Religion isn't the problem, humanity is the problem.

Religion isn't the problem, humanity is the problem. | SO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE... THAT IF WE RID THE WORLD OF RELIGION, WE'D HAVE PEACE AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T USE SOME OTHER REASON AS AN EXCUSE TO K | image tagged in memes,frustrated boromir | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Ancient Aliens Meme | THE HUMANITY ISN'T THE PROBLEM ALIENS ARE | image tagged in memes,ancient aliens | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Our victory's assured! Hail Chuck Norris!
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I think lack of respect for those who are different is humanity's problem. We don't need to ban any religion, we just need to exert more effort in respecting others.
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Both of you get it. I whole heartedly agree.
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Sorry this came way too late.
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Nicely Said :D
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No Problem you deserve it :D you should quote this shit and put it in a textbook
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-sasquatchlivesmatter
Word's of wisdom 2015
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Christianity and Islam aren't that bat without any human followers.
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Word amen
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I agree with this but Christians have also tried to get rid of other religions. They've given a bad reputation to Satanism because it's their culture to be against it.
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Yeah, those Christian suicide bombers are all over the news ... flying planes into buildings, beheading people right and left ... threatening the existence of an entire country.
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I know right, all them Christians trying to take hold of the middle east killing all non Christians and making them convert...
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Hail satan!5
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The reason would at least be associated with logic and reason rather than some Nazi priest telling you what to do.
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I just came here to read the comments
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Then your "tl;dr" reply to my comment makes absolutely no sense, you paradoxical little rascal.
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Of course not, but it'd be one less excuse to hide behind and one less way to brainwash folks. Besides, I just want to see people educated properly so they can think rationally for themselves. Religion should then die out as a result, just like any other superstition and a lot of environmentally stimulated prejudices. That's the real problem here: lack of rational, critical thinking, which results in superstitious beliefs. Religion is one.
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Seriously? Religious people can't think critically? Religious people aren't educated? I love it when people read a bunch of hyperbole on the Internet and then use that to further an argument. I'd be more than willing to bet that the number of uneducated atheists and agnostics is per capita about the same as those who are religious.
Did you know that the man who first proposed the theory of the expansion of the universe, what we now know as the Big Bang theory, was a Roman Catholic priest?
The problem isn't lack of education, the problem is hatred. Disagreeing with one side and so automatically belittling that side to make yourself superior, regardless of what actual facts may be.
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Crusades?????
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So, he shot people during mass?
Maybe he's a messed up Catholic?
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If I was told to choose who was smarter out of a guy who backs his arguments up with facts and a guy who believes in a book with magic in it then i would always choose the former.
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Who?
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He means the meme makers duh
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Have you ever heard of atheistic beliefs?
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Nope, this comment section is weird. Both arguments are getting upvotes except for the people who are blatantly discriminating.
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Of course you can, if you don't mind being a hypocrite. (which you shouldn't, God knows I'm a hypocrite about lots of things)
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I refer you to my comment above. Your comment exposes your bias that anyone who believes in the bible or other religious text is unintelligent.
If I was told to choose who was smarter, I would research both men and make my own unbiased conclusions, regardless of what their theological beliefs were.
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If you were told those bits of information and you had to chose there and then what would you do.
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I couldn't decide who was more intelligent in that case. Saying one guy is religious and one guy isn't, decide who is smarter, is no less prejudicial than asking who's smarter if one guy is black and on guy is white.
Like I say, religion doesn't diminish intelligence. Some of the greatest scientific minds of our time have been religious people, including the Belgian priest who first postulated the theory of the expansion of the universe.
Yes, I'm religious. Yes, evolution is fact, and so is the Big Bang.
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I never said any of them were religious i just said the latter guy believed in magic like fairy tails, magicians, wizards etc
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Facts? Sorry, the Big Bang and Evolution won't be fact until they've been observed. That means studied in the present, not looking at old bones and saying the animal they came form must have evolved.
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But looking at several old bones and comparing them and noticing that they have changed slightly over generation is fact.

The Big Bang is scientists best guess though.
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"But looking at several old bones and comparing them and noticing that they have changed slightly over generation is fact."
Scientists aren't noticing they changed slightly over generations: Scientists are noticing there are some structural similarities between different animals. I can just as easily say God designed all life so it's no surprise some different organisms have a similar design.
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You can say that but can you prove it?
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Nope. Neither evolutionists nor I can prove what they/I believe. The difference between a lot of evolutionists and me is the fact that I don't claim to have proof.
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This should be in a textbook or some shit like that
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Exactly, bullying plain and simple
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Did I actually say any of that?
I'm sure there are religious people who would be labeled "smart" by most or are even much more intelligent than I am on a certain subject matter, but I'm also sure you'll lose that bet. Of course there are moronic atheists, people who are just following an idol or trend. What I'm saying is that there's a negative correlation between intelligence and religion (there are studies corroborating this claim and it's also my overwhelming personal experience within academia). The problem isn't that these people can't think logically or critically about something, it's that they lose all of their logical intellect as soon as the subject goes anywhere near their religious beliefs. And that's a BIG problem.
Of course I know Lemaître, the man who first proposed the idea of an expanding universe, was part priest. Being a Belgian physicist myself, he’s part of my national history as well as my educational background. I assume you’ve just heard that “the guy who proposed the Big Bang Theory was a priest” - that’s usually the case anyway, I apologize if it isn’t. In any case you shouldn’t use that argument, since firstly a single case makes for horrible statistics, especially when I can name dozens of his contemporaries who made equally large contributions to science but were not religious. Secondly, many natural philosophers in the “earlier” days of science were actually men of the Church, because those were the people with the best access to knowledge and sufficient free time and money to take up the hobby. Although Lemaître was part of a generation when science was starting to become a viable job to earn a living off (mind you, even Feynman still had financial trouble in the beginning of his career), a religious title was still very much required to become a professor at the University of Leuven. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t actually religious, obviously, but he was definitely also a product of his time. How many priests are at the frontiers of science today?
Lack of education undoubtedly IS the big problem. Hatred is a problem as well, but it’s an effect of uneducated views and should diminish with increased levels of education, since this implies increased understanding, and it's much more difficult to hate something you have a deep, thorough, nuanced understanding of.
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No, I've heard of George Lemaitre. And I agree, citing one guy is not the best case for an argument. But this isn't really and ideal forum for having a long debate on whether or not people who are religious are also intellectually deficient.
However, I would also point out that I use the George Lemaitre argument when I debate those who deny evolution and/ or the Big Bang theory.
However, the point of the original meme wasn't about the relative intelligence of religious vs. non religious. The point was that humanity would and has found plenty of reasons to kill each other that have nothing to do with religion. Nor does it have to do with intelligence. Plenty of intelligent people have started wars.
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Lemaître might be a nice example to point to in discussions with those people, but my experience is that it's useless to have religious discussions with them anyway.
I agree that this isn't the best forum for such a discussion and I definitely agree that people will find other rationalizations to harm each other. But I do contend that religion has been and still is a stimulus and cause of harm, and that intelligence is negatively correlated with religiosity. To avoid further misunderstandings, let me clarify what correlation means: it means that on average (!) less intelligent people tend (!) to be more religious. It does not mean that every religious person is stupid or indeed, that every stupid person is religious.
I would also contend that no truly intelligent person has ever started a ridiculous war - but since that requires one to tighten the definition of intelligence, you can forget about that statement and leave it at "I agree wars have been started for silly things other than religious disputes - in fact many religious wars were also (!) heavily politically, personally or economically tainted". However, I reiterate: if there were no religion, that would be at least one less thing to use as a reason, or excuse, to wage war. Of course, wars are not the only harmful effects of religion on people and society (just think of the whole condoms in Africa debacle).
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tl;dr
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Good for you kid.
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You'd be dead wrong and making a fool of yourself.
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Oh dear, you're making it worse and you don't even know it. Let me stop you before you embarrass yourself any further. Pretty much every religion in existence has claimed Einstein was one of them, the same situation is found for many celebrities of the past (as if their beliefs somehow determine the truth or falsehood of religious claims and individual critical thinking is unnecessary - just follow this or that person). A concise video disproving these claims is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEK6WtHxNfw . I hope you will now leave dear old Albert alone and stop abusing his name and these persistent lies about his religious belief for your own benefit.
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XD If that's your idea of what it's like when someone is pissed off, you must think the whole world is absolutely besides themselves all the time. :P
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No they're not. The happy and contented just aren't newsworthy. Now, why don't you try commenting without a meme? They make you seem sloganistic and incapable of well thought-out and well formulated ideas, and capable only of intellectually questionable and predictable one-liners designed to get you cheers, which I hope isn't true.
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Actually, Einstein wasn't Christian. He was Jewish.
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religon is the opiate of the masses, not it's beserker stalf
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Exactly what I've been saying.
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one less...
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Proof?
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Please go back to school. They did nothing of that, mein kampf was his auto biography not his bible
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No, they did not. Nazis were christians.
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Nontheism, not atheist. The bible has corrupted that head of yours
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Excellent. Link to proof please.
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Careful with those links. Imgflip mods don't toler8 em
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Ok infidel
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Thats my proof
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Someone downvoted that :/
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These statements of yours don't even comply with the memes, and by most historians im pretty sure you meant the super christian ones.
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Look son a 5 year olds comeback
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Ms. Angry pants
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Lmfao, you are just downvoting my comments because you have no better response.
What is this? Imgflip or Know your meme?

Also you know that wikipedia can be corrupted, right?
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Kittie said she wouldnt tell anyone
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North Korea = Best Korea
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^This
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Good luck with that, they'd shoot a fly if it looked like it was coming anywhere near them.
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