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You do realize that this movie is about fascism?
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The Starship Troopers book by Robert A. Heinlein is a philosophical novel about civic duty and responsibility, told from a first-person perspective,
while the 1997 movie is an action-packed satire with a broader cast and different plot points. The movie is a violent and campy commentary that intentionally reinterprets the book's political themes, focusing on action over the novel's detailed exploration of the book's political workings.
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I'd argue that Verhoeven's reimagining draws out themes that are latent in Heinlein's worldview and the glorification of the military. The action isn't the interesting part at all.
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Militarism =/= Fascism.
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Agreed, but the centrality of militarism, the disenfranchisement of those who don't serve the government's narrative, and (CRITICALLY) the system's reliance on a demonized, dehumanized other to keep everyone serving it without question -- those are key elements of fascism.

There's a reason that the current administration's focus on various "others" is ringing so many alarm bells. Fascism uses an external threat to exert ever greater internal control. And Paul Verhoeven's personal experiences growing up under the fascist regime that took over his country have given him a personal stake in reminding us of the dangers of fascism.
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Fair enough, but the issue here is that the "bugs" are really not human.
As such there is no such thing as dehumanisastion going on.
The threat from the bugs is also not imaginary so no demonisation is going on either.
Which means the (CRITICAL) part is non-existent.
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That may be how Heinlein meant it, but it's telling that he chose an enemy that could never be human, and the scene of the telepathic officer torturing the brainbug (which arguably has humanlike intelligence) is clearly being played as a warning. I'll bet that's a scene that Verhoeven added to drive the point home.
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"To change the point."

Which is a literal propaganda tool. To add or emit information to change the tone.
Trumps: "They are eating cats and dogs comes to mind"

(also dog tastes good tho)
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Well, this is where we'll have to disagree: a strong translation of Heinlein's text to screen, that, as I said, foregrounds some of the ideas that are latent in the text, is valid and exciting.
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Fine.

But let´s not forget that the othering is a political tool used by everygroup on the political spectrum. In the US right now "illegal immigrants" and "magats"as example.
The second on being way closer to "bugs" in the dehumanisation department.
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Are right wingers being hunted down by masked government squads, zip-tied and disappeared . . . oh, yes, I forgot that ICE was arresting a goodish number of Latinos who are legal citizens and voted for Trump. But that's on your Fuhrer, not the left wing.
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