Jesus Cross

That's awesome.

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crosses don't kill people, romans kill people

But your meme says "the cross that would kill him"

That's such a gay thing to say. It's like saying guns don't kill people, people kill people. Don't get me wrong I'm a supporter of gun rights, I just think its a stupid phrase because it's literally the gun that is killing the person. Theoretically, the person could not kill without the gun.
It's the same thing with the whole cross thing. Also, the reason the cross is such a symbol to us christians is not because Christ died on it, its the reason he died on it.

"such a gay thing to say"

[slow clap]

just saying that gay means happy, so: "Thats such a happy thing to say."

Let me ask you something, does the gun think to kill the person? Answer: No. Does the person with the gun think to kill the person? Answer: Yes. A person who wants to kill someone could use a knife, their hands, etc.

all I was talking about was definitions...

*fast clap

Oh, ok then. ;) LOL

It is a symbol that Jesus can conquer anything.

God deserves to be praised for his amazing mercy in sending his Son to die for sinful people.

If, according to Paul in Romans, "The power of sin is the law" and the law was given by your god, then the sins you reference were the result of your god's own actions. God never had to create a law, yet he did. Some say it was to show his mercy and grace because he knew man would sin against that same law. If that's the case, your god is little more than an attention seeking narcissist that creates the conditions for a house fire, then takes credit for putting it out ... we call that arson. Yet Christians praise their god for saving them from the very sin he created (creating the perfect conditions for it to exist). And if your god died on a cross to pay for the sins of the world, sending anyone to hell would be punishing those same sins twice, no? Is unbelief a sin? Did he die for my unbelief? If so, isn't that my ticket to heaven since my sins were "died for?"

Thanks for the diatribe! I have decided to become an angry athiest due to your persuasive argument.

This is what I just saw.

Christian: lol dude God is awesome
Atheist: GVCFGHBVFGDFGJKHCTUKGYFGHFRTFGDFDRYTGFDDTFGHIOUYFUHGVCFDGTHJTHJGDYGHGYFTRFDFOIUDIUHGCXFSDGGCNGHIOUJTYHGNBDTOUIHUGFDFGIOHFGDCKUOYGFDYTUKLI:HGHTKYKGFXJRIUHGXHGDJTHIUHGCHYHVCHJTRYTUIOHXJRHYUOYHJTYKUJGFTYUKYUHTDGUHBCSDFIUSRTUHJGFDRYHFGUH<D%UYDSFI&UVCSDTYJUGFDFI%UYGDFSYTJUI^%TRDTRRTFUYKHFDGIKYJGCSDFGHJUTFJHI&^YTFDHGTFHVFGHTGFCJTRTYU%Y^TFDXGFJKUYTFCGJIO^TDFUGKYUYTFDFGHJKUYFDXCVB MKUIGJCHKIOL*TGDBXCXFYGUIYJGCXFHGTYGVCTYFGHTJHVTJCRHTYGTUJCHGJHBVCHRHFJGCUTFCBHRUGJHFSUIJBVGCDYUHVCXTRYYGCFGJTKRDSHDGFHYTREJSDXCVGYFJG VFKTYUGCVBXDFARSETYYFDSTUGFHJXNHG>LYTFGJM<HTYOIFGCVHGUTFDXV¸?FSKRU^IFC

I don't know, I praised Allah like 420 times last night wile I was smoking Portland and gassing Jews

Then you didn't read or comprehend anything. Can't help you there.

Correctamundo señior

I understand what you're saying but look at it like this. Who created Adam & Eve? Who created their propensity to sin? If I load up a house with natural gas vapors and set a mechanism that ignites a spark when the front door is opened, who is responsible for the house blowing up? Is it the person who opens the door and sets off the igniter or the person who loaded up the house with explosives and created the ignition mechanism? The person who opens the door does so of their own free will ...

Did God create sin? What does Proverbs 16:4 say? Either God created all things or he didn't. He certainly created the environment for it to flourish.

As far as the unbelief argument, it sounds like the work of Jesus on the cross was worthless. If he did indeed pay the penalty for sin, yet God still punishes US for sin, then he's extracting double punishment. But when you're God, I guess you can do that. Either Jesus paid for your sin at the cross or he didn't. If he did, yet you still get sent to hell for unbelief, then there's double punishment. If that's true, how can anyone be assured that their salvation is real since God may not be satisfied with Jesus' payment.

Also, FWIW, the word "accept" is no where in the Bible. No one in the Bible ever "accepted" Christ as their Savior -- that's a relatively modern day invention courtesy of Charles Finney who believed HE could force revival by using emotional appeals. He even gave instructional seminars to other preachers on how to do it. Seems it worked because that's been all the rage since the mid 1800's.

I hate to say this tekbarrier, but CorpExecutive has a point. God's control over all events is supreme. Nobody can use their "free will" to choose a course of action that thwarts God.

I think where I would probably differ from him/her is putting the guilt of sinful acts at God's door. God is morally pure, and we are not in a position to be able to judge his decisions, since we are not omniscient (as he is). He makes decisions with the benefit of considering information we can't even comprehend or imagine.

Thanks so much for saying something though! It's not often that I've seen an unbeliever defend a believer (at least not in internet discussions).

And hopefully your comment will help CorpExecutive see that the points he/she raises are not a "quick shutdown" of Christianity. There are a lot of difficult issues in considering the problem of God and evil. Just pointing out that a particular worldview or religion brings up some difficulties to think about is not a refutation of that religion.

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Amen!

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One is the only way to God, Krishna is one out of a million other false gods that lead to hell. Choose wisely

What evidence have you checked out and discarded (due to its insufficiency) please?

AAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!

AMEN (to Chov)