do commercials buffer so much? Can't we all just... bleh I'm so bored right now!

Ok I have to ask what is it exactly you want to change? I haven't seen whatever it was that started all this and I can't have an opinion about what you think this site needs if I don't know what it is. I do know that there are a lot more people here than there were when I started. Commenting is supposed to be fun not just a way to get your name out. It doesn't take 100 a day anybody commenting that much has to love doing it. I'd say 5 decent comments a day on a few memes that're doing well is enough to build a reputation on. The thing is the people up front a lot are also really fun to comment back and forth with. When I log on and have 30 notifications I don't think yay I can get my name out more. I think yay I can't wait to see what they thought about whatever I made. The site has a obligation to all of us to try and do what's best and bring in views for their advertiser's. That's why anything that is getting a lot of views very fast moves up. There is no great meme judge that says nope that one can't go up front. If there was your blank ones wouldn't have made it since there is no reason to click on and copy them to send to other people. That was the community being nice to you something you think shouldn't influence how well a meme does. The first time I made front page the next day all three of my submissions did as well. I had just made the top of the 7 day leader board when we got hacked and they deleted all 4 of those memes plus I lost 40,000 points off my score on the 7 day board. They brought my memes back in a few hours, only that short amount of time with nobody looking at them them was enough to drop them down pretty far from the front page. So maybe some people get a boost from their fans that can get a meme rolling, but without others constantly viewing it, it has no chance of getting far and staying there. Most of mine are slow movers that reach somewhere between page 2 and page 10. And I don't think there are many people that comment more than me. The whole thing is entirely too random for anybody to control it like you say.

Aww and here I thought since you had stopped cussing and calling me names we might have been becoming buddies here :( I've finally figured out all I needed to know though so I guess it doesn't matter. You were around before people really started commenting and interacting with each other and your memes did fairly well. Then when commenting began to become popular you became less so. People started becoming friends and having fun together and you believe these relationships started them upvoting each other no matter what while the memes you made weren't unless you were lucky enough to get a good spot on the the latest board. So then the idea of changing something I wish I could remember what but when I saw the way you argued it I stopped paying attention. Anyway you really wanted things to go back to how they were before but nobody else did. You made a meme about it, people disagreed with you. Then bam you went off and now everybody avoids talking to you and you have to keep changing your name yet still can't help but go off on people and give yourself away from time to time. Finally I understand the method to your madness. I don't know what to tell you other than good luck with that whole sitch dude. You ever stop to think that when people like you have multiple accounts it hurts new users? Everybody is on guard because they don't know at first if they are talking to a real new user or not. I know having more than one account is manipulating the system but I fail to see how making friends is. Things in life are always evolving into something new, you either adapt to it or get left behind. I'd like to say it was nice talking to you but that might imply I wanted to again. I was curious about why you were so angry and I believe I know enough about it now. So long and thanks for the fish!

I have to agree with Jying. All that cussing in one conversation coming from you does make you seem like an idiot...

So you can chew me out and cuss me up and down but if I make a meme making fun of you I'm the bad guy. Must be nice in this world you live in, don't reply dude whatev's I never asked you to follow John over here and attack me in the first place. For somebody who thinks everybody else is trying to censor people they don't like. You sure do have a problem when somebody makes fun of you don't ya? Those memes aren't cussing you out or calling you names, in fact your name or who you are isn't even mentioned. Oh well I'll let you get back to your fantasy where everybody who disagree's with you is some evil villain and you're the hero fighting for injustice hahaha!

Yaaawn lets check back in.. yup still the same ol one trick pony routine going on over here...

That's just it every user I interact with on here leader board or not I have never seen attack people, not once not ever. If anything they have done nothing but impress upon me the need not to attack people. Nobody has ever come to me and been like, I don't like this guy downvote him and attack him. You use that blanket statement of top users all the time and it makes you sound jealous of them. If I'd seen anything like what you are referring to that would be different but it just isn't true.

If you've seen times when I comment positively on a meme without upvoting it, that's unintentional on my part. I like upvoting memes in general.

I only purposely comment on a meme without upvoting it when I disagree with what the meme is saying and am trying to present the opposite side in a comment.

Hold on now, let me make sure I have this correctly. You truly believe that the top users on this site are manipulating things in order to keep other people down? Like we have some sort of advantage over other people that we didn't earn somehow? So I suppose your suggestions on how to fix the site have something to do with your memes always being at the front of the latest stream then? You are looking at it all wrong dude seriously. The only advantage anybody may or may not have around here is from their interactions with other people. If you are seen attacking people's friends then of course they are going to stand up for each other. For some reason you think you can come here and be rude to everybody and have that not effect how your memes do. I can't believe you have the nerve to bad mouth Socrates of all people really? The guy that does more for new users than anybody even comes close to around here? The same person that will use his own submissions to feature memes from the latest stream people may have missed? The same exact guy that commented on your own front page meme most likely helping it reach that status in the first place, you mean that Socrates... really? Honestly it doesn't matter if you make the best memes in the history of meme making. This site requires you to have basic social skills as well. When I started out as a "nobody" all 6 months or so ago the same people you are attacking. Are the exact same ones that gave me advice and support. So you can say whatever you want to try and turn me against them but I know better. Why do you think I'm even bothering to interact with you? These are my friends you are badmouthing and I know for a fact they don't go around attacking people. I can't even begin to contemplate how big your ego must be for you to think about this site the way you do. It's like you think because you say something it should be law and everybody else either agree's with you or gets bombarded with cuss words and lame insults. I don't not like you, I feel nothing at all when it comes to you. I am not fond of the way you talk to people and your attitude in general. That's part of life and getting angry about it doesn't change anything. I say this stuff but I know I'm wasting my time, you aren't going to listen to me or anybody else for that matter. You change user names but that isn't what you should be changing. You need to learn how to deal with people that don't agree with you without becoming so upset.

You are simply an amazing individual lmao! So you are this upset over one upvote? I guess since you never take the time to go comment on memes positively you wouldn't know how easy it is to forget one now and then. Usually the person replies back to your comment so you visit the meme multiple times and catch it anyway. That's how comments help people dude, they draw attention to your meme. Which is what he took the time to do for you, which is more time consuming than a simple upvote and can help a lot more. You really don't know how this all works do you? Whatever I was bored with this conversation this morning and now it's getting redundant. You keep saying you want to improve the site but I think you just want to make it all about you. I don't know if your mother didn't hug you enough or what but you are one angry dude. I'm sure your life has been filled with all sorts of rejection because of it and now you've convinced yourself it's everybody else that has the problem. You need more help then I could ever give you, have you ever thought of seeking counseling? I'm optimistic that with a little help that in maybe a couple years with the right therapist, possibly some medication even you might make some progress. Who knows eventually you may be able to venture out and become a decent member of society. I know it all can seem so unreachable and overwhelming for you but I think you can do it buddy! Some day I know you could get on a website, not get the response you wanted, just get over it, and maybe possibly move on and get over it. I know I might sound crazy but I believe in ya fella you can do it, just please make an appointment today and get started on your way to recovery!

So you don't appreciate other's comments if it doesn't equal more upvotes for you? What a narcissist. You don't suggest improvements, you just state that the community is a bunch of ass kissers in those memes. That is the difference between yours and other's "suggestion" submissions. Your loathing gets in your way every time, which is why you are on your fifth (maybe more?) account while most of us are on our original. Dude, at some point if you are fighting everyone all the time, you have to ask yourself, if you are indeed the problem?

I can't deny your first-hand experience, but I don't know why that would have happened (positive comment without an upvote). That doesn't seem like the norm for me.

I'm a top user and I dont do anything like that. I mean sure the delete comments thing would be nice because every once and a while, a user posts a comment in one of my memes that I am too young to see. I think its fine if some one decides to disagree. I don't really care...

I haven't downvoted or flagged anything on this page or any other for that matter. People have a right to say what they want while others have the right to downvote or flag it if they wish. You made the decision to name call and use vulgarity, that's simply the effect of your cause. I don't remember everything because it wasn't important to me. I never check out that guys memes since he doesn't like me either. It's weird how you say he recruited others to attack you since when he attacked me not a single person came to his defense. I don't handle things like you do however, I don't react with emotion I react with logic "even if I have a small IQ." I seriously doubt Raydog feels threatened by any user or even multiple ones. He gets attacked more than anybody on here and I see his point. I personally believe if you want a comment gone it should be a flag situation. I don't worry about that kind of stuff because it doesn't effect me. I do like things to be fair and even as much as possible which is why alt accounts bother me if anything does. The fact that one persons opinion could mean more here than another's since they can vote more than once isn't right. Plus it makes people hesitant to talk to new users because you just never know who is who around here. A lot of them are used for trolling. Like with the group of my little pony fans on here. They make their own stream that people only can see if they click on a link. So you know ahead of time you are going to see a bunch of mlp memes. This guy goes there purposely just to attack them with multiple accounts for no other reason than he enjoy's being rude. I don't believe anybody that disagree's with someone is a troll, I do believe there is a right and a wrong way to disagree though. There are plenty of ways to make your point without being rude about it, Raydog is one of the best at responding to these type of comments, I've never seen him be rude to anybody first hand. So I simply can't agree with you on that one at all. I don't think you are a troll I just think you lose your temper easily. Doesn't make you a bad person it just makes it hard for you to make your point and even harder for people to want to listen to you. We have very different opinions about this site and the people on it. That doesn't mean I hate you and am going to downvote you every chance I get. I respect my friends due to their actions and will continue to do so unless they somehow give me a reason not to. That will never change..

Here, I'll show you just how much I give a f**k about the memes I make....It's history, just like that. It was only a topic for discussion...there is no way in hell they were gonna do that anyway....it was a meme dude,...nothing more, you take this shit way too seriously man...I just don't get it...but it's ok, I've said it once, I'll say it again...that is your right... but as far as the meme goes, it served it's purpose, and that was to get feedback from all the other users that cared to comment on it and for the mods to see that feedback...I did not attack any users that disagreed with me and I welcomed all their opinions...the mods won't do anything about it, but if they do, now they have multiple ideas to consider...there was no need to attack anyone, and I didn't....as a matter of fact, the only attack was your attack on me, and that didn't even warrant a response. And I'm sure your response this won't warrant one either.

You will never have anyone's respect as long as you keep trying to convince people that you are the victim...then attack anyone that disagrees with you...the more we keep you talking, the more people see you for what you REALLY are...so by all means, keep name calling, keep cussing because as long as you keep doing that...NOONE will ever take you seriously...and you can keep calling me all the names you can think of, it hurts you more than me and anyone that knows me on this site, knows you're full of shit. But good luck trying to turn people against me...let me know how that works out for you, I'm sure I'll be to busy to notice.

People call me out all the time dude...they accuse me of shit all the time...do I give a shit? No I do not...when are you gonna understand that NOTHING ANYONE says on the Internet means shit...that includes YOU and MYSELF. Once you get that, you'll be a much happier person. Unless you live for the arguement. Then I can understand why you hang around.

Nobody is ruining your experience on this site but you Buddy...once a crybaby always a crybaby I guess...you know, in the time it took you to become the laughing stock of imgflip...I became the #1 user on imgdlip ...seems to me that you could've done something more productive with the last 8 months...I sure did.

Back then, I was one of the few people that up voted your flame war comments for you...I just did it anonymously...but now I see you deserve everything you get...I still don't downvote you...you've definitely got enough people doing that for you...but what right do I have you ask? I have the same freedoms and rights you do...the one thing I DO have that you never will tho'...is RESPECT...i'm done talking to you...your nonstop whining is getting boring. Peace.