Creationist here. Just admit it. PLEASE.

I guess it that's one way of putting it. Think about it, He said, "Let there be light..." And BANG! There it was. :-)

I am so happy someone else gets it. Both are valid arguments, but neither are perfect.

I'd say Creationism is perfect (I'm admittedly biased), but it isn't scientifically sound. God creating time and the universe can't be explained by science.

Just because something isn't proven by science doesn't mean it isn't true. And while I am a creationist, I don't claim out augment to be prefect. It is however, incredibly more likely then the other options.

What do other religions think happened to create the world. I mean, ones that actually still exist today(Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, etc.).

Islam's account of creation is very similar to the one in the Bible since they are both Abrahamic religions.

Hinduism and Buddhism don't have an explanation as far as I know. Islam, Christianity, and Jewish beliefs all recount the same story.

What is your reason for asking?

Just wondering. It seems like the religion/atheism debate only seems to focus on Christianity, like that's the only alternative there is. They only mention Islam when they want to say things like "This is all religion's fault!", they seem to think that Judaism is the same thing as Christianity by only paying attention to the Old Testament, and they act like Hinduism and Buddhism don't even exist. Seriously, there's more than two religions in the world!

Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "perfect", but yeah. Well said.

Well, the Bible says God spoke the world into existence, so yeah, I guess that would be a Big Bang in a sense.

What i am talking about is that why people think that Creationists and Evolutionists are the same....

They're not the same, but they both cannot prove their position. The similarity generally ends there.

Evolution can be proven. Fossil evidence, and logical biology. Your DNA are from your parents however about 5 or 10% of your DNA come from no where. That 5% is basicly how you dont look like your mom and dad became a hybrid. Evolution is where that 5% becomes bigger and changes the body. Like how early humans were apelike and now we look more "Human" and less animal/apelike. However on god, we just have to rely on historical records to actually prove it

Fossil evidence? An animal's bones looking like two different animals doesn't mean one of those animals came fore the other one. Archeopteryx had teeth, but so do some hummingbirds. BTW, note the word "evidence". You are correct in not using the word "proof". Kudos on that.
DNA doesn't come from nowhere. Your body cannot create new DNA, it simply mixes DNA from your ancestors, and I don't mean the people who lived a long time ago; your parents are also your ancestors, unless I'm using the wrong term. All the DNA in your body came from humans who lived before you did. "New" DNA is probably just DNA that is different from that of your close relatives.

which makes more sense:
a magical big guy created himself out of nowhere, popped a perfect world out of existence with a talking snake to see their sins by eating a sinner fruit, and then he watches over every form of human life and has a book that he decides if you go to a magical place in the clouds, or to burn in a never ending hellfire for eternity. and plus he loves all of us and made everyone, and everything is planned no matter what.
OR
A small piece of massive amounts of energy eventually collapsed on itself and tons of chunks of rocks randomly flew around crashing into eachother, and after billions upon billions of years they eventually formed their own gravity based on the mass altogether, and soon cells copied and manipulated on planets to make vegetation, and humans soon after.
let me give you a hint: one has science and evidence behind it.

Both are scientifically absurd.
1. No one observed the Big Bang.
2. Evolution is supposedly too slow to be observable over a short period of time. Finding bones in the ground doesn't prove your theories.
3. The entire universe could fit into a period, with many, many times more energy than it has now? Yep. That sure makes perfect sense, all right.
4. An object needs to have a significant amount of mass to have a gravitational field. The Big Bang would have thrown matter out in every direction. The matter would be going at an incredible amount of speed, meaning the it would thin out as it traveled away from the explosion. The mass would all be too spread out to pull other mass in.
5. Organic cells have never been observed to have evolved from inorganic cells. Rocks don't become plants.
6. Where did the mass, energy, and compressing force come from to crush the entire universe into a tiny dot? Matter and energy cannot be eternal, and they cannot be created. You're being absurd because you're claiming to have science backing up your beliefs, yet science contradicts your beliefs. I believe God is not bound by science. He set up the laws of physics, and he's outside of them. That's not scientifically possible, but at least I'm not going around claiming it is.
7. If matter and energy are eternal, then matter has had eternity to use up energy. There shouldn't be any energy still usable.

What's "TL;DR" mean?

Too Long; Didn't Read

That's understandable. :)

just cause no one observed the big bang doesn't mean it didn't exist. You didn't observe the formation of the earth, yet it clearly exists. Then again, there are a lot of things we don't know about evolution.

You just made a mistake: the Big Bang is an event that supposedly happened a long time ago. The earth is an object that is currently existing. You're talking about something you've never seen and something you cannot observe. I'm talking about something I HAVE seen and CAN observe. Big difference there, pal.

so by your logic the ice ages might not have existed?

I dont think that what he is saying, he is saying we did nit see it happen snd there is no hard proof. There is, however, hard proof of the ice age in glacial markings that have covered the earth

I have no clue if the Ice Age existed or not. I'd have to see all the supposed signs of it (I don't doubt it happened, I just don't know much) to render an opinion.

where did those small pieces of massive amounts of energy come from?

Guys, regardless of your individual belief systems, you gotta give mad props to XenusianSoldier for clearly have a firm grasp on the scientific method when making his arguments. Just sayin

Evolution makes no sense. Religion is just nonsense !

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You're absolutely right, and I wish more people (from both groups) would realize this. In the end, creation and evolution are both just theories, with no way to definitively prove either one. And the truth is, until time travel is developed, no one will know for sure which is true. I personally subscribe to evolution, but I've got nothing against creationists, and I'm not going to try to shove my beliefs and theories down their throats.

Yes, I do admit that neither can be prove (yet) but I think that evolution is more likely. What I don't get is how (most) religious people refuse to think that God created animals to evolve.

I believe God created animals and designed the genetic code of everything so that evolution could take place. I also believe that everything that we see, touch, and measure is part of God. In other words, God created himself when he created the Universe. He's not a bearded wise man sitting on a throne in the clouds. He is everything.

I don't hate your opinion, but sometimes it feels like this :P

Well, the reason I don't think God created organisms to evolve is because the Bible says everything was "very good". That doesn't mean perfect, but according to the Bible, God made a universe that was working properly from the get go. I think it would be absurd for a Christian to believe humans evolved from animals, because then that would mean souls evolved. Plus the Bible says God breathed life into man, and he became a living soul, meaning he had a soul from the beginning.
So, I won't call someone stupid for believing evolution. I think evolutionism and creationism can't mix, but I won't berate someone for it. However, I think it's downright moronic to believe God created something that evolved into man. I'm done ranting now. :)

Ok, that makes sense. I don't know the Bible perfectly, so I wouldn't know that. Heck, I don't know that Bible that well at all. Just a bit.

He actually said something like that on the show one time. :D

As a creationist and former evolutionist, I can confirm this