Your response is exactly what I expected - pure tribalism dressed up as a mic drop.
Focus kid: who I voted for changes nothing about the topic. You’re bringing it up not because it’s relevant, but because it’s easier to attack me than engage with the argument.
Even if 60% of Christians voted for Trump, that doesn’t make it morally or spiritually sound Christianity isn’t a popularity contest. The question isn’t how many supported him but why they justify it by framing him as a divine choice despite his behavior contradicting Christian teachings. If you’re “done with me” because I didn’t take the bait, you'll have proven my point by mistaking your dismissal for a strong rebuttal.
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Let’s go back to the original topic: an image of Trump with the caption “GOD GAVE US BACK OUR VOICE THROUGH THIS MAN” alongside an electoral map. The real issue isn’t about who I did or didn’t vote for—it’s about whether Trump genuinely reflects the values Christians claim to uphold. The narrative that Trump is some kind of divine vessel for Christian values falls apart under serious scrutiny. Claiming God “gave us back our voice” through Trump while ignoring his pride, deceit, and divisive actions feels less like a spiritual revelation and more like an attempt to retrofit faith into political convenience.
Now, you keep asking me who I voted for, but let’s be honest—that changes nothing about Trump. Even if I told you, unless my vote was for Trump, you’d likely dismiss my perspective as irrelevant. And if I did vote for Trump, you’d call me a hypocrite for criticizing him now. I could say I voted for Cornel West, Jill Stein, Chase Oliver, Claudia De La Cruz, Kamela Harris, The Boogeyman, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, or didn’t vote at all—but the only reason you want that information is to pivot away from Trump and attack my position instead of addressing the actual topic.
That’s deflection, not dialogue.
You say Christians aren’t obligated to vote for leaders who align perfectly with their faith. True—but when Christians celebrate a leader as “God’s chosen” while excusing his behavior that openly contradicts biblical teachings, that’s where the hypocrisy comes in. Voting for him as a “lesser evil” is one thing; sanctifying his actions as divinely inspired is another entirely.
If you want to argue that Trump is effective at implementing policies you support, fine. But don’t pretend that makes him the moral or spiritual leader Christians are called to rally behind. That’s not biblical—it’s just political expediency wrapped in religious language.
So let’s drop the distractions. This discussion isn’t about my vote, Biden’s flaws, or Harris’ hypothetical presidency. It’s about whether Christians can justify glorifying Trump as a “God-given” leader while ignoring the glaring contradictions in his character and actions.
If you want to engage with that, I’m happy to continue. If you just want to keep moving the goalposts, then maybe it’s time to admit you’re not interested in the question at hand.
5. “You can’t see the evils in the opposition’s policies...” (what part about "this is about Trump" do you not get?)
What I see is a lot of pivoting. The criticism isn’t that Trump isn’t “squeaky clean”; it’s that his behavior and values are often antithetical to the Christian principles his supporters claim to hold. Voting for him despite his flaws is one thing. Trying to frame it as a spiritually sound decision, while ignoring his lack of repentance, humility, or fruits of the Spirit? That’s where the hypocrisy lives.
You’re also conveniently ignoring that Jesus didn’t advocate for “lesser evil” politics. He called us to stand for righteousness, period. If supporting someone tarnishes the very values we’re supposed to embody, that’s a problem—one Christians should acknowledge, not excuse.
Final Point
You can vote for Trump because you think he’s the best option politically. That’s your prerogative. But trying to moralize it as the “Christian” choice while ignoring his blatant contradictions to Christian teaching? That’s the issue here. You don’t have to like Harris or Biden to admit that Trump isn’t a paragon of biblical values. Own the compromise, instead of spiritualizing it with vague parallels and deflections.
First off, calling it “dialogue” doesn’t make it less of a deflection when you’re dumping a laundry list of grievances unrelated to the original topic. That’s like someone asking, “How does Trump align with Christian values?” and you responding, “Well, Biden isn’t perfect either, and here’s 37 reasons why I’m upset with modern politics.” It’s not a conversation- it’s verbal hopscotch.
Let’s break your queries/complaints point by point:
1. “Non-answer. Not surprising.”
No, it’s a refusal to let you steer the discussion off the cliff of irrelevance. You keep demanding I outline my preferred candidate or critique Kamala Harris. Nice try, but my personal preferences don’t negate the hypocrisy of Christian voters supporting Trump. That’s the topic, not Biden, Harris, or whether my vote matches your expectations.
2. “Christians are not obligated to vote for non-Christian leaders...”
Sure, we have to live in the real world and make hard choices. No one’s arguing that. But when those choices include a candidate who actively embodies pride, deceit, and selfishness—things Christians are supposed to oppose—you don’t get to wrap that in biblical justification without addressing the dissonance. It’s one thing to say, “I voted for Trump because I think he’ll deliver results.” It’s another to claim some divine parallel to King Cyrus or pretend it’s totally fine to overlook behavior that contradicts biblical teachings just because you like his policies.
3. “Isaiah 45 went completely over your head.”
Nope, I understand the Cyrus comparison. The problem is using it as a spiritual hall pass for Trump’s lack of integrity. Cyrus fulfilled a specific role in a specific historical context, and while God can use anyone for His purposes, that’s not the same as endorsing their behavior. Cyrus didn’t walk around claiming divine favor while flaunting actions contrary to God’s principles. Trump, however, courts Christian voters by posturing as one of them while openly contradicting the values he claims to represent. See the difference?
4. “Leaders are judged by effectiveness, not fruits.”
Oh, so now we’re cherry-picking scripture? Matthew 7:16 applies to recognizing anyone’s alignment with God’s will, not just prophets. If you’re invoking Cyrus to argue Trump is being used by God, then yes, his actions should reflect Godly fruits like humility, truth, and justice. If not, your argument is just vibes with no accountability.
First, let’s not forget this is the #Christian stream, not #politics #conservatives or #Real_Politics. Here, our moral compass is rooted in the Bible, and Trump doesn’t align with that compass in any meaningful way. Period.
Now, let’s address the gymnastics you’re doing to throw this off-topic. You’re using a lot of whataboutism and hypotheticals to deflect from the core issue: why Christian voters are supporting someone who fundamentally contradicts Christian values.
You claim Trump isn’t running a church, so his personal character doesn’t matter. But that argument falls apart when Christian voters tout his leadership as somehow divinely inspired. If you’re going to invoke God or defend his actions through a biblical lens, then his actions and character _absolutely_ matter. The Bible is clear on this: leaders are judged by their fruits (Matthew 7:16), and the fruits we’ve seen are pride, division, deceit, and self-interest. Those aren’t exactly Spirit-approved attributes.
As for your list of tangents, here’s the deal:
1) My vote? This isn’t about me. Classic deflection. My voting record doesn’t make Trump’s behavior any less contradictory to Christian teachings.
2) Your laundry list of issues? Immigration, abortion, pacifism, reparations - nice try at derailing. But we’re talking about Trump’s alignment with Christian values, not a buffet of political hot topics.
3) “Christian” country? America isn’t a theocracy, but Christians voting as though it is while backing a leader who opposes their core teachings is hypocrisy.
Let’s also address this laughable double standard: you’re bending over backward to dismiss Trump’s sins as irrelevant, but demanding receipts and citations for Biden’s repentance and humility. You can’t excuse one leader while holding another to an impossible standard. If you’re judging Trump purely on his effectiveness and not his morality, fine - just stop trying to frame it as some kind of godly endorsement. Own the hypocrisy.
To bring it back to the core point: Christian voters choosing Trump isn’t just inconsistent; it’s counter to our own values. If you can’t reconcile that, don’t blame others for pointing it out.
