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god's love is conditional

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0 ups, 1d,
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Been looking for decades but still can’t find the word “unconditional” in the BuyBull.
0 ups, 1d,
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That's funny, because I can't find the word "bisexual" either. Yet there are similar words which essentially mean the same thing.

Also, in case you didn't know, the bible wasn't written in English so we had to translate it as best as we could.
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Really????? You mean Middle Eastern goat herding shamans didn’t speak modern day English 2000-3000 years ago???? Wow! For the record, the English you hear in Sunday School wasn’t spoken just 300 years ago. Virtually no one (excepting scholars in the field) couldn’t even read the original King James BuyBull today.

In the case of “unconditional“, God‘s love (as evidenced in multiple passages) is extremely conditional.

Former seminary grad, preacher, and missionary turned atheist here.

Fun fact:

The King James version of the New Testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England yet it is revered as the “Authorized Version.” There were (and still are) NO original texts to translate. Apologists, please read that again. There were and still are, NO original texts for the 8 members of the Church of England to translate.

The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 pieces of these old manuscripts, some the size of your thumbnail, with no two alike. The King James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead, they edited previous translations to create a version their king and Parliament would approve.

Even “modern” translations of the Bible predominantly use the KJV, the Latin Vulgate, and the Greek Septuagint as well as their preferred doctrinal meanings on different passages. All, 100%, of ALL translations of ANYTHING, are interpretations. In Spanish for example, te quiero can mean I want you, I like you, or I love you depending on the context. But we don’t always have the context from documents that are 1500 years old written by anonymous authors under unknown circumstances for unknown reasons in a culture that you don’t really understand.

So, 21st Century Christians believe the "Word of God" is a book edited in the 17th Century from 16th Century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century scrolls and thumbnail size fragments or parchment that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century and earlier.

That's not faith. That's insanity.
1 up, 11h,
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I'm an atheist as well, I think I might have interpreted your comment wrong. I thought you were saying my meme wasn't valid because the bible didn't specifically mention the words I used.

This was based on my limited knowledge of Christianity (I'm 17 and have been in Christian schooling and church all my life) I haven't professionally studied it but I've heard from Christians that god is love or god loves all sinners no matter what.

I was implying that god's love is not unconditional because I put it in quotation marks. (His "unconditional;" love disappearing because I am not heterosexual)
0 ups, 10h
It’s all good. Your meme IS valid. I was being a little sarcastic and if we’d been sitting together, I’d have been laughing with you and made sure you knew I thought the same way.

I’m one of the weirdest atheists though — very politically conservative but where it concerns personal freedom and choices (like sexual preferences) I think governments (and churches) should shut their mouths. I also don’t trust anyone in power — clergy, politicians, media pundits, big tech …
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Well, pick your gods, pick your commandments, I guess.
1 up, 11h,
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Atheism is better.
0 ups, 8h
Atheism certainly satisfies Occam's Razor.
0 ups, 2w,
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God loves you no matter what.
1 up, 2w,
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Then why would he send anyone to hell to be tortured for eternity? Even if you think about it, infinite torture cannot be a reasonable punishment for a finite crime. Why does it make sense to torture someone for eternity because they exercise their free will?
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He doesn’t want you to be tortured for eternity. That is why he sent Jesus to die and be the covering of your sins, big and small. We all can go to Heaven; it’s just not everyone wants to turn their ways.
1 up, 2w,
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Why should I be punished for exercising my free will? Why should god punish me because I don't recognize his existence? Why does god own me and my life?
0 ups, 2w,
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Because he made you. Without God we wouldn’t exist. Agree to disagree
1 up, 2w,
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I agree to disagree. I'm cool if you're Christian, but I currently don't see myself as one.
0 ups, 2w,
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And hey! That’s okay! I am fine with not everyone agreeing with me, just like anyone else should!
1 up, 2w
I used to be Christian but I just don't think there's enough proof to convince me. But yeah, agree to disagree.
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To make up for this little argument, let’s trade upvotes, 10/10
0 ups, 2w
Sure lol
0 ups, 2w
Hate the sin, love the sinner.
1 up, 3d
Bisexuality isn't something that needs to be covered or atoned for. To quote the Bible: "So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them." One can certainly argue that it is only respectful of this male and female God to see the divinity and beauty in both (and in in-between states).
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