"Believers" will believe anything a guy with a pointy hat or a $5000 suit says from a pulpit.

Miracles have happened and are happening. Open your eyes.

No miracles happen. Ever. Time to grow up.

Open them I say. Open your eyes. Take a look at the world around you. You'd be surprised. One in a billion chance things happen. Open your eyes.

Read the damn book.

Heh. I'd tell you to watch your language, though the warning probably won't stop you.

Did you know that I did not originally believe that miracles happen in the modern era? I had the same reasoning as this book.

From what I can see so far in the book around what I have access to, it has very clear flaws.
Firstly, it talks about "miracles" that could happen randomly. I had this thought before I started believing. These I would not consider miracles. Miracles are the things that just don't happen. Like a car flipping clean off the expressway, spinning, and landing right side up on the road, completely unharmed except for PTSD. I know someone who had that happen to them. Or like a person who had DDD a surprisingly young age but one day the problem was just gone.

Oh yes, there are miracles. Coincidence just doesn't cut it. Open those eyes.

Read the damn book

Watch your language. I just refuted everything I could see from it without paying money (and there's no way I'm gonna pay money for a silly debate online). If there's a better argument that's competent, you'll have to tell me, because from all the evidence so far, miracles exist.

Read the god ... damn ... book.
Miracles only exist in your brain.

Silence. Watch your language.
If miracles only exist in my brain, you only exist in my brain.

Read the god ... damn ... book, god ... damn ... it. How's that?
Miracles only exist in your brain.
Your god ... damn ... god only exists between your ears. 8rpt1i.jpg (click to show)

Extraordinary claims require proportionate evidence. You go around claiming all sorts of things about the Laws of Physics, then want all those laws suspended so you can coddle the delusion between your ears.

An event being unlikely doesn’t make it supernatural. Miracle claims require evidence stronger than the laws they supposedly break, and modern medical literature treats surprising recoveries as unexplained, not "divine". Unless the claim is independently verified, repeatable, and better explained by a supernatural cause than by chance, error, or unknown natural processes, calling it a ‘miracle’ is just labeling ignorance. And you've provided NOTHING.

So unless you can produce a peer-reviewed paper showing a suspension of natural law instead of ‘something surprising happened once,’ you’re not arguing for miracles ... you’re just repackaging statistical ignorance as theology.

You showed nothing but ignorance. Pure stupidity actually. There are no miracles so I officially publicly blaspheme your stupid god. F U C K your dumbass buybull god. If I could do it any worse, I would. Now let's see if I get struck by lightening ... nope. Still here ... ITS A MIRACLE!!!

You're far more ignorant than I thought. AND you're using the personal incredulity fallacy again, despite your claim that you're not. LOL "many of these unlikely things that happen that there has to have been something supernatural involved" <-- THIS is the personal incredulity fallacy.

You don't understand it ... therefore gAwD. It just HAS to be "super" natural. You'd be laughed off the stage at ANY legitimate debate. But please keep going ... you're giving me more fodder for my book on DUMB THINGS CHRISTIANS SAY

People who understand it realize everything happened without your god. So, yes, you keep using the personal credulity fallacy. You just can't see it ... which is part of your lack of credulity.

Wrong again dumbass. You cant recognize evidence and excuse the lack of it. With faith as your foundation, you can be convinced to believe anything.

I've said something that shows that miracles exist. You've ignored my statement and simply told me to go read the book. Watch your rotten language.

You're blind, sir, blind as a bat. Ignore God's signs and claim they only exist in my head. You do that.

Things can get very unlikely sometimes, and there are some many of these unlikely things that happen that there has to have been something supernatural involved. And miracles are also when something that defies the laws of physics happens.
Live blind.

Again I say I am not saying that. I am not saying I don't understand it, therefore God. I am saying it cannot happen without God, not that I don't get it. I repeat, and I can't stress this enough, I am not saying that I don't understand it. I understand it, and it's God.

I can respond with your own invasive, untrue accusation with one of my own. YOU'RE using personal incredulity, you just don't know it. You're saying that you don't understand God, therefore there is none.

This is not how an accusation works.

This is responding to your most recent comment on this line of replies.

The Christian faith is the most grounded worldview known to mankind. A religion based in faith is not necessarily a religion that is not grounded in evidence.

It's you atheists who will believe anything to avoid even the prospect of the Lord.

Where you're absolutely wrong is we WISH a god existed. If one did, the world would be a completely different place.

Your silly religious beliefs didn’t arise because you investigated anything or were shown proofs, they arose because belief comes first and reasons come later. You were exposed to a culture, authority, confirmation bias, and emotional appeal which did all the rest. Religion is a predictable byproduct of how human brains evolved to make sense of the world.

Your god is between your ears. No place else.

Sir, if God wasn't, you wouldn't. Without God there is no world for you to cry in, to laugh in, to celebrate the death and resurrection and birth of Jesus in.

Jokes on you, that actually happened.
And YES, we're laughing at you for ignoring the proof of every other miracle that happened. How do you explain the dead egyptians on the bottom of the red sea for no apparent reason?

LOL, sure. Let's see if your brain is working. I wonder if those "dead Egyptians" coulda wound up there by any reason other than "gawd did it" ... nope. ZERO Egyptians have died in the Red Sea over the past 5000 years other than a mythical origin story told by some nomadic idiots 3000 years ago.

That specific spot is completely unusual. And, it's in the perfect spot for the splitting of the sea, which God did. I can't really claim to be a Christian without claiming that miracles exist. Lucky for me, I claim that miracles exist.
There is more proof of the events of the Bible than any other history book.

Whether miracles exist now or not is debatable I'm sure they still happen. But I know that they used to happen. And there's proof. Those bodies at the bottom of the Red Sea.

You've been duped.
The story claiming human skeletons, chariot wheels, and Egyptian army remains at the bottom of the sea gained traction only through a satirical website (World News Daily Report), not actual archaeology and subsequent investigations found that the alleged “Professor” involved didn’t exist and that the photos used to support the claim were mis-attributed from divers who found a skull in an underwater cave in Mexico. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-false-story-archaeologists-unearth-exodus.html

As one survey put it: there is no reliable physical evidence that supports a mass drowning of an Egyptian army or a miraculous sea-crossing as described in the biblical narrative.

Christians are SO easily duped. You should read about David Green and his purchase of some fake Dead Sea Scrolls LOL. David is the founder of Hobby Lobby and he's been duped many, many times in failed attempts to find some what to justify your silly beliefs. Oh wait ... you don't read ... sorry, I forgot.

You won't be able to find skeletons at the bottom of the sea, but you might find chariots.

You've been duped and now you're spreading lies. God is angry at you! REPENT OF YOUR DISGUSTING LIES YOU SHEEP BEFORE HE MAKES YOU EAT YOUR OWN CHILDREN

Look who's talking. That's a rather rash claim.

You've promoted lies because you've been lied to, conditioned, and brainwashed. You can't see it because you've been lied to, conditioned, and brainwashed. I've been on both sides. I see the lies, conditioning, and brainwashing now ... and it's hilarious.

Do you know what's hilarious? You. Someone who's supposedly been so committed to Christ, then just stopped. It's like you looked at the logical explanations of the Bible, then looked at the awkward counterattacks, and decided that it would be a good enough excuse to abandon Christianity.

I looked at evidence. Evidence I couldn't see when I was a believer.
You're in that situation now...and JUST LIKE I WAS, you won't believe evidence that contradicts what you've been told from the pulpit, in Sunday School, and anything from an apologist.

Why do apologist exist? Because all evidence contradicts their beliefs. Religion needs "front men" to explain away obvious contradictions.

How many sons did Absalom have?
Absalom had three sons.
2 Samuel 14:27
And unto Absalom there were born three sons, and one daughter, whose name [was] Tamar: she was a woman of a fair countenance.

Absalom had no sons. Note that this was written AFTER the first reference.
2 Samuel 18:18
Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which [is] in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's Place.

You're so gullible. With faith as your foundation, you'll believe ANYTHING. Your god is between your ears.

This is responding to your most recent comment on this line of replies.

There is no contradiction in 2 Samuel. His three sons died before him.

How on earth do you think there is a contradiction there?