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What do you call someone who uses faulty evidence to lie? | "THEY" FOUND BODIES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RED SEA WHERE EGYPTIAN SOLIDERS WOULD BE AFTER MOSES WALKED THROUGH!
HALLELUHAH! The story claiming human skeletons, chariot wheels, and Egyptian army remains at the bottom of the Red Sea gained traction only through a satirical website (World News Daily Report), not actual archaeology. Investigations found that the alleged “Professor” involved didn’t exist and that the underwater photos of a skull used to support the claim were taken from a 2014 National Geographic article about a skeleton discovered in a flooded Mexican cave. NO. NO, THEY DIDN'T. PURE CHRISTIAN DESPERATION LOL | image tagged in atheist,moses,christian desperation | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
87 views 2 upvotes Made by I-know-what-im-talking-about 1 month ago in atheist
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1 up, 1mo
Read the story here. Its hilarious.
https://phys.org/news/2018-03-false-story-archaeologists-unearth-exodus.html
0 ups, 1w
Skeletons... just look for Ca²⁺ (or any lack of it)
0 ups, 1mo,
1 reply
You're hilarious. Just because people can do really weird things sometimes doesn't mean we're desperate. Did you know that the Great Wall of China actually can't be seen from space? Did this misconception come from desperation? No chance.

I do admit it, there is not sufficient evidence of the Egyptian bodies. I mean, of course there would be no skeletons, they'd be gone already. And it makes sense that the chariots wouldn't be at the bottom of the sea, they've had thousands of years to disappear.
1 up, 4w,
2 replies
And your silly desperation continues ...
1 up, 4w,
1 reply
Look who's talking.

Whether I admitted that was true or not, you would've labeled it desperation.
2 ups, 4w,
2 replies
Religion IS desperation. When faith is your foundation, you can be led to believe ANYTHING and you are proof. I was led that way too, for decades. Then I broke free.

You've claimed there was a "god shaped hole in the human heart" which is hilarious. No. There's not. That's a stupid claim. Humans evolved to detect patterns quickly because false positives were cheaper than false negatives (like mistaking wind for a predator). This tendency produces meaningful connections whether or not they exist objectively. Gods are inferred patterns, not psychological necessities based on an organ that doesn't exist like you think. Closely paired with patternicity is agenticity: the tendency to attribute intention to ambiguous events. Thunder becomes a god’s anger; fortune becomes providence. This explains your religious beliefs without positing a missing metaphysical component in your damaged psyche.

Humans evolved to trust in-group authorities. When beliefs are endorsed by parents, clergy, or communities, skepticism is neurologically and socially costly. I know. I lost my wife and family. She would rather have broken her wedding vows before god than be with someone who didn't believe. Same for my daughter, my son however, is not a believer so we've been able to maintain a good relationship. Weird huh? There's no hate like christian love let me tell you.

Once a religious belief is adopted, contradictory evidence is discounted while supporting anecdotes are amplified. Everyone sees this from psychologists to anthropologists. The religious sometimes see it in other religions but rarely their own. Religious systems are especially effective at insulating beliefs from falsification as excuses are made that defy logic.

Humans typically adopt beliefs first (via emotion, culture, or authority - or all three) and then invent reasons afterward just like you've done. This alone undermines the idea that religion fills an existential vacuum; rather, it exploits normal post-hoc rationalization that you continually use.

If a god-shaped hole existed, religious belief would be uniform around the world. Instead, belief content tracks with geography, family, and social reinforcement and it tracks with precision. This is strong evidence for cultural inheritance, not an innate religious void. This is the RVDT - the Religious Diversity Test - but you test nothing. You just believe ...

Remember, I've been where you are now. But I broke free of those chains. You can't see it.
1 up, 4w,
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Wow. That was a whole essay stating exactly what you think about religion. Brother (and yes, despited not having the same beliefs as me, you are still my brother), I am not going to argue with you on something that is highly dependent on the theological base. Look at your theological base, look at mine. Very different.

It makes sense that your wife and your daughter would break away from you. 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" It's not that the Christian hates you. If anything, Your wife and daughter are smarter than you give them credit for. Solomon lost his faith because he was always surrounded by concubines and wives that weren't Jewish.

Other than that, basically everything you just said applies to Christianity is false. I think I even spy the composition/division fallacy in there.
0 ups, 2w,
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And your typical dumbassery continues. You really are about as stupid as any believer I've ever met. And as gullible. And delusional. Evidence of this: you ignore anything that doesn't match your narrative. Over and over and over ...

Paul specifically instructed wives to NOT leave their unbelieving husbands and your false narrative about being "yoked" had business connotations in the ancient world more than marriage. Besides, that's only one verse and your god specifically said that only out of the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses shall a thing be established.

Everything about your fake modern christianity is man made, and again, your god is between your ears.
0 ups, 6d
well, everybody's gullible to some point - right? prove me wrong, i'd be very glad :D
0 ups, 1w,
1 reply
Bro. I would say, "look who's talking," but, really, what do I achieve from telling you that? Just know that if you ask me, you're the one who's ignoring everything that doesn't match your narrative, not me. When I find something genuinely challenging, I start questioning, asking, logicking. Is the atheist view right? Then I realize after asking for a while, no, there's a pretty clear theistic answer here. So try not to take this as an accusation, I can see that your accusations on my beliefs outrage me. I won't respond in kind, and you should stop trying to outrage people. It just makes them less likely to listen to you. Want me to answer some specific thing you think I'm just ignoring? Then shoot. Go ahead. Maybe I missed it or didn't deem it to be much of an argument, or didn't sense an argument in your claim.

Now for the divorce part. For that, I might ask you this: were you abusive to your wife? Did you make her feel unimportant or did you commit adultery? You do seem to enjoy calling me an idiot, I've gotta say. If so, she'll be a bit more justified than you say.
If not, I'll say she probably shouldn't have done it. I wouldn't be so sure that she was following what God wanted for her, but I hate to judge, that'd be God's job.
0 ups, 1w,
1 reply
When things didn't match my christian narrative, I started doing actual research into whether god existed. The idea didn't match my cognitive bias and I changed my mind. I was raised in christianity, went to christian schools, in church a minimum of 3x per week, went on short term missions trips, led dozens of people to christ, went to college and then seminary, got a masters of divinity, became a full time missionary, came home after 5 years and became a church planter in the Southeastern US. I looked at the evidence and read books my pastor told me NOT to read because they would make me question things even more than I did ... and you know what? I realized I had been deluded my whole life and that all this religion stuff was a stinking pile of bullshit. There is no god, there is no place up in the sky where we will sing to god all the time and eat 12 different fruits from a tree and drink from a crystal river. LOL, apparently there are actual MONTHS in heaven ... Revelation 22:2 “On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month, and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.” Such a crock of utter bullshit.

Did I abuse her? LOL, no. But that's the typical response by most people ... blame the man. Her own pastor and the church elders told her NOT to divorce me. She listened to TikTok and Instagram idiots and did it anyway, telling me that she can do anything because she was "confident in her salvation." Christians are like that - my daughters took her side and cut off all communication, including my grandkids. There's no hate like good ol' christian love. She accused me of adultery AS IS TYPICAL OF WOMEN but she had no proof and that never happened. I worked from home and she could track every movement I made since we were on Life360. My son was living with us at the time so it wasn't like I could bring hookers to the house. My daughter, son-in-law, and granddaughter were also living with us while they built a house. It was in the height of covid and she was angry I didn't take her to Hawaii for our 30th anniversary in June of 2020. Let that sink in.
0 ups, 1w
Two massive paragraphs. Sounds like fun. I can understand some of the things you say better because of your first paragraph.

I had a slightly different upbringing to you, but similar. You see, I too was brought up in a Christian world, and I'd guess that you were probably Baptist because you became a church planter in the Bible belt. I am Baptist. Well, non denominational. My second guess would be that you were Catholic, given that it is the largest denomination in America. In Sunday school we would always learn about the events in the Bible. My family and I moved to China when I was still young and dumb. I thought most people were Christian, even though I grew up in a school where most people were not in fact Christian. This is where my story turns slightly different to you. You see, your pastor told you not to question. That questioning was not a good thing. Do you know what my mentor told me in high school? QUESTION. When a Christian is met with a challenge that they don't know the answer to, ask questions. Seek out the learned teachers(most of out teachers went to our church and some were elders, but the vast majority was Christian) and ask them. My mentor told me about a boy who asked his teacher why people go to hell. She responded, "because they ask questions like that." This is the worst thing you can do to a young Christian. Don't tell them not to question. You MUST question. Why? Well he told me. It's because it eats away at your faith and destroys you from the inside out. It's what happens when you grow among the thorns and are choked away by the perils of life. Revelation 22:2 "On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month, and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.” The figurative tree figuratively bears fruit every season. With figurative leaves that heal nations.

I wasn't blaming you as the man. I myself am a man, and one who stares in disgust at what has been engineered to become of women. The feminist movement did not come about to accomplish voting rights for women, it came about because people wanted to be able to have sex with whoever they want. That's twisted. I question your wife's decisions, but I do not know what will become of her. When one starts doing things that are against the Bible, perhaps they should rethink what they think of them being saved. As James said, faith without works is dead. He meant that a person must love, not just believe.
0 ups, 1w,
1 reply
Honestly, religion is OFTEN a wreck, but that's the faults of leaders here on Earth.
1 up, 1w,
2 replies
How nice of you to butt in. What are you, agnostic? You don't seem to be on either of our sides.
0 ups, 1w,
1 reply
lol, i can't even decide
1 up, 7d
So far the scrutiny has only been applied to i-know-what-im-talking-about
0 ups, 1w
also I'm absolutely GREAT at interrupting
0 ups, 1w
OH MY GOSH
He literally said no skeletons and chariots because THINGS ROT!
It's a mystery never solved, likely
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"THEY" FOUND BODIES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RED SEA WHERE EGYPTIAN SOLIDERS WOULD BE AFTER MOSES WALKED THROUGH! HALLELUHAH! The story claiming human skeletons, chariot wheels, and Egyptian army remains at the bottom of the Red Sea gained traction only through a satirical website (World News Daily Report), not actual archaeology. Investigations found that the alleged “Professor” involved didn’t exist and that the underwater photos of a skull used to support the claim were taken from a 2014 National Geographic article about a skeleton discovered in a flooded Mexican cave. NO. NO, THEY DIDN'T. PURE CHRISTIAN DESPERATION LOL