OMG is so exclusionary.

I know that but never really got that, as God has a name, whether it be Yahweh or Jehovah or from another language. I used to get spanked for oh my gosh. Isn't God more like a title or description?

I thought 'gosh' had no definition. Plus, 'Jehovah', in my opinion, should be pronounced like 'Yahweh' as Middle East to European languages developed more and more letters as time went by. Take Latin for example. Latin used 'V' to make a 'U' or 'W' (double-u) while it used 'I' to make a 'J' or 'Y' sound. That's why you still hear the word 'ja' as in 'you' and 'vat' as in 'what'.

'Gosh' can also mean 'surprise' (I looked it up).
I'm not a Canadian or a US citizen, so 'gosh' doesn't necessarily mean 'a milder (euphemistic) way of saying 'God' to me.

Well, they shouldn't use that phrase. Some still do. I get your point though.

You see what I did there?
Also, 'interjection' could've replaced 'exclamation'.

OMS, you're so right! Let's talk more about this in Science Sunday School where we will learn the world is cooling, no warming, no changing...whatever! Something bad that only taxation can solve is happening.

OMS you're right!

Science is no friend to atheists.

It's my belief that science reveals the creativity of an omniscient God.

But it is a friend to satanists :)

No it's not.

proof?

Well, define friend

Friend as in useful tool. Define satanist

Science isn't a useful tool to Satanists (Satanist: a person who admires Satan and/or sees him as an inspiration) because it can't keep them out of Hell. Whatever they do with science doesn't make much difference to their eternal well-being.

Nope. Satanism is a self worshipping religion. Similar to atheism... but not the same. We see our selves and fellow humans as gods.

Very interesting... who made humans?

Theres different branches of satanism. Some believe humans were created last thursday. Others believe in evolution

I think I'd be more prone to agree with the last Thursday ones..

I see. I believe humans weren't created from anything or any concept and just popped into space and time

It's easier to believe in God.

not exactly

"It's easier to believe in god". Religion in a nutshell

Paganism (and Wiccan) believes that there is both a Goddess and God.

Nobody comes to the conclusion that God doesn't exist because of reason or science. Reason and science don't go in that direction.

No. You didn't.

One fedora just got BTFO

This isn't even debatable. The rule "No one can tell anyone else what they believe or why" doesn't apply here, since the real question is not your beliefs, but reason and science, and those are everyone's domain.

There is no reason and science that proves that God doesn't exist, so what you've described in your comment isn't even logically possible. It's an incoherent claim, like someone claiming to have seen a triangle with four sides.

If you think you came to the conclusion that God doesn't exist by reason and science, you're simply wrong about that. You need to change your mind about it and not make that claim in the future.

He's just saying that we're being dishonest by saying that without backing himself up. Another argument of his is that deep down we know that God is real. He can't say any of that because he's never been an atheist.

All atheists that I know concluded that God doesn't exist because of reason and/or science. Scratch that, nobody can conclude anything. Nobody can prove anything, so we all just use reason. Unless you were born before 1970, in that case, WTF IS REASON?!?!

No, they didn't. They might have said so to you, but you have no grounds to believe such a claim.

There is no line of reasoning that proves that God does not exist, and there's no scientific evidence that establishes that God doesn't exist either.

You speak to atheists about their beliefs way less than I do, I know for a fact that's what they believe. There may be no evidence or proof that anything doesn't exist, but there is logic and reasoning (which link to science a lot of the time) and you must admit there is no proof or evidence of a God either. The Bible was written by dozens of people over the course of 1,500 years, so that cannot be used as evidence. Theists and atheists are equally matched. No one can prove or disprove one another. It's down to logic, and even if one were to win an argument with logic it still wouldn't prove or disprove a God, so this is pretty much pointless. But thanks, your influence has changed my thinking.

You can't have it both ways. Your comment above shows that you know that your atheist friends are dishonest about the motives for their belief. You said, "there may be no evidence or proof that anything doesn't exist." In the case of God, this is a true statement. By acknowledging that, you've acknowledged that there's no possibility of reason or science that could disprove God's existence.

That's why I said that nobody comes to the conclusion that God doesn't exist based on reason or science.

Please don't be dishonest. You wrote, "All atheists that I know concluded that God doesn't exist because of reason and/or science."

Okay, I won't be dishonest. All atheists that I know cloncluded that God doesn't exist because of reason and/or science. Scratch that. Nobody has or can concluded anything. I'm being honest, honestly.

It is often their argument all the same. After reading comments, memes etc on this subject for several months,.. it seems some that claim to be an "atheist", often have different interpretations of that, almost like Christians disagreeing on salvation. Some who claim to be an atheist, often make comments that lean more toward just being agnostic. There are those who politely disagree with a Creator, and some almost attack Christians for their beliefs. The subject always generates comments. I'm just not a fan of the anti-God comments that cherry pick bible verses in an effort to discredit Gods love, plans, or knowledge.

OMA, that's funny!

Nope - science's role in atheism isn't that of God in theism but I doubt you were under that impression. ;) I'm going to start using "Oh my Nietzsche" now though, in an ironic vein. :P

Haha, count on Bill to run with "OMS". I'm sure he uses BCE instead of BC, too.

I bet you're right! I saw someone (I don't remember who it was) comment one time: "The two rules of Atheism are #1 There is no God and #2 I hate Him." Haha. So true!

That's clever. In a similar vein, I've always wondered how Satanists function. I mean, if you believe in Satan, then you have to believe in God. Why would you follow the bad one?

-Satanists believe that God can't be all good and Satan can't be all bad.
-They believe in making "bad" things "good."
-They believe that Satan is trying to promote individuality

On a more negative note, a few of them believe in black magic, alchemy, witch craft, ect.

No...

#1 God is unlikely to exist, but you must be open to other's thoughts #2 Don't discriminate against theists

Not all atheists hate god, so those rules are only 50% percent true :)