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Remember, a historian with a "personal relationship with Jesus" makes him a biased historian.

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0 ups, 2w,
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Most Christian (or Islam, if you will) arguments are based in logic, this is where most of my reasoning is rooted. Then when it comes to personal experiences, it's not so much about the experience, but more about the "coincidences" and the proof of the experiences.
There are true things that happened where the body has separated from the soul and the person sees stuff. In surgery, someone recalled something they could never have known. Other people have done the same.
Your scientists can say some pretty weird things.
0 ups, 2w,
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You've done zero research on this. Zero. At least not any unbiased research.
0 ups, 2w,
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That's a bold claim you've made there, son. I could say the exact same about you, so that line of reasoning is gonna get you nowhere.
0 ups, 2w,
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Well, "son" as a committed Christian, a missionary, a seminary graduate, a church planter, and a preacher, I do know more than you. I'd bet the lives of my children and grandchildren on it. You are a pathetic believer in myths and fairy tales. You're no different that those claiming Islam is the one true religion, or that Lord Brahma created the world. There's no difference. But I can assure you, I've done the studies. You haven't. You've studied only the apologist's stance on atheism. Your cognitive bias is so strong, you can't even see it. I know. I did that too. I WAS YOU at for over five decades. Then I realized, out of the blue, that I'd not only been deceived, but was a deceiver myself, spouting all this "knowledge" about Greek and Hebrew and Aramaic, but ignoring any and all evidence to the contrary of what I wanted to believe, what I wanted to be true.

And at the end of the day, you believe in simple magic tricks and refuse to recognize that people legitimately have evidence to the contrary of your own beliefs.
I don't believe in magic. I can't. End of discussion. And I find it funny that people can be uber skeptical of so many things in their lives (government, politicians, medical claims, the magic claimed by OTHER religions), but cling to their childhood beliefs in a dude in the sky they can't see and never will.

You need to go to bibviz.org or read The Skeptics Annotated Bible and get back to me. You won't read those because they "might destroy your faith" that you so desperately need.

I'm not your son, and I'm probably older than your own father.
0 ups, 1w
You know I'm not using son in that way. Would you rather I call you man?

You can't just say that you're smarter. That's ridiculous. Maybe you have done more research, but scientists can't just say they're smarter than everyone else and therefore everybody must follow them. Their own internal disagreements are proof of that. You talk to me like that in a condescending manner, as though you're smarter than me. Because of that, you're probably dumber than most of us. Respect every living person, they each have a life. Do you realize that?

There are miracles that happen every day. Different religions argue about what caused the miracles, but atheists deny the miracles that appear before their very eyes. Of course I'm going to deny the other religions, it goes against my own. You do just that as well. Only one of us can be right, unless all of us are wrong. We believe in a dude in the sky, in the ground, all around us, who was the only way we could possibly have begun to exist. It's not magic, that's for sure.

You were me, eh? Well, apparently, you weren't. You failed to take root. You were the seed that was sowed on the rocky ground. You sprouted fast, but you had no root. Your faith was fake, a dally, so when the scorching sun came up, you dried up and died (Matthew 13:3-9). There's hope for you still. Maybe God will soften your heart.

As I have mentioned before, I'll welcome your challenges to my belief. I need not worry about destroying my faith. Looking at the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, I'm surprised that I didn't realize they would make a website that pointed out the "inaccuracies". I have nothing to worry about while I read that.
0 ups, 2w,
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“The ‘I don’t get it, therefore God did it’ move isn’t an argument. It’s just admitting you stopped learning and want everyone else to stop with you.

Science doesn’t claim to have every answer—just the discipline to investigate instead of surrender. We know how elements form in stars, how organic molecules arise in natural environments, how evolutionary pressures build complex brains, and how consciousness correlates with neural architecture. Those are published, testable fields of study.

UNLESS you just believe your life should be run by the writings and musings of 2000-3000 year old nomadic, middle eastern, goat herding shamans, fishermen, and tent makers intent on accumulating wealth, land acquisition, controlling women, and controlling their societies through the stories and tales they told around their campfires and the fear those stories and tales relied upon to achieve said control.
0 ups, 2w,
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I'm not giving you the personal incredulity fallacy. I'm not saying I don't understand it, I'm saying that science can't and never will. Science has its limits and can only take you so far.

My life should be run by the writings and knowledge of wise men 2000 years ago, going back to further than 4000 years ago. The ones who led fulfilling lives, not perfect, but better than you. Where they stood out from the other worshippers as the religion with only one God. These written stories with more than enough backing, written as laws to keep the rebellious people of Israel faithful to the Lord.

I'm not the one pulling personal incredulity.
0 ups, 2w,
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Those stories and laws were copied from other cultures. Christianity is a copycat religion, modified for it's adherents, and squirted out the asses of idiots as truth.
0 ups, 1w,
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Really? Is that what you think? It's a good thing you're no longer a pastor, teaching the inaccuracies that led you to stop believing. Teachers who make exceptions and inaccuracies in the Bible are considered least in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19)
0 ups, 1w,
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Dude, it's in history. It's right there. 100% of Christianity is copied.
Road to Emmaus? Copied from a myth
Noah's Ark? Copied from a myth, which was copied from an earlier myth
Water into wine? Copied from Dionisius.
Virgin Birth? Holy shit that one was overdone. Every religion has one of those.
Raised from the dead after three days? You guess it. Copied from earlier myths.

You serve a copy cat god that only exists between your ears. YOU are your god.
0 ups, 1w,
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YOUR FACE IS A COPYCAT RELIGION.

And no, Christianity is not a copycat.
The road to Emmaus is not copied, you're just finding similarities and declaring that copying.
Noah's ark is not copied from a myth. A myth was copied from Noah's ark.
Water into wine, again, not a copy, just a similarity.
The virgin birth copied? Ha! You're confusing priestesses who claim to have been raped by gods to avoid being discovered committing adultry and a woman who gave birth with no sexual relations whatsoever.
Died and rose again after three days? Those myths are rarely exact with their times, you just invented the three days thing to make it look similar. And note that the three days thing is really old in the Bible, not just during the life of Jesus, way before that.

This is just an extreme texas sharpshooter fallacy and various others taken to the next level. YOU are YOUR god. Or science is your god.
0 ups, 1w
Sorry for insulting you. Your face is not a copycat religion.
0 ups, 5d,
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Which came first? The second one is a copy. In all cases, it was your religion. Christianity is a copycat religion and I'm laughing at it.
And I invented nothing. I'm only quoting historians. Which historians are you quoting? Oh, it's the goat f**kers in your buybull.

You REALLY need to read the go***amn book. But you're too fearful.
0 ups, 4d,
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Your resorting to insults speaks more that you're not destroying me and are, in fact, more desperate than it speaks that I'm an idiot and a child who can't do math.
0 ups, 3d
Read the god ... damn ... book.
Or go to https://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
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