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this makes no sense. response to r/marxistculture

this makes no sense. response to r/marxistculture | image tagged in bike head tard,communism,fascism,democracy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
134 views 4 upvotes Made by Animevac2 3 weeks ago in politics
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1 up, 3w,
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On a factual basis no it is the moderate version of authoritarian left while fascism is on the authoritarian right but both extremes lead to suffering of the populations that one should not point to and say “this is why you should not be right wing at all because look what the nazis did” or “this is why you shouldn’t be a leftist at all because look at the Soviet Union” its merely a logical fallacy.
1 up, 3w
I'm not saying socdem is fascism
0 ups, 3w,
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Check your sources, they're wrong. Right wing capitalists aren't into fascist economies. Leftists are.
0 ups, 3w,
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wrong
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Yup, you even spelled wrong right this time.
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Okay so let’s set this straight they have the authoritarian side in common but fascism is authoritarian capitalism they crushed labor unions there were businesses that made a lot of profit off the war in Germany. The Nazis preserved the capitalist economy and the concept of private property. While the state heavily controlled the economy through regulations and control boards (Authoritarianism). The Nazis sent actual socialist and communist to camps and ment of them to their death. So when you say they support the fascist economic policies what you are trying to say is they are more on the authoritarian side because of the government regulations they often support but they are still to the left which is closer to maybe socialism which is what they say they support
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No, you are wrong. Fascism is not capitalism, never has been. It's a communist lie. Nazi is an acronym for National Socialist, nothing about socialism is capitalism. The founding destroyers of the Marxist movement softened the word communism by calling it socialism on purpose, they all instruct that socialism is a mere step toward the total tyranny of communism. Stop buying the lies, the only people who benefit from them are the thug rulers like Castro, Chavez, Maduro, Stalin, Lenin and Mao. Read "The Gulag Archipelago". It is a history and memoir of life in the Soviet Union's prison camp system by Russian novelist Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. You can get a free online download.
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The Chinese government is called the Chinese communist party that does not make it a communist country and can you give me the communist policies of the Nazis since I listed some capitalist ones, and just to be clear i am not a radical leftist who believes in communism and denies reality saying boys are girls, I am against the Cuban, Soviet, and the atrocities committed by commies but I am against changing the worst governments to be on the opposite side of the spectrum that they were to align with the opposite of your ideology. To be fair this argument is not to say that oh right wingers are closer to Nazis and therefor bad, that would be blatantly a logical fallacy.
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No I can't give you anything because you are incapable of critical analysis and discerning the truth. You say you oppose communist atrocities, and then you advocate every propaganda point they lay out. It's a lie that National Socialism is right wing. If it's right wing. it is just to the right of Communist tyranny not just to the left of conservatism. You are wrong. Can you admit that? It doesn't mean the end of the world, it means the end of manipulation by people who want to control you and the way you think. Communists are the masters of lies and manipulation, don't fall for it.
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Can you give me a Nazi communist economic policy? And communists arent the master of lies and manipulation they are at least second to Israel.
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Au contraire, a little French for you. If you said Nazi/communist economic policy it would be more accurate. National Socialism, is totalitarian, characterized by intense nationalism, anti-intellectualism, mass control, and dictatorial rule.
Communism is political an ideology with a socioeconomic order centered on common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products in society based on what the state determines is a need. It requires an absence of private property and social classes, and ultimately money and the state, which of course never happens, the money concentrates in the hands of the tyrants/tyranny of the state. According to Wikipedia, Communism is a part of the broader socialist movement. Such as the National Socialist movement. The individual, as one of the means of production is owned by the state, you don't have self determination.
Capitalism is founded on private investment and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of goods and wealth. This is guided by self government, you decide what is best for yourself and your interests and in pure capitalism you determine how to accomplish what you want to do with your resources. You can accumulate wealth to do with as you, the individual, determine is best , or not. You can gamble it away, you can spend it on profligate living, or you can be charitable for example. In Socialist governance you have none of those rights, what is yours is the states. The fruits of your labor belongs to others, and tyrants decide how it is used, often for their own benefit.
Look at Fidel Castro and his family, Cuba was impoverished and his family was wealthy. Or Look at Hugo Chavez, Venezuela was impoverished and Chavez died fabulously wealthy- not really sharing equally with the Venezuelan people. His successor- Maduro- is a billionaire, while Venezuelans languish in poverty.
There are 23.8 million millionaires and 813 billionaires in the United States. See the difference? I'm technically a millionaire. I bought land and built my home on it, complete with off-grid solar. It's all paid for. I live on $2500/mo social security, so it's not like I own a yacht or travel all over the world, but I hike whenever I want to, I paddle rivers and lakes when I want to, I read every book I want to, I eat food I grow. It's a simple life, I determine how my money is spent, it's good to be a millionaire compared to a socialist.
1 up, 3w
Nice evasion of a basic enough question.

Nice logic too. You start off by explaining how Nazism and Communism are complete opposites, then go on to say Nazism is Communism because National Socialist Party. Which is why, as we all know, the Nazis waged war against Communists in the USSR and also in the Spanish Civil War.

What's in a name indeed.

And now you're a millionaire. I guess that book sold pretty well.
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Okay so let’s set this straight they have the authoritarian side in common but fascism is authoritarian capitalism they crushed labor unions there were businesses that made a lot of profit off the war in Germany. The Nazis preserved the capitalist economy and the concept of private property. While the state heavily controlled the economy through regulations and control boards (Authoritarianism). The Nazis sent actual socialist and communist to camps and ment of them to their death. So when you say they support the fascist economic policies what you are trying to say is they are more on the authoritarian side because of the government regulations they often support but they are still to the left which is closer to maybe socialism which is what they say they support.
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