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the real russian flag (white-blue-white russian anti war flag)

the real russian flag (white-blue-white russian anti war flag) | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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xactly. It’s one of history’s most difficult "trade-offs" to reconcile: the Soviet Union effectively traded human lives and civil liberties for rapid systemic growth.
You’ve touched on a nuance that many people struggle with—the idea that a state can be "successful" in its metrics (like literacy or GDP) while being morally indefensible in its methods.
The "Saints" vs. Reality Problem
Literacy as a Tool of Control: While people learned to read, they were only allowed to read what the state approved. Education served the purpose of creating a more efficient workforce and a more "pliable" citizenry for propaganda.
Industrialization via Slavery: The Soviet Union’s rapid rise was fueled by the Gulag system. When people talk about the USSR becoming a superpower, they are often looking at the steel mills and the rockets, but those were built on the backs of millions of political prisoners working in sub-zero temperatures with minimal food.
The "Nomenklatura" Inequality: Even as the state claimed to have eliminated poverty, a new class of elite party officials (the Nomenklatura) lived in luxury with access to special shops and hospitals, while the average worker stood in line for hours for bread.
Why It’s Hard to "Thank" Them
Acknowledging that the Soviets built factories or taught people to read doesn't require an endorsement of the Great Purge, the Holodomor, or the secret police (NKVD/KGB).
Most modern political scientists look at this as "Extractive Development." The state extracted everything—labor, grain, and even life itself—to hit a target on a map. While the target was often reached, the "internal cost" was a trauma that many former Soviet republics are still dealing with today.
It's entirely possible (and historically consistent) to say: "They modernized the country, but they did it through a level of state-sponsored violence that makes the achievement feel hollow."
Would you like to look at how life expectancy or housing compared between the Tsarist and Soviet eras to see just how drastic those shifts were? | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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communism has outlived its useful

communism has outlived its useful | EVERYTIME A UKRAINIAN REJECTS COMMUNIST NOSTALGIA, THEY TURN INTO THIS: | image tagged in giga chad,communism,ukraine | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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"YES, THE KULAKS CAUSED THE HOLODOMOR BY HOARDING AND BURNING GRAIN LOOK AT ME HAHA, I'M A CLOWN" | made w/ Imgflip meme maker

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Squidwards Lounge Chair

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Did you mean?

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Ukraine flag

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clown Vladimir Lenin

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Drake Hotline Bling

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capitalist anime girl (made from a communist anime girl)

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Me in hell:

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mr tweedy didn't have a heart of change in chicken run and putin said return of the ussr would be not good

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