I couldn't be more sarcastic with this one...

There are actually fossils that almost prove it 100%

Evolution exists, and there's nothing wrong with certain animals being more likely to survive than others, but you should realize some stories in the bible are fantasized depictions of what really happened. Sure, The Lord would have power to make every thing exist in an instant, but as scientists have shown, that's probably not what happened. I think it's probable that the "big bang" was something slimier to how The Lord has made the universe.

Sorry, but how can you not believe in evolution at all?
My father had once an experiment with a male and female fruit fly.
He bred the flies with the largest heads, and left the small heads to die...
In this environment, the flies with largest heads, in this case, where the "fittest."
Generation by generation the flies with the larger heads evolved and developed ginormous heads. Evolution proved, no fossils needed.

That's selective breeding. It's sometimes called forced evolution but that doesn't prove evolution as a theory. Evolution also can't be proven because in order to do so you would need to be able to observe for millions of years at a time. Which is impossibru! Also, because we can't observe that long, the isotopes used in dating can't be confirmed to have a constant half life. People seem to forget how science works. lol

You want to know why I don't though? Look at the skeletons of "ancestral" species compared to current living creatures. The Dorudon for example is just a Beluga Whale skeleton. But they sure as hell claim it to be an ancestor. Sells more books/lectures that way. :)

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No, you creationists are crazy! Evolution happens ALL THE TIME. We have children, and they inherit our characteristics. We reproduce because we have traits that allow us to survive, and if the environment suddenly allowed us to die off, but, say, a man was born with an otherwise useless mutation that allowed him to survive and he had children and they had the same mutation, which allowed them, in turn, to survive and reproduce. That's evolution. It's not a monkey magically transforming into a man, but you creationists create a straw man argument by saying it is so you can strut around victoriously. Even outside of this hypothetical situation, you know selective breeding? Well, it happens similarly in nature. That's why we're taller today then we were in, say, 1745 or 1633. I could go on explaining for years...

Yes but our children don't change into fish, or zebras. They inherit genes from two parents. 2 different sets of genes, making them look different.
Oh, and evolutionists have no sound theory explaining the beginning of the universe.

Of course. Duh. We aren't descended from zebras, and such evolutionary regression that would make our children look ANYTHING LIKE fish at all would be almost impossible (about a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, and that's only an estimate). Idiot. Oh, and did you know that the theories that explain the origins of the universe and the theory of evolution are two separate theories? Idiot. And did you know that they are constantly observing the stars just to prove or disprove various hypotheses about the origin of the universe, whereas you creationists are just sittting around saying "I don't know, and I'm too lazy to actually try to find out, so I'm just going to automatically assume that god did it, and if there's a widely accepted contradictory theory, I'm just gonna deny it using the scant evidence I have and some logic that best works trying to debunk something else." You know, whether you're a christian or an atheist, or even if you're an agnostic like me, you have to eventually start with something coming from nothing. It's just a question of whether god came from nothing then created everything else or the universe just suddenly exploded in a cloud of something before eventually forming into the world we see today, or whether some other thing happened. Sadly, we'll never know until we find out, and people like you aren't doing anything to help.

So, you think it's more likely that the endless (as far as we know) universe just popped into existence, from nowhere. Magically.

No. I think that we should investigate and get all the evidence before we begin stating half-thought out hypotheses as facts.

But how can we investigate the beginning of time? Oh wait, YOU CAN'T. A nearly endless universe=nearly endless matter. Where did all that matter come from?

Well, actually, did you know that if you look into space, you're looking back in time? It takes hundreds, thousands, millions, even billions of years for light to reach us from all those distant stars, and thus, you see, we CAN investigate the beginning of time. As you said "It stinks to know how many people deny the truth".

We (Creationists) believe God created a mature universe. Meaning He created grown plants, animals, and of course, humans. He made it so that the light was already there. But you still haven't said where the matter and swirling gasses came from. Is matter eternal? If so entropy would've worn it all out. Things would become worse, not better after all that time.

Oh, sure. Makes sense. The world was created just before I was born, and people like you were created with memories and personalities implanted in their minds to make my life hard.

Oh, we're crazy? Says the opposing theology.

Inheriting traits isn't proof of "evolution", just proof of heredity.

lol we reproduce to keep our species alive. Not because we have traits that are better than previous species.

If that were the case every animal today would be extremely resilient.

You can never prove scientifically that Humans cam from apes through observation and experimentation, SO you have to make faith based speculations to make YOUR THEOLOGY MATCH.

" but you creationists create a straw man argument by saying it is so you can strut around victoriously"

That's ALL YOU and YOUR THEOLOGY kid.

I'm all about the truth. And you can't handle it baby. The TRUTH is: that evolution can't be scientifically proven through observation and experimentation. YOU and all the other evolutionists can't stand the truth in that.

"Even outside of this hypothetical situation, you know selective breeding? "

And now you show how you didn't bother reading the comments before jumping in. Kudos on that crazy kid.

"That's why we're taller today then we were in, say, 1745 or 1633. I could go on explaining for years..."

That's because you don't go far enough back or include a wide enough array of human heights in that figure.

Modern humans know only what we can observe and test. Period.

And we can't time travel. So... :{

OMFG you're trying to blame God for our free will now?

You never read the Bible did you?

God gave us free will so that we had to CHOOSE good or evil.

God only favors those that choose good. IE Salvation.

And the evil have their souls destroyed. Cutting a corrupt branch off of a tree.

Do you blame your parents for YOUR mistakes or bad events that happen to YOU?

Hopefully not. But the same goes for God. You don't blame the creator for things that HUMANS do.

And why should/would life be 100% perfect and harm free? There'd be no point other than to eat, drink, and sleep, rinse and repeat.

Conflict is necessary for us to CHOOSE to be good.

" It isn't necessary that life on earth all share a common ancestor for evolution to work "

But that is literally the theory of evolution, that we all came from a source organism. Shrews for mammals and single celled organism at the beginning.

Evolution is a faith based theology PUSHED by atheists and secularists. THAT'S IT.

Look at Dorudon's skeleton, a supposed whale ancestor, and look at an extant Beluga whale skeleton. It's the same animal. One skeleton is just older.

And the "scientists" pushing evolution are just trying to make a name for themselves by selling lectures and books. AND, if they're atheists, they get to denounce God and religion too.

It's a concerted effort to destroy monotheism essentially. And if hey can do that, our God-given rights can be stripped. That's why evolution came out AFTER the birth of the US and its Constitution.

This is something you as a believer in evolution, need to research MORE.

You're blindly accepting it as true because a white lab coat said it is.

Do the research and be OBJECTIVE about it. And then you'll start to see. And even if you didn't believe in God, you should still know that evolution is basically another form of religion. :{

So true. God loves all equally, and He wants us to come to repentance. Like you said, without problems, we would never feel like we need God. He would just be some guy and we "wouldn't need Him". So we would think cause our lives would be just fine. We probably wouldn't think about eternity.

Look, it's just logic. God could NOT control everything, if he could then we would be unable to have free will. It may sound like nonsense to you but it's logic to me.

Now another point. I'm bad at explaining things. Always have been, probably always will be, but I'll try to explain evolution to you as simply as possible.

Question One: Heredity exists, right? (this is a rhetorical question)
Question Two: Natural selection (survival of the fittest) occurs, right?
Question Three: Mutations happen, right?
Question Four: If natural selection occurs, would it not weed out the harmful mutations if mutations happen?
Question Five: If harmful mutations are weeded out, this would leave only harmless and even helpful mutations, right?
Question Six: If heredity exists, would it not allow these helpful mutations to be inherited?
Question Seven: If these helpful mutations are inherited, would it not be possible that they'd change the appearance of a species over time, perhaps even making a new species?

If you answered all of these questions "yes", you pretty much said that evolution is real. If you answered any of these questions "no", then I think that you should know that it has been observed in nature, though this may be just that "'scientists' pushing evolution are just trying to make a name for themselves by selling lectures and books", as you put it, though Darwin WAS actually a christian, I must point out.

There is no "book of Enoch" in the Bible.

I'm not one for citing single verses out of context.

Read the Book of Jude. I believe it's the book before Revelation and it's fairly short. Jude mentions verses from the Book of Enoch. But you'd need to read the Book of Enoch to know that Jude was paraphrasing it.

And you didn't answer my question. What proof do you have that it isn't inspired by God? If you can't answer that, than you're being misled by someone telling you that the apocrypha isn't inspired.

But, if you are going to claim to be a Christian, and not be able to google and research this yourself on your own whims, you're not really a Christian dude.

I'd suggest you watch some of Apocryphile 1970's vids on Youtube. He actually goes into detail on how and why the apocrypha is inspired. And how and why it was suppressed from people by a corrupted church.

He also has a lot of the texts in audio form with read along text. And yes, I've checked to make sure he was reading THOSE texts and not his own words. :{

I didn't say the Book Of Enoch was in the Bible.

But the apocryphal texts are still as important. :{

Well...
The Apocrypha isn't inspired by God, but the Bible is.

lol Shows that you don't research anything.

Yes, the Apocryphal texts are inspired by God. Who said they weren't? Seriously, who told you that bullshit?

Jude and other Disciples reference them several times in the Bible. And they studied the texts and revered them. So why not you and anyone else professing to be a Christian?

Do you know what the Council of Nicaea was about and why?

Do you know that Constantine was a pagan who paganized Christianity?

If you can't do the research or see how and why the apocryphal texts were left out of the Bible, you're lost. :{

What's your proof that the Apocrypha was inspired by God?

What's your proof that it isn't?

And like I said, the Disciples and Messiah revered those books, so should you if you claim you're Christian. :{

Can you tell me a verse for that? If not... :{

Im not going down this rabbit hole with you, its just not worth trying to prove a nut like you wrong

Actually it's because you can't prove it :l

Prove god, fossils hold more proof than a 2000 year old book

who says The Lord didn't make fossils?

6000. 6000 year old Word of God. The flood probably happened 5000+ years ago, explaining the old fossils.

The matter isn't whether God exists though, it's that evolution IS false. You've been lied to and your too gullible to research your own opinion. :l

I want to take the path with the most evidence, if it wasnt evolution, what was it?

We need to focus on finding answers that can be proven though.

And the thing about there being a cure for cancer already is exactly what you did by believing evolution. You jumped to a conclusion without proof.

It does make sense that the medical industry would make more money treating people who have cancer instead of curing it, but the flip side is, how many people would it take to keep it quiet? And for how long could it be kept quiet? Etc. But again, that's all speculation and not science.

Evolution is fake. Look up a dorudon skeleton. Then look up a beluga whale. Then rinse and repeat with all other "ancestral species" until you see how many are fake as opposed to how many are legitimately extinct creatures like a dodo. :l

That isn't science. Which is apart of my point. We can't prove anything we come up with when it involves events that far in the past. Why don't evolutionists actually contribute to society by working in an actual scientific field? We need a cure for cancer or better space propulsion, not speculations on what might have happened. :l

I agree on that front, but think of it this way. Humans are curious creatures, it is just part of our nature to try to find answers. And are you really convinced that there is no cure for cancer? Think of the money that is made treating cancer rather than just curing it. Its just like with big oil companies, they could just fix the problem, but thTs less profit. Greed runs the planet