jokes on you im european and hate America

Then we're even, we hate you too.

wtf did we do... actually yeah tbh we did do bad things

we work fine without america gng

Keep telling yourself that.

Lets turn this around huh, see if you like it. Europe doesnt need saving, america does. We have affordable healthcare, less racism, less schoolshootings, a better economy and most of our country's do not have a debt so big its a issue we talk about. So lets save europe first, as europeans, and after that we shall go to america to fix their issues. Our president isnt in the epstein files, so lets also delete all those pedofiles you guys put in charge. And dont start with the whole ''europe is being overthrown by imigrants'' because that isnt even remotely true.

Why argue over which one is better when we are all equally pointless…

While it’s common to hear critiques about modern American life, there are several foundational and practical reasons why the United States remains a significant and purposeful nation:

1. Economic Power and Opportunity
Highest Average Income: Americans enjoy the highest average household income globally, with an impressive income per capita.

2. Unrivaled Career Progression: The U.S. remains a leader in key sectors such as financial services, technology, and healthcare, providing unique opportunities for professional growth.

3. Global Innovation: Historically, the U.S. has been a powerhouse for technological advances, medical cures, and space exploration

1. 10,6% off americans are poor. ofcoure the average number is going to be high when people like elon musk live in america. Billionaires live in america, so talking about an average is unfair. 2% off rich people make up for like 50% of your households.
2. First off all, saying america has a stable healthcare is such a joke, im not even going to talk about it. Technology and financial services, however, is true. But europe has started making different services, and are starting to be more independent because of a certain american president.....

3. the third point is just the second point in a different coat. however, america lacks a lot of things. you guys are living in the past. back then you were a powerhouse, but now you are being overtaken by china, india and even russia in some parts. stop living in your own old glory and wake up. its the traditional and old way of thinking thats ruining america.

The U.S. continues to lead in critical future technologies like artificial intelligence (AI), biotechnology, and space exploration. In 2025, U.S. companies were projected to invest $371 billion in AI infrastructure alone.
World-Class Universities:

More than half of the world's top 50 colleges are located in the United States. These institutions attract global talent and drive nearly $1 trillion in annual research and development spending.

The U.S. remains the world’s leading place to launch a company. More firms went public in the U.S. in 2025 than in the rest of the world combined. Immigrants are 80% more likely to start businesses in the U.S. than native-born citizens, contributing to a dynamic "opportunity culture".

Financial Markets: The U.S. stock market represents roughly 60% of global market capitalization, providing deep and transparent systems for investment and retirement planning.

The AI part:
AI is not america only. the difference is that america makes it public, while russia and china doesnt. Also, AI? Really? We cant even decide if its an upgrade or an downgrade, bc we cant oversee the consequences.

Colleges: You mean those same colleges Trump is cutting funding to. wont be long before you have 0 top colleges.

Companies: True, companies can find some good soil in america, however, factories are more likely to go to china. those companies are worth nothing without production. And right now you guys are kicking out immigrants, so it wont be long before you lose those 80%.

The U S of A will still be thriving long after Europe becomes an Islamic caliphate.

again, zero problems with the islam. they are just like christians, only different buildings and another language. and again, the islam will not take over our country. fun fact, you know you have won an argument when the maga person starts talking about the islam. gang wake up, its all a hoax, to use the words you guys like.

You should realize that if the continents keep hating on each other WW3 will start this decade

Maybe stop hating on Russia then..

but you guys founded nato

Actually, we are exiting NATO

wait what why

Many reasons, but first and foremost:

Financial "Fair Share": A central grievance is that European allies have long "taken advantage" of U.S. military spending. Although allies recently agreed to a new target of 5% of GDP by 2035, the administration continues to pressure countries that do not meet current obligations

Also, international organizations often undermine U.S. independence and waste taxpayer dollars on agendas that do not serve national interests.

And, there is a growing desire to refocus military resources toward the Western Hemisphere and Asia rather than maintaining a massive presence in Europe

Why tf should we, they invade an innocent country just because they're hungry for power, it's political regime is basically 1984, and its propaganda is retarded.

Contradiction: noun
a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.

You complain about queers, apparently because they force sexual ideologies onto minors, while forcing sexual ideologies onto minors yourself. You cannot talk about contradiction.

If you were intelligent, you would avoid making assumptions or misinterpreting my intent.
Touch grass, kid.

but didnt you just make an assumption about him? maybe hop off and touch some grass yourself?

No assumption needed, he stated it himself. Open your eyes, son.

You are not my father, ''son''. and a maga puppet telling me to open my eyes is really f**king funny to me. you guys elected a pedophile as president. open your eyes, son.

"Touch grass" said the basement dweller who spents his time posting politics and sexual content in a stream full of teenagers and complains about how bad the stream is despite him always being able to leave

Valid

If China is so bad and oppressive, they can always just leave, lol.

Yes, they can leave whenever they want too. If they couldn't, there'd be no Chinese transfer students.

The U.S. government is actively revoking visas and increasing deportations of Chinese students, particularly targeting those in STEM fields (science, technology, engineering, mathematics) or with alleged ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) under Proclamation 10043. This policy, enforced by CBP and the State Department, has created a "chilling effect" and significant anxiety among the approximately 280,000+ Chinese students in the USA

This does nothing to address the fact that Chinese people can leave China whenever they want if it's so bad over there. Clearly, they're not leaving the country en masse, so by your logic, the PRC is also a great country.

Yea, that's bullshit, they cannot leave whenever they want without restrictions. Exit is subject to government-issued passports, potential "non-essential" travel bans, and specific bans for civil servants, those involved in legal cases, or individuals deemed a national security risk. Try again.

All of these restrictions also exist in the U.S. btw. Also of course exit is subject to "government-issued passports," does the U.S. not have those apparently? Who else issues these passports?

And last time I checked, even if you take into account all of these "restrictions" (that, again, also exist in the U.S.), they pretty much do not apply to the general population. Last time I checked, most Chinese do not have "non-essential" travel bans, are not civil servants, aren't currently involved in legal cases, and aren't deemed a national security risk. So, the overwhelming majority are free to leave the country if they choose so. And since they don't, according to your logic, the PRC is also a great country.

Also, civil servants *are* allowed to leave China, it's just that there are certain restrictions in place for them doing so. The same goes for the U.S. too.

Try again.

Key Restrictions on Leaving China

Exit Bans: Tens of thousands are estimated to be under bans, covering those involved in criminal investigations, civil disputes, or considered threats to national security.

Targeted Professions: Increased scrutiny is placed on civil servants, doctors, teachers, and employees of state-owned enterprises, often requiring four layers of approval for travel.

Regional Restrictions: Residents in areas with high populations of Uyghurs and Tibetans face severe restrictions, often being unable to obtain passports or leave the country.

"Necessary" Travel Only: The Chinese government has increasingly restricted private travel, often limiting travel for "ordinary" research or study.

Passport Control: The state has tightened passport issuance and, in some cases, required individuals to submit their passports to employers.
National Security Focus: Under the 2020 and 2024 security laws, individuals can be barred from leaving for "collusion with foreign entities" or other broad, vaguely defined offenses

I don’t detest the nation, I just detest the way people have to live in the nation
And the leader.

I’d leave if I could

I may be able to arrange a go fund me page, if money is the issue.

Too young to leave

By all means, as soon as you're of age, make it a priority.

Got it

Let me know if I can help.

It would be my pleasure to initiate a go fund me page and book your one way ticket flight

I like how all of your comments are supposedly getting 3-4 upvotes even now but literally no one is coming to your defense lol.

"Hey man, I really need to win this internet argument but I don't have any valid points. Can I use some alt accounts to upvote my own comments so it looks like people are on my side?"

"Ok sure, just don't make it too obvious."

No doubt, there are many more US of A users of this site than Europeans. Or, it could be Toady, for all I know.

And still these "US of A users" aren't coming to your defense, despite being there to upvote all of your comments

This mf really commented "I may be able to arrange a go fund me page" in response to the possibility of price issues. Sure, let's arrange a go fund me page for millions of Americans who potentially want to leave, I'm sure it will be very logistically practical :)

Even if you're a top #1 America glazer, this makes 0 sense. Imagine saying this in response to any slight criticism of the government, like moving out wouldn't be a gargantuan task and burden in more ways than one, even if you're not accounting for things like cost. Lots of people also live in fuсking shitholes of countries with the option to leave, yet they also stay.

To be fair though, I'd probably say something like this too if someone disliked their country/government and I had absolutely nothing to say to logically counter their argument.

Are you illiterate ? They stated they WANTED to leave. And, my offer was on an INDIVIDUAL basis, not everyone.

The literate to the illiterate is the true illiterate, I guess.

Alright, let me try to explain my point more clearly in hopes that you can grasp it this time. Yes, you offered one particular individual to help with a go fund me so that they could leave if they wanted to. However, this does not address the fact that millions of other Americans might want to leave but cannot, due to the fact that it's expensive as shit. That is where I was getting at. (Side note: Did you know that it costs $2350 to renounce an American passport? That's, like, more expensive than renouncing a passport in general usually should be. So much for letting Americans leave...)

Also, I like how you didn't even try to disprove my other points. You just knew you were full of shit when posting this.

They can cross the border illegally, if they hate it here, just like the immigrants who flooded our nation under the Biden admin.

At many border crossings, there may not be a physical barrier or an agent on the Mexican side checking documents for entry into the immediate border zone.

Now kindly , fk off, I'm trying to watch the Gold medal game

AHA. but if mexicans leave and go to your country, yall crying about immigrants. what are you talking about, son?

Will can fly them to Europe if you'd like. No doubt, they will get along great with your constantly growing Islamic population.

''our constantly growing Islamic population'' boy are you removed from reality. we do not even have a single problem with the islamic population. they arent even that big and growing is not really the words i would give them. we can peacefully co-exist. and before you start about ''terror attacks'' know that we have less terror attacks then you guys have schoolshootings. so yeah, conclusion: we have it better than you guys. deal with it, son.

it's called population replacement. Your Islamic population will outbreed you into extinction. It's only a matter of time.
Europe is experiencing a significant demographic shift defined by fertility rates (1.38–1.46) falling well below the 2.1 replacement level, meaning deaths exceed births.

Get a clue, boy, it's all part of the plan.

bro, they will not. the islamic population doesnt have some kind of replacement plan. they face a lot of discrimination and racism in our country, but they dont hurt a fly. ''outbreeding us'' jesus christ, it almost sounds like you dont view them as humans. and our birth rate declining has nothing to do with the islam. people just do not feel like making children when there are uncertain times. and because of america, its uncertain. and once america either gets its shit together or blows up people will feel safe again and another baby boom will happen.

Yea, as usual, you're wrong.

Projections suggest the Muslim population in Europe will grow due to a combination of higher fertility rates among Muslim immigrants compared to native Europeans, a younger age profile, and continued immigration. While not universal, these demographic trends contribute to a faster population increase relative to the aging, native European population.

Europe's days are numbered, boy.

nope. i dont know why you think you know it better here, while you are on the other side of the ocean. you know its funny, you guys give muslims a very american mindset. you guys think they think american. but they dont, thats the funny part. just because you guys have experience in flooding a country, ''outbreeding'' and killing the natives and taking over the control doesnt mean everyone does that. and no, our country or european country's arent under any threat by the muslims. so you guys do not have to worry about us and can just leave us alone. stay in your own country with your dangerous idea's. we shall happily welcome any american that decides to flee their country because they dont feel like being in pedophile paradise. good luck, son.

Fertility: Muslim women in Europe average 2.6 children compared to 1.6 for non-Muslims.

Age: In 2022, the median age of Muslims was 30.4, 13 years younger than the median for other Europeans (43.8).

Population Shift: While the Muslim population grows, the non-Muslim population in Europe is projected to decline, increasing the relative share of the Muslim community.

It's only a matter of time.

bro, they are not a threat. the muslim community is so small that, ofcourse, it will look like it grows. but europeans wont be ''overtaken''. they arent some kind of demons that try to replace us or anything. and muslims had nothing to do with the earlier points i made. you are just using this as a diversion. id rather be in a country filled with muslims, then a country filled with white supremists and a president thats in the epstein files.

Guh, imgflip political debates always give me cancer. Especially if it's some mf trying to look for an argument in a non-political stream.

Ig I'll just end this with the classic:

Just think, after they illegally cross the border into Mexico, they can sell their organs and become wealthy, unless they fall prey to a
Mexican cartel involved in organ harvesting.

Selling your organs is illegal in the U.S. btw

No shit

Also isn't it insane that the advice you're offering to people who are struggling is "sell your organs," like am I the insane one?