Am I The Only One Around Here

i've always liked carson.
the most bizarre thing about current politics and society today is the unswerving loyalty of liberals towards islamics. either they don't know their patsies or their hatred for the bible and christians blinds them
either way, the muslims will have no use for them, once in power. check any country where islam is the majority.

You don't have an objective vantage point from which to make that evaluation.

IMHO.. to reference a few laws from one book of the bible is kind of "cherry picking". References to the book of Leviticus is probably the most used in the gay marriage controversy no matter which side one may lean. But in that same book are laws that reference how one should not treat parents.. or lay with animals as well. The old testament also contains the foundation of our laws today.. killing, stealing, etc. You make a great point though.

Punishment is not universal.. nor is the judicial process that determines guilt or innocence. That's the biggest difference.

Im not sure what the point is here. No one, Muslim or otherwise is advocating for sharia law to be implemented. Sharia Law is not any more compatible with the constitution than laws in the Bible are. Nobody is running around saying we shouldnt have a Christian or Jew in the White House because the Bible clearly states Divorce is against God's Will. This is just religious fear being spread to terrify the public into fear. Because fear lets you do things you wouldnt be able to get away with otherwise.

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Show me where? Surely this would be all over the place if it was actually happening. This has been clearly debunked by many reputable organizations. Here is a link to the fact finding NON Political, NON Partisan Website Snopes, which if you cant use that then you are clearly too far out there: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp
Oh and they also link where FOX NEWS issued its apology and correction for spreading this garbage, but I guess nobody took notice of that.
Your welcome :)

You used snopes? You should really use a reliable source.. other than a website run by 2 libs who have been caught posting biased info many times. It appears you missed what was in the news.. and what the message of the meme is. Ben Carson responded to a media question, by saying Sharia is not compatible with the US constitution.Then he caught crap for it in the media. As you can see by the comments, many agree w/his initial statement. That's it. That's the only message in the meme. There is no hidden message.. it is face value based on an actual event. Thanks for taking the time to look and comment. I will be looking for your memes to do the same. I gave you an upvote for taking time to research.. even though SNOPES is not on my list to trust or reference.

I wasnt aware that Snopes had any biased publishing but I digress. Out of curiosity what source would you find acceptable that is not left wing or right wing biased? I have surprisingly found that you cant even link anything anymore because the retort is always "thats a biased source so it cant be true" no matter what source you use.

Im glad you responded because that was my initial post as well. I read that Mr. Carson stated that because the teachings in sharia are things like muslims must be loyal only to their god, rules on what women cant do, the pillars of Islam etc...
If this is the case, which I understand that to be true so please clarify if otherwise, here is my point with that.
Why is Christianity any different? The Bible says very similar things, it states you must be loyal to God and only God. It condones slavery, stoning, restrictions for females, restrictions on food we can eat, divorce etc... how is that different?

Sorry I meant allows slavery, etc...
So to boil it down, the Bible is not compatible with the Constitution either yes?

Most laws are real overly universal in all religious books... aside from sacrificial stuff etc in ancient text. However.. the biggest difference in Islam and christianity, as it pertains to more modern laws.. is the judicial process, tolerance, and punishment. Islam continues to carry out punishments that modern christians do not.. ie. Cutting off heads, hands, stonings, etc. The judicial process is mostly "accusatory".. and guilt is just assumed. This is where sharia and our Constitution would greatly conflict. IMHO... of course. Thanks for your time to comment.. it's very respected and appreciated.. even if we differ on some issues. I am open to other perspectives. ; |

While we have certainly seen that with the radical muslims, I dont believe that all Muslims or even most Muslims purport that. In Islamic countries like Kuwait, UAE and Turkey they have more traditional judicial systems.
If one says that Muslims behave like that, its not so different then saying KKK and other radical christian groups that burn down churches, hang and murder people act on behalf of Christians everywhere.

I lived in the mideast for 3 years.. i know what is accurate and not. I witnessed a lot..

I cant imagine.... However I also cant imagine that my muslim friends that were born here, fought for this country and that I personally know, should never be allowed the chance to be president or do whatever their american dream is, as Mr. Carson is opposed to.

Your friends are lucky to have you as a friend. .

Snopes is not the "ultimate reference".. and I agree with you that no website is. I research several before arriving at any conclusion.. as a reference to snopes at times being biased and who runs it..
http://accuracyinpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/05/snopes-got-snoped.html?m=1

Somebody is living in an alternate universe
Muslims in America are using sharia at every opportunity. Honor killings, beheadings, etc are happening now. Dearborn, Michigan is an islamic republic where non muslims have reduced constitutional rights. the local police refuse to enforce the first amendment for street preachers. documented. If a muslim will be honest with you, he'll tell you implementation of sharia is core to islam, not an option. Sharia in the US is not an imaginary threat.
The US main stream media has played "gotcha" with several of the christian candidates in this presidential race including Rick Perry and Ben Carson.
Prohibition of divorce is a Roman Catholic tenet, not Bible Christianity. Divorce is permitted in both testaments.

Prove it please. I spent over 3 hours the other night looking for the BS you are spewing. Nothing. Zip. Only hoaxes. Show me a article from a reputable source that says any of what you are saying. This is all fear mongering. In fact your documented statement is full of lies of course. What really happened: "Local authorities required the pastors to post a $45,000 "peace bond" to cover Dearborn's cost if Jones incited violence or caused damage (LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY IN THE US WHEN ASKING FOR A LARGE PROTEST). The city reduced the required amount to the posting of a $1 "peace bond", but Jones and his co-pastor Wayne Sapp continued to refuse to pay." So this is what you get, inciters who think if they dont follow the law and then have to post a $1 bond but still think they are better than anyone else, then they are having their rights impeded. RIIIIGGGGHHHHTTT. The worst part, not only did any Muslims NOT have anything to do with that, but police actually prevented any COUNTER PROTESTORS against Jones's own protest. Which means they allowed him to protest but not anyone on the muslim's side to protest.
Your statements are full of slanderous, incorrect, ridiculous nonsense, but what can one expect when you call a bacon eating, church going, beer drinking, gambling, church position holder since 14 man a Muslim. hahahahahahahahaha.
And oh yeah, nice to see you didnt respond to why the laws in Islam are different to the laws of Christianity and why a Cathlioc president should have abolished Divorce since thats against the Bible and God's Teaching.
Keep drinking that CRAZY KoolAid!!!

I'd give you a 40K icon for your reply if I could. The uninformed make noise with nothing but cherry picked references.

It isn't.

what isn't?

Sharia Law isn't compatible with the Constitution.

agreed. Carson has been pointing out two truths that the mainstream media can't stand: a: Obama is a muslim, not a christian. b: sharia is absolutely incompatible with the constitution. Carson's candor on these issues makes their head explode because he (and Allen B. West) don't fit well into their script at all. they're black, and they're right.

I'm not very politically savvy, but it troubles me that people seem do not seem to want to recognise that Islam is a dangerous threat to any other political system besides itself.

It troubles me that people seem do not seem to want to recognise that Islam is a threat to any other political system besides itself.

Sharia is rooted in Arab tribalism. Tribalism isn't compatible with civilization.