In French, Les Fleurs du Mal (the flowers of evil)

Libs are the ones who are calling them "brown" people. We don't are what color their skin is, if they broke our immigration laws the win a one way ticket back home.

Libs absolutely love it that they are "brown" people so they can use race as their rationale for allowing more people to cross our border illegally so that they can get them to vote Democrat.

If the Dems could not control how the illegals voted and thought they would prefer Republicans over Democrats, the Dems would have built that wall 50 years ago.

Is it extremely rare for illegal immigrants to vote because they're not allowed to, and there has never been an election that was decided because of illegal immigrants voting

Yeah, when they're here in the US is extremely rare that they vote in their home country.

It's pretty common for them to vote here.

Why do you want so many illegal immigrants in this country? Is obeying our sovereignty laws too much to ask?

No, it's not pretty common for them to vote here because they cannot vote here at all, except on the local level in some municipal elections in some municipalities where they vote for officials in school districts.

When you're a leftist and have been taught that "the ends just the means" then you think that violating the law is perfectly acceptable. But (most) laws are written for a reason and they were written regardless of anyone's "means".

No one here said anything about the ends justifying the means

"No one here said anything about the ends justifying the means"

I never said anyone did say that. That is the mantra of the left from years ago. I was saying that to make a point. Because conservatives have been watching the left do that and get away with it all the time. Republican politicians have been wimps because whenever they speak out against the left, the media call them one of the standard insults and it scares them that they my not get re-elected.

Trump comes along with is "I don't give a crap" attitude and it just pisses the left. And on top of that Trump has been having fun with it and just rubbing it in to the haters.

That's just a fancy way of saying he's a disgusting creep and unprofessional slob who doesn't belong anywhere near political office

No. That's just the kind of presidents we get now. I think it started with either Obama or Clinton. But we get presidents who stopped acting presidential. But Trump doesn't have time for being presidential. The country is in such bad shape for several decades of politicians, both Republican and Democrat, just kicking the can down the road for the next guy so they didn't have to deal with it that we are pretty much in dire straits right now.

I know you don't see that because you've already told me that Biden made the economy better. I guess you don't look outside very much but Biden screwed this country royal.

Said unironically, no less.

Leftists from the originals in the French Revolution as well as the US Founding Fathers established rule of law over rule by decree, the latter which Right Wingers have sought to re-establish ever since, and which they seek through Trump.

Try again

or, rather, don't

I agree with you.

But in 1776 I would have been a liberal. Conservatives would be the Democrat party.

That was reversed in the late 1800's or early 1900's. I am a classical liberal and a modern conservative.

However the the French Revolution was caused by pre-Marx socialists. That's why there was just soooooooo much killing going on in that revolution.

In the 2020 election there were truckloads of illegals being driven from precinct to precinct in Nevada. They were given instructions to vote for Biden. If it happened in Nevada then were else did it happen and they just didn't get caught.

2020 was an actual vote landslide for Trump that was handed to Biden. I knew 2020 would be rigged in 2016 when Hillary lost. I saw the absolute hatred they had in the faces of every Democrat, pundit, and anyone else on the left.

I really wish I could comprehend the mindset that Dems go through to create this level of hatred. They accuse Trump of anything that crosses their hateful minds.

I'm pretty sure I, and everybody else on the planet would have heard that story, but nary a peep on Fox, Tucker, this site, or even Trump. The story never existed until you posted it today.

Trump lost in 2020 because of Covid, mostly because of skyrocketing prices, but also because of Trump's completely inept mishandling of the situation, making it all about him, as usual. Gary Busey could have run against him, and he would have won.

Didn't you hear? Democrats and Antifa and George Soros flew plane loads of people in from Mexico to vote for Biden then flew them back to mexicania without anyone noticing

He honed his craft when he used to drive Nazis to apprehend Jews.

He was the only person to be a high ranking Nazi general before reaching puberty

"CzechyCheeseHappyHolidays

He was the only person to be a high ranking Nazi general before reaching puberty"

And the only Jew too.

He was a precocious child. And he was particularly skilled at finding Jews who were in hiding.

"Knock knock"

"Who's there?"

"Soros"

"Dammit.
Grab the kids, honey, we're going to Auschwitz"

"I'm pretty sure I, and everybody else on the planet would have heard that story, but nary a peep on Fox, Tucker, this site, or even Trump."

Yeah, not much was said about it on Fox. Tucker got fired from Fox because he disparaged Dominion Voting machines. Which later lost another lawsuit about their machines being dishonest.

But in case you missed there was a whole lot of conservatives who protested in Washington DC starting on January 5th, 2021 and ending the next day. You may have heard something about that. A small group of the protestors got arrested for trespassing when they went into the Capitol building because the Capital police just started shooting rubber bullets and flash grenades at them.

But you probably didn't hear about that. The dang leftist media just never reports when conservatives do anything.

"Gary Busey could have run against him, and he would have won."

I would have voted for Gary Busey over Joe Biden or Kamala Harris any day of the week.

He got fired for lying about dominion, not for disparaging them. Because of him and people like him, Fox News had to pay almost $800 million in a settlement. Would you want to keep an employee who costs your company almost $800 million?

A large group of the protestors got arrested for trespassing...and assault and seditious conspiracy among other crimes

I'm sure those cops just started shooting rubber bullets completely unprovoked 😂😂 i'm sure it had nothing to do with the violent assaults that we have on video

Makes sense, you voted for trump over more qualified people. Why not Gary Busey?

He didn't lie about Dominion. He lost the law suit but Tucker wasn't lying. Dominion machines were brought into this country by Obama specifically to alter elections. That is what Dominion voting machines are known for. That's why ever since they started using them people were complaining because they quite literally saw the vote change from whatever party to Democrat. Most of those complains were ignored by everyone, including the Republicans until the 2020 election when people started to stand up and speak out against Dominion.

Dominion won against Carlson, which I can only imagine that the judge must have been a Democrat. But later on Dominion got sued by someone else for the same thing and Dominion lost that one.

You need to understand a joke when you see one. I would never vote for Gary Busey. But if I was forced to vote and my only options were voting for Busey, voting for a Democrat or death. Obviously I don't want to die so I would have to vote for Busey. Even though Busey most likely is a Democrat.

I'm sorry I thought you were capable of understanding my comment. I'll try again

When illegal immigrants are in the United States it is extremely uncommon for them to vote in elections in the United States

I hope you got that

I'm sorry but I don't think you understood what I said. It is not as rare as you think. The fact that is happens at all is horrifying.

You said "when they're here in the US is extremely rare that they vote in their home country". I never said anything about them voting in their home country. I was clearly referring to them voting in the US

you also said "It's pretty common for them to vote here". No it's not

It was a play on words. It is is rare that they voted in their home countries because they were in our country. They were not physically in their own country to be able to vote. That's all. It was just a play on words. But a lot of illegals vote in our elections. That is just a fact and they are promoted by the Democrat party because Democrats are desperate for power and control. They always have been. More so than Republicans. Dems aren't happy unless they are controlling our lives.

Trump dissolved his own 'Voter Fraud' Commission in early 2018 after it found nothing. Well, other than a couple of small cases of Republicans committing voter fraud. That's it.

And???

And I've already shown that this administration is targeting people just because of their skin color

I hear liberals complaining about who will pick their food or clean their bathrooms if we send them back. Is that all you want them here for? Sorry but we ended slavery in this country. If you want them here to be your slaves then that too bad for you. Go live in a Muslim country, they still practice slavery.

Liberal farmers are complaining about who will pick their food? Liberal farmers?
So conservative farmers are basically okay with having to have their families work on their family farms for the first time since the Dust Bowl era socialist subsidies began thanks to FDR, effectively allowing them money to hire illegals?

Depending on the source, there are currently somewhere between 400,000 to 1.1 million slaves in the USA right now today.

Don't be silly. Liberals don't know how to farm. It was pundits and TV personalities who said that.

When people say that illegals are doing the work that Americans won't. That's not factual. It's the work that Americans won't do at illegal alien wages.

However, millennials don't want to work, period. Right now there are more jobs than we have people to work those jobs. It's because young adults don't want to work and that's why unemployment is not at zero.

That was too easy.

Now tell all those so-called family farmers that it's just a television slogan on, what is it called again? Legacy Media? It's not MSN anymore, it's Legacy Media now, right? I want to make sure I'm down with the hep kool kidz lingo code now.

Anyways, tell the so-called family farmers that they don't have to hire illegals anymore because us elitist Yankees told them it's just a catch phrase. So they can get off their fat asses and do some work, maybe do something with that John Deere other than turning it into a monster truck for the annual county state fair.

Good grief, this is all Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault. He turned American farmers into a bunch of lazy welfare queens.

In a grand twist, you know who our cowboys again? Mexicans. Mexican caballeros are our cowboys again. The Great American symbol reverted back to its Mexican origins. Cowboys. Cow-boy-lleros riding broncos on the ranch-eros.

eh, it was fun while it lasted. Looks like we're going to have to hire John Wayne to round up the sheep again.

As a matter of fact it is FDR's fault.

You: The Bronx
Me: The West (Utah and California).

What do you know about cowboys?

A caballero is not a cowboy. They are horsemen. Cowboys are cattle herders. Get it straight, New York!

Farmers are not cowboys, they grow crops.

Farmers are not caballeros, they are los granjeros.

Mexicans can be granjeros or caballeros but they don't have to be either. They don't have to pick your crops or clean your bathrooms just because they are Mexicans.

Puerto Ricans are not Mexicans and they are jealous because Mexicans have better food. Everyone is jealous of Mexicans because they have the best food. Except for the Indians and the Thai people because they have good food also.

Then there's Mexican Americans, which is a song by Cheech Marin that goes something like this:

Mexican Americans don't like to just get into gang fights
They like flowers and music and white girls named Debbie too

Mexican Americans are named Chata and Chella and Chemma
And have a son-in-law named Jeff

Mexican Americans don't like to get up early in the morning
But they have to so they do it real slow

Mexican Americans love education so they go to night school
And they take Spanish and get a B

Mexican Americans love their Nana's and their Nono's and their
Nina's and their Nino's nano nano nina nono!

Mexican Americans don't like to go to the movies where the
Dude has to wear contact lenses to make his blue eyes brown
'Cause don't it make my brown eyes blue.....

And that is why it is all FDR's fault. And liberals don't know how to farm because they all live in huge cities. Because there is something about living in huge cities that makes people go crazy and turn into liberals and socialists. And Socialists have lousy food because they can't make Mexicans work in the fields for free. Because Mexicans were not born to pick your crops or clean your toilets.

Cowboy culture was derived from Spanish/Mexican culture. That's why it suddenly 'appeared' out of nowhere for Anglos who went West. From the hats to the chaps and ranches and lassos and all the other (Spanish) terms, Cowboys are Cow-boy-lleros. Because math.

You CAN look this up you know.

From African slaves to Mexican illegals, do Anglos need them because they never knew how to farm at all? I mean, beyond cabbage in rainy England?

My comment didn't say anything about slavery or cleaning bathrooms or picking crops, did it?

What you said is not the point of my comment. Why do you want to open the border to illegal immigrants. Because as I said, a lot of liberals on TV are asking "who will pick our food" or "who will clean our bathrooms" when they try to justify opening the border.

I want to know why you think it is important or good for America why we should open our borders to let anyone come in whenever they want and for whatever reason they want?

Also why is it necessary to encourage them to come here by offering them welfare, housing and other perks. What is that all about? Why is it fair to do that for them while millions of Americans are homeless and living on the streets?

You haven't shown anything other than a headline from a liberal "news" website.

You're assuming I listen to left wing media and pundits. You don't know that I do.

I never said all conservatives are Nazis or fascists or racists. But many of them are. That's just a fact. Your side isn't perfect just like my side isn't perfect. I'm not promoting or supporting tyranny.

Between the two of us only one is saying that all the violence and all the hatred and all the problems come from the other side. I'm not the one saying that. I say what I say based on research and evidence and facts. What you say flies in the face of the evidence and facts, like when you say that Republicans never commit violence or that only people on the left commit violence or that people on the left are the ones who support fascism and Naziism. None of that is true.

"I never said all conservatives are Nazis or fascists or racists. But many of them are."

Wrong answer. If you are not listening to left wing media or pundits then what is your rationale for saying "But many of them are"?

THERE ARE NO CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE NAZIS OR FASCISTS!!! NONE!!! ZERO!!! NADA!!!

It is true that at some point the Neo Nazis left the Democrat Party and joined the Republican Party but that does NOT make them conservative. That just makes them Republicans.

As for fascists, WE HAVE ZERO FASCISTS. THERE ARE NO FACISTS IN THIS COUNTRY.

You support socialism. Socialism is tyranny. Therefore, you support tyranny. Neither the premise or the argument is flawed in this syllogism. That means the conclusion is accurate.

"Between the two of us only one is saying that all the violence and all the hatred and all the problems come from the other side. I'm not the one saying that."

Wrong answer. This is the time I wish I was Modda. He would always pull out some quote I made and post the image of it from some post on a completely different meme. I don't have that kind of memory to remember where you made those comments. There are many, many, many times you have said the violence is only coming from the right. I do understand that you said it in reaction to what I said but you just cannot say "I'm not the one saying that"

What I have said was based on my own research of evidence and facts. So if you base yours on evidence and facts and I base mine on evidence and facts, then one of us is wrong and it ain't me. I know what I know based on what is reported in the news. I have had to dig deeper than just the headline news stories. But even so, if they do not say it was a conservative in the headline, that means it was a leftist. Because the left has been chomping at the bit for decades trying to report that some right wing nutjob shot up a school. But it has never been reported.

Plus if you wait for a later report where they are trying to release facts that were not released in the main article, most of the time the reporter will slip up and let you know directly or indirectly the political affiliation of the shooter.

But I have told you this already and you refuse to believe it. Even though I just told you the exact process I went through to find out this information.

So all I can guess is you watched some TV show were the mass shooter was a right wing nutjob and thought that was based on reality.

It's like what I used to tell people here in the neighborhood growing up who resented the stereotyping put upon them by images of the Mafia in movies and whatnot. I'd tell them, you think yous don't like it? Imagine how the rest of us feel who chance getting shot as innocent bystanders in the crossfire. We don't like the Mafia a hell of a lot more than the people who are the Mafia don't.

Same goes for RWNJs. Do you remember the last school shooting? Neither do I. That's how normalized it's become. Nobody can remember the last ones, it's just that regular of an occurrence. School shooting? Oh, it must be Monday.

After all this time you still want to call me "far reich fascists rascist neo-nazi"? Dude, I thought we were friends. You don't call your friends names like that and you don't accuse your friends of being something they're not.

I saw a guy a few days ago wearing a track suit, he looked like he could be Italian and he was a big guy. My wife asked me, "Who let East-Coast in here". The dude looked like he walked right out of a mafia movie set in New York City. Because outside of that part of the world you live in, no one wears track suits.

However, the dumbest thing ever is LA street thugs and those who want to look like their tough, started wearing parkas in LA. Now I know, having grown up there, that when it turns 50° outside, everyone freezes to death in So. Cal. But having lived in Missouri and now Utah for the last 25 years, 50° isn't cold.

But NYC street thugs (and wannabees) wear heavy parkas because it gets cold there. So when I see them in LA (whenever I go back) I just have to laugh, especially when it is summer. I seriously wonder if some of them passed out from heat exhaustion.

I did not call you that. I did not say anything about you.
If you somehow thought for whatever reason that applied to you, then that's on you.
All I said is those who get labeled it should stop doing what they're doing that gets them labeled it if the label bothers them.

Too much television. Granted, while I have said I knew those people - I mean the types - in The Sopranos, I always did say that Tony Soprano acted like a bit of a slouch. Track suits? Maybe Pauly Walnuts, but over here they wear suit suits. I don't know, maybe some do on occasion, but I never saw one walking around with a T-shirt and a bathrobe to get the paper in front of his grand house like Tony Soprano did.

A Bronx Tale would be a more accurate depiction of clothing selection.

Oh okay. It was that chick dressed like the Joker who said it. My mistake.

I never watched the Sopranos. I don't know how they dressed on that show. There's just been other shows were the mafia henchmen wore track suits. It gives the east coast, specifically NYC that reputation that people there wear track suits. Not everyone but enough of them to where they show up in movies and TV shows.

"they" "they" If you think they are you, then that's on you.

What movies are you referring to?

Who's "they".

Take just about any mafia movie or TV show, especially a comedy and you'll see guys in track suits. I can't remember the names of any right now. Didn't they track suit wearing guys in John Wick? I can't remember.

Just because you don't like the website doesn't mean the story is false. You can easily verify it.

I can tell you right now the story is false.

Then prove it. Prove that the Supreme Court didn't say that

No. I have better things to do with my life.

Better things like bearing false witness? That's a Top 10 Sin.

I think just messing with people's minds for your own enjoyment should be listed in the Bible somewhere as a sin. Don't you?

Fella, after a an extended meandering back and forth for hours when I finally pull an O. Henry and post a screenshot from the past to show that something you're accusing me of was actually something that you're guilty of, you would then say that you were "only messing with me."

That's your phrase. I'm trying to be polite about this by saying maybe I did once.
I don't use the term. You do. That's why you keep repeating it.

What I do do is play along with people's games and make sure they win. They set the parameters, I play along. They get to win the truth. And the truth is that their projection really is not deflection after all.

I get people to play themselves. I'll get a timer if I say the T-word, but that's what I do. I facilitate them doing it to themselves.

I said I am here to have fun. I am not here to change the world and convince people that their fabrications are exactly that, fabrications. They are already aware of that. Fabrication takes effort on one's part. The truth is easy, it's there, all anyone has to do is say it. Trying to reconfigure reality in order to convince others of bogus fanfic and then try to sustain the delusion is not that is easy. They are their own damnation.

But doesn't your manipulation of the conversation in order to have fun result in the same thing as just messing with someone?

How is it that you have helped anyone win? And at the same time how is it if you're helping them win then how are you showing them that their fabrication is a fabrication. How is that helping them win.

If you're not trying to change the world then why are you always countering everyone's arguments. I don't seem to recall you spending any time helping some on the left to win or helping them to see their fabrications are fabrications.

Why is it that you posted a meme that accused me of being a nazi, I'm only assuming that your meme was directed at me because I got the notification of your post? Then when I questioned you you denied it. Was that how you are having fun?

And if it is then aren't you just trying to mess with my head?

Yes, I have said I was messing around in the past but that was when I was joking about something. That's not a constant state. I don't constantly joke around. If something strikes me as funny I'll joke about it.

Early on when I started posting I was under the mistaken notion that if people heard the truth explained in a logical manner they would understand it and realize it. Boy, what I ever wrong. People believe what they want to believe regardless of how illogical, irrational and false the belief is. In fact their insecurity in their beliefs just makes them more adamant in supporting their beliefs.

That's why I don't make the mega long posts like I used to. It's a waste of time. If someone asks me for proof, I typically say no. Because if I can find it online than so can they. I don't keep a copy of every article I've read. Posting on ImgFlip is not a profession, it's just a way to waste time.

As I am getting older, I am going to have to quit doing this soon because other wise my comments won't be coherent.

"AdamSmithsInvisibleHand

I think just messing with people's minds for your own enjoyment should be listed in the Bible somewhere as a sin. Don't you?"

Then don't do it then.

You accused me of saying I said that I do that to you the other week. I have no recollection of this other than you having said you're just messing with me quite a few times.

If I ever said I did do it, it would have been a one time thing, not regular.

And here you are, trying to mess with my head by telling me you never said you were just here to mess with people's heads.

Save that for someone else who doesn't know your game.

If you make a claim and then refuse to back it up, don't expect people to take you seriously. I at least provided support for what I said. You can't even do that. And we both know why

I don't have to back that claim. It is just pretty obvious. It that bothers you then I'm sorry about that. But I'm just getting tired of playing this game.

If you ever want to know the truth you are going to have to start by trying to understand the people you hate. Ask yourself, why are the really saying and doing the things they are and STOP listening to left wing pundits. You are not going to get the truth from them. You are going to have to find it yourself.

We are not Nazis. We are not fascists. We are not racists. We are not haters. We are just regular ordinary human beings just trying to save our country from the exact tyranny your side accuses us of.

Stop dehumanizing us. Stop listening to people who dehumanize us. I do not dehumanize you. I know you are a person who believes that you are just going about your life trying to make sense out of us.

I'm a 67 year old man with a loving wife. We've been married for 35 years. I don't hate you, I really don't hate anyone. I hate ideologies. I think the ideology that you are advocating is tyranny. And that is about the sum of it.

I'm just getting tired of this back and forth we've been having and I find it counter productive and just a waste of time.