[The future of IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS hangs in the balance!]

Yes I caught IG applying today's new Stream Rule to others, reversing it for his own content.

imgflip.com/i/5hwyub#com13323760

I removed his Moderator role from the stream until we can get this corruption addressed and the new (poorly crafted) rule imgflip.com/i/5hvyaa sorted out.

I don’t have access to the mod logs here, but I don’t doubt what you say is true. And an astute observation. If it is, it’s evidence of mod abuse that should be pointed out, put into a meme and potentially brought before Congress if you wanted to.

However!

I believe unilaterally unmodding IG and deleting several of his comments was acting with a heavy hand in the context of this roleplay and bound to provoke the reaction we saw.

This is a tricky stream to mod, no doubt. But unless serious abuses (like site TOS abuses) are occurring, I believe the owner ought to leave the interpretation and enforcement of laws to the elected government.

I certainly disagree with the LGBTQ NSFW law. That’s not how we mod the LGBTQ stream — marking all the memes in the stream NSFW would be burdensome and silly and wrong for its userbase. I disagree with the idea that sexuality topics (without sexual content or curse words) are inherently NSFW. If I were in Congress, I would have voted against the law.

But I’m not in Congress. And the decision to mark sexuality-related content NSFW doesn’t strike me as a big enough deal to cause a rift. Don’t like it? Run for government and change the law!

Absent your intervention, perhaps no one here would have ever been astute enough to discover that IG was marking his own memes SFW when they arguably should have NSFW. If there are no enterprising “lawyers” monitoring the stream for such things. Or perhaps they are and they would have found it. After all, whether a meme is marked SFW is publicly available information (although who did the marking isn’t - you have to see the mod logs to know).

And perhaps that would have been okay, either way.

Jsyk (new acronym) he only wanted Lgbtq content with sex or curse in it to be NSFW, not everything Lgbtq

Well okay — I do agree with that, if that’s all he meant. But I did see templates by SuGaS marked NSFW even though it only contained a reference to the concept of “bisexuality.”

The thing is, SuGaS didn’t seem to mind and I think they are actually generally supportive of IG. So I do think much more is being made of this than it should.

I'm the corrupt one? You sure are one to talk. You targeted me by deleting my comments based on a non-existent rule, refused to apologise for your mistake and instead blamed it on me, and now you're surprised when a bunch of us protest this hypocritical autocratic dictatorship. I'm not backing down and letting the people of this stream suffer under your oppression. They are voting to remove Envoy as we speak, although I doubt you'll respect their decision, which is why I'm making ImgflipGovernment in the first place.

And submit this to ImgflipGovernment too.

Too busy to have the common courtesy to upvote the pages you comment on?

Plus if that was a "common courtesy" I'd have a lot more points right now.

You have no right to lecture me on courtesy after all you've done here.

Happy to help this stream and the Community at large, some stuff all users can see and some other stuff only the sitewide Moderators can see. Good thing the moderation logs are an open book.

"Here to help"? Within a few days of you being owner there's been a large defection to a different stream because everyone's got so fed up after you came to a bizarre conclusion about a pretty straightforward law that absolutely literally nobody else had trouble understanding. You deleted four of my comments (and nobody else's) over a non-existent law (and never even apologised for your mistake). And after that major blunder that went completely unpunished you felt the need to remove my mod rights for the evil crime of...clicking a NSFW button? And I thought Envoy was a bad mod. You're a new low, which is saying something believe me because the stream is literally voting to remove him as owner. But you've managed to advance Envoy's legacy of being a trash owner by causing a secession. Yeah, great job Andrew I'm sure you're very proud of likely going down in history as the worst IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS owner we've ever had the misfortune of being oppressed by.

You cheated on the new "non-existent law" that you announced here; imgflip.com/i/5hw3l2 , you got caught fudging application of the law by you on your own content, that's why I removed your Moderator role.

I'm not oppressing the stream, I'm liberating the stream from your corrupt misdeeds that benefit you.

Whatever you want to tell yourself. Nobody's falling for your lies except maybe you assuming you've managed to delude yourself with your own deceitfulness, which I wouldn't exactly put past you.

The Book is open for the Stream Mods and Stream Owners and you cant hide the truth:

imgflip.com/moderations?stream=IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS

Approval History of memes you marked NSFW:

imgflip.com/i/5hw8ln

imgflip.com/i/5hvkp6

imgflip.com/i/5hvkp6

and reversed NSFW for your own memes

imgflip.com/i/5hw3l2

imgflip.com/i/5hvyaa

The book is indeed open, and the people shall see that you deleted four of my comments for no reason. You can't hide the truth, you hypocritical tyrant.

Those comments were all sexual in nature and NSFW and against the (poorly worded) new law you pushed through. No timers or bans were issued.

I stopped deleting those comments as soon as you contacted me, presumably you wanted to explain the "all content" provision: 5hwc85.jpg (click to show)

It isn't NSFW because it has nothing to do with it except being the vote and results for it and doesn't have curse or bex in it

If you are referring to IG's images, they werent NSFW under the new law until the law was passed, until IG started marking other user's content NSFW.

What part of "IMAGES CONTAINING ALL REFERENCES TO SEXUALITY LIKE LGBT" and "MARK ALL LGBT CONTENT NSFW" do you not understand? LGBT Is clearly referred to and is content within IG's images.

He literally did

No matter what happens I will never back down and allow the good people of this fantastic community to suffer and be oppressed by the corrupt autocratic dictatorship that is IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS. AndrewFinlayson's worsening of the tensions sparked by Envoy's malpractice seems to have been the tipping point. Now the thread holding this stream together has finally snapped.