Joker cards come in both black and red. Therefore, somewhere out there, there's a red jevil, watching, waiting.

so are they chaos chaos or something else?

Well, they both still have the mantra of being able to do anything, as per the joker card, but Acolybat is less "freedom" chaos and more slightly cultish chaos. They're trapped in a cage as well, but they don't recognize THIS as freedom. Their freedom belief is from the same cultish belief. They still absolutely realize they're in a cage, as per the Canary in the Cage thing.

so they would or would not have freedom motif? also nice.

They would because C U L T
They have freedom of choice, just not freedom of location

cool!