Cowboy wisdom, England is no role model

Yes, and if not for Trump's second term, I think the years ahead would have also spelled the finish for the greatness of the United States as well, as leftism wore away at the fabric of this nation like an acid bath. Upvoted.

😂 Pass the bong, mate. Looks like you're having fun.

Btw the British version of the Dems didn't even exist to start with. It was the Conservatives/Tories (equivalent to Reps) and Whigs (basically centrists, except they didn't wear wigs) since before the US even existed as a thing. The Labour Party (closest equivalent to US Dems) wasn't even founded until 1900 and didn't form its first government until a couple of decades later. And since then, it's only been in power a fraction of the time the Tories have.

The decline of the British Empire happened for multiple complex reasons over a long time period as I'm sure you can appreciate. (Turns out fighting in two World Wars can also bankrupt your economy and help speed that up. Who knew? Since colonial powers played a large part in helping the Allies win and countless soldiers died fighting for Europe, this helped lead to independence movements in a lot of former colonies like colonial India, which was a huge part of Britain's imperial power.)

It was also a Conservative PM who got the UK to join the forerunner to the EU, before they eventually left again. One of the top arguments for leaving being (weaponized) claims of mass immigration, especially from Muslim countries.

Fun fact: far from dropping as it was claimed it would, net immigration has actually skyrocketed since the UK left (as in legal immigration of mostly in-demand professionals on work/student visas from Commonwealth countries), as have small boat crossings (irregular migration, or what you might call "illegal immigrants").

This has been driven by various causes but the Syrian Civil War and Arab Spring arguably had a big part to play in creating millions of displaced people. The UK joined the US in military campaigns there. They also destabilized Libya which has now become a key "port" for "migrants" crossing the Med. Small boat crossings to the UK only make up a small fraction of about 5–7% of total immigration figures though. The majority eventually get granted asylum.

The UK is still one of the richest countries on earth (top 10 economy). Still has a veto on the UN Security Council. Still has nukes. Still a NATO member. London is still one of the richest cities on earth which attracts global talent/investment. And while it may have a Muslim mayor (gasp!), the ISIS flag still hasn't been stuck to the flag pole above No. 10.

As for empires, the US Empire will be next, one day. Nothing lasts forever...

PS England & UK are not the same.

Yes, I was having fun. Interesting perspective to be sure but there are a few things that I had issues with. The term democrat here in the USA can also be read as marxist, socialist and even communist, it all leads to the same place. Your versions are no less destructive, no matter what you call them, nation haters always destroy, never build. The other issue was your explanation of why so many radicalized muslims found their way to your shores. No one forced you to take them, stopped your government from cracking down on the violent gangs, the rape gangs or just your garden verity punks. We allow Islam to flourish but draw a hard line of jihadi wantabees and radicals from any group, religion or culture. US based islamic rape gangs do not exist and never will. Our melting pot works well at identifying threats, treads and providing awareness. We also have plenty of room to avoid each other so that also helps. Our legal system allows us to call out troublemakers without fear of arrest. No calls for shiria law and islamic safe zones will make it much past a few wishful thinkers before a hammer drops on their little heads. Our last line of defense is a billion forearms and trillions of rounds of ammunition. We really don't even fear the loss of our legal system. In short order it would all be sorted out. You are right, all empires do fall, and we will eventually but I will be long dead before any group anywhere can have a real impact on the USA's future.

Well that's good to hear. I'm all about having fun. People take life way too seriously and whatever your metaphysical beliefs we're only here for a blink of an eye on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam and all that in a cosmos that's too stupidly vast to ever comprehend, and the nearest galaxy is 2.5 freaking light years away and we'll probably never have the tech to get there (we haven't even left the bloody solar system yet and even that will take another 30,000 freaking years). God's little joke, cos He has a sense of humor even weirder than mine and is clearly the Chief Troll.

Human life can be very long (especially when you're stuck in a job you hate or you're suffering with some horrible illness or in physical or psychic/emotional pain or whatever) but it's also absurdly short in the Grand Scheme of Things and any one of us could have been passengers on that Indian plane crash the other day with literally 10 seconds left to say our prayers before we disappear into oblivion forever (or do we?). Or kids in Gaza or Iran blown to bits in their sleep in an airstrike, or whatever. We shouldn't take a single second for granted. So we might as well not spend our precious moments of consciousness being angry or arguing online with strangers. We'll all be at peace pushing up daisies one day and none of this will matter to us one iota.

Anyway, philosophy aside...

I'm curious about your idea that the Democrat party is somehow synonymous with Marxist ideology. I'm not an expert on US politics, I'll admit. But I wasn't aware even Biden was pushing some kind of Socialist revolution. The UK Labour Party under Starmer certainly isn't. That's one of the main criticisms against them. Champagne Socialists and stuff arguably sucking up to Big Business. He's not exactly a Bolshevik.

The grooming gangs in a few northern English cities is a thing. I'll give you that. Whether it's actually based on real facts remains to be decided. But yes, it's a common RW talking point. If it's genuinely true, then yes, it needs to be fully investigated and any perpetrators brought to justice. I don't think that's a particularly controversial opinion. We don't tolerate pedophile rape gangs or sex trafficking in modern democracies. Anyone guilty of that needs to face the full force of the law and absolutely be brought to justice and punished accordingly. I think you'd find most normal British citizens would agree with that. The UK is not inhabited by barbarians.

Did I say Andromeda was 2.5 light *years* away? Oops. I meant 2.5 MILLION light years. Damn you, Autocorrect.

Anyway, fun fact, Voyager 1, AKA the *fastest object literally ever made by humanity*, launched in 1977, that's been hurtling through space at a speed of 38K mph for the past almost 48 years, is now *close* to reaching the incredible milestone of *drum roll* a single LIGHT DAY from earth.

https://www.iflscience.com/in-november-2026-a-human-made-object-will-reach-a-light-day-from-earth-for-first-time-in-history-79691

Yes. 1 day that it takes light to travel. & it's taken the fastest man-made object in history since 1977 to almost get there.

Oh, & it won't leave the solar system for... wait for it... 30,000 years. Yes, google it, bitches.

Far longer than human civilization has even existed. Then it finally enters deep space. Then it might finally one day reach Proxima Centauri, AKA the nearest star system. Except it won't. Ever. Oh well.

Bc it's not even headed in that direction. It's headed into nowhere. It may well be that millions of years from now when us dumb monkeys have blown ourselves to bits arguing over how big our p**ises are or destroyed all life on earth due to climate change most Trump voters don't believe in bc scientists are all shills for Big Pharma, or blown everything up with nukes, & the earth is a barren wasteland just like Mars, that that little spacecraft will literally be the only evidence humans (or earth) ever existed at all, carrying those little gold plates that Carl Sagan helped write, hurtling into eternity for billions of years. The only trace that life or anything once existed on this little blue-green speck of ours.

The nearest star system is 4 light YEARS away. Not days. Andromeda is the closest galaxy & that's 2.5 million ly away (so effectively impossible for us to ever reach unless we discover worm holes or Star Trek tech or sth). The entire human species hasn't even existed for 2.5 million years, even if we're generous. So even if we'd set off then, we'd only just be arriving now. But guess what? We can't travel at the speed of light. Not even close. At our current fastest speed, it would take trillions of years. Longer than the universe.

So it might as well not even exist because we're never going to get there. Ever.

& that's just one galaxy out of countless trillions. Our entire galaxy is a speck within a speck within a speck. We're atoms. & you're arguing over... PRONOUNS. Stay classy.

Interesting philosophy to be sure. My comment about our democrats is once you stop listening and watch their demands and agenda it is clear that they are closer to full on communism than any system they pretend to follow.

I don't think there is any doubt on the existence of organized rape gangs or with religion is used to gloss over the crimes. It doesn't help that mohammed himself was a pedophile. Culturally, it might be argued that marring and abusing children was considered normal in his day, but we have to judge on modern law. The same crap is used to explain away dozens of armed muslims murdering Christians in their house of worship in Africa. Since muslims are taught that eventually they will murder everyone and islam will rule the world they have not just an excuse but apparently a plan. Right or wrong islam is used to justify violence. No other modern religion is. They best people can do is bring up the past and hunt for similar crimes in a failed attempt to cover up for the criminal acts of modern muslims. You were almost right when you said that the UK is not inhabited by barbarians. You should have mentions it was infected by them.

>No calls for shiria law

The UK does have some Shariah courts, it's true. So does ISRAEL of all places. Google it if you don't believe me. It's on official Israeli govt websites.

But those courts only handle domestic matters like divorce and inheritance and stuff and are still subservient to actual UK law.

>Our last line of defense is a billion forearms and trillions of rounds of ammunition.

See, I would dispute this. But of course I would. I'm not American. Yes, you have guns coming out of your eyeballs and you're all armed to the teeth. Does that make you safer as a society? Yemen also has like 3 guns for every citizen apparently.

How many mass shootings have you all prevented in the last 10 years, out of interest, by having so many guns? Keep your guns. No one is stopping you and we know we can't stop you anyway and can't change your minds. But whether it really makes you safer is highly debatable. Just look at actual studies.

You have mass shootings all the time. Europe and most other developed countries just don't have that. AT ALL. It's extremely unheard of. Like once in a blue moon. Not every month like in the US.

Every time some guy (or person, but let's face it: it's usually young white men lol) flips out and shoots up a school, is one of you there on duty to take them out in seconds before they do any damage? Just face facts. Even armed security guards couldn't stop a lot of them and were shot before they got a chance. Europe and Japan and other developed countries don't have this problem because they DON'T HAVE GUNS. And it's very hard to get one unless you're a farmer or join a shooting club. It's just not backed up by actual evidence, sorry. Yes, we'd love to believe that if some nutjob lets loose you'd whip your pistol out and take them out with perfect aim and save all good humans. But reality and statistics simply don't back you up. Honestly, I wish they did. But they don't. You're not all military-trained snipers with perfect aim, sorry.

Guns are f**king dangerous. If you want a safer society, reduce gun access. Like Japan. If someone goes mad with a knife they might cause damage, but the difference between that and an automatic weapon is like night and day. We know it's baked into your sacred Constitution so you won't ever change that, so whatever. Because God forbid the government becomes tyrannical and stuff, right? But thankfully it's not even a thing we worry about in most of the developed world. It's a YOU problem.

Your lack of understanding the American gun culture is not a surprise. Many Americans also fall victim to our fake media and faked studies. The hard truth is the murder rate in the US is lower than many realize and firearm deaths are not at the top of how these deaths occur. Even cities like Chicago that stay at the top of our violent weekly murder statistics is actually a very safe city except for a few small circles of gang-controlled properties. Violence especially violence involving firearms outside of those areas are rare. We also have a very different gun culture between our major cities and outside of them. The USA is massive; in the time it takes to drive across England you cannot drive across most of our states. Texas alone takes two days to cover, and it is our second largest. Depending on where you live outside of our cities you can encounter bears, wolves, moose, snakes, large cats and a lot more dangerous animals, much more likely in injury you than an armed human. I carry every day, there are creatures on my property than can hurt me, my children or my livestock.

American's own weapons for recreational shooting, competition, collector value, self-defense and dozens of other reasons, not trusting our government and waiting for an invasion are not really high on our list. From antelope to prairie dogs, we have shooters making long range shots they consider easy from coast to coast. My father and I shot rifles every Saturday from about age eight until I joined the service, by the time I joined I had easily shot 80K or more rounds. A brick of 22 caliber each, weekly for 10 plus years, not counting all the others we used to hunt, plink and just hit cans with. If I could see it, I could hit it if it was in range and yet none of us ever considered shooting humans. Granted not everyone grew up like I did. There was a clear line between rural, and city raised trainees. We taught them as much about how to shoot as our military instructors.

You mentioned active shooters, that is another issue that tends to be misunderstood. Most of the last ones were gender confused teens on mind altering drugs. Also, almost all active shooters are taken out by someone armed in the targeted group. It is actually a rarity for armed officers to take out an active shooter, more so if it takes place outside of a major city. As I have mentioned most Americans will never be anywhere near a murder scene, active shooter or other.