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They can, actually.

You're free to take your chances with the Covid virus btw and test your "natural immunity".

Natural immunity worked great for Native Americans when Europeans arrived with Smallpox and wiped out half the continent.

If only the natives had lifted more weights...

Natural immunity works great if you have supplements that boost your immune system and clean out your organs, and also things that change your immune pathways to fight covid better. Just taking aspirin or Tylenol had a huge effect.

I mean, having a healthy diet, eating "clean", doing exercise, cutting back on alcohol and smoking, and generally being healthy, are all good ofc. Taking some supplements to boost immunity is also possibly a good idea. And more power to you if you do live that way, because that means you're healthier than I am haha. So keep doing that. (I'm being totally sincere here btw. No sarcasm intended whatsoever. Be healthy. I'm not gonna criticize that. You're doing better than me.)

I don't dispute that for a moment.

But we're talking about deadly infectious diseases here. "Natural immunity" will get you so far. But the human body is not invincible. Humans aren't immune to every illness. If we were, disease would have never posed an issue throughout our history and countless people wouldn't have been wiped out by epidemics. Our natural immune system is incredible, yes, but it can only handle so much. Until we developed vaccines and discovered penicillin, etc. You can be the healthiest bodybuilder on earth living on a raw-food organic diet, but if you catch Ebola, you can still die. That's the problem. And that's where medicine comes in. (There were even a couple of famous cases of anti-vaxxer influencers saying this kind of stuff who DIED of Covid. I find that tragic. When a vaccine could possibly have saved their life.)

If there is an Ebola outbreak in your community, what do you think will protect you more: taking supplements and being healthy, or taking a vaccine?

Tylenol/Aspirin may lessen symptoms, yes, but they have no effect on your immune system. They only work on symptoms. You have a headache or hangover or flu? Tylenol reduces the symptoms, yes. Does it actually help you body fight the infection/fix the problem in any way? No. Tylenol doesn't actually fight infection or strengthen your immune response.

NSAIDs and Immune Modulation (Marcianò et al., 2023)
Aspirin may reduce proinflammatory cytokines (e.g., IL-6, TNF-α), potentially mitigating cytokine storms in severe viral infections like COVID-19.

A 2021 study showed high-dose vitamin D therapy improved inflammatory markers in COVID-19 patients without side effects.

Some studies suggest vitamin C with quercetin may have synergistic antiviral and anti-inflammatory effects, with a clinical trial showing improved recovery at doses of 250–500 mg quercetin and 500–3,000 mg vitamin C daily.

A trial combining zinc, quercetin, and vitamins C, D, and E reported a low rate of flu-like symptoms and no COVID-19 cases in the supplemented group

A large observational study found a 14% lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection in women taking probiotics

The same large observational study reported a 12% lower SARS-CoV-2 infection risk in women taking omega-3s

Again, taking vitamins may help strengthen your immune system. No issue.

Taking vitamins or Omega-3 or whatever is good for your health. No issue.

Eating healthy good. Great. Exercising regularly. Great.

But when faced with a deadly infection like Ebola, there just aren't the studies backing up your claims, I'm afraid.

Millions of healthy people die every year from these diseases despite having "natural immunity".

Wtf does "natural immunity" even mean anyway? Human die from disease. Our immune system isn't invincible to every single illness. That's where medicine comes in.

I actually agree with you in that vaccine mandates are extremely controversial. If even ONE person is going to die to save 100 million, I still would oppose that, actually. I struggle with that on a moral level. We save 100 million but we deliberately kill 1 person who is allergic to the vaccine or sth? Even that is not good enough for me. So yes, I see what you're talking about. But that doesn't mean I reject vaccines.

But I'd take my chances with vaccines any day against snake-oil salesmen selling vitamins.

I showed the studies bro. Some show that taking a variety of supplements stopped covid 100%.

That's interesting. Can you link to them again please?

I'm not disputing that taking supplements is potentially good for you. I AM disputing that a few vitamins can protect you against deadly infectious diseases like Ebola, TB and Covid (even if you think Covid is just the "flu", but I literally know young healthy people who died or almost died because of this "flu". I've had the flu. And I've had Covid (post-vax). And My God, I don't know what kind of flu everyone else had but I can say from personal experience that Covid was NOTHING like the flu. Not even close. I don't even understand why people use that as a comparison. If anything, it's closer to pneumonia or sth. But it's nothing like the flu.)

The FDA Is Finally Adding Heart Risk Info to COVID Vaccines.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an updated warning for Pfizer and Moderna’s COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, including new safety data regarding myocarditis and pericarditis. The June 25 safety communication highlights that males aged 12–24 remain at the highest risk, with at least 27 known cases per million doses during the 2023–2024 vaccination period.

MRI scans from a government-funded study revealed that heart abnormalities often persist for months in vaccine-associated myocarditis patients. The FDA admitted that the long-term consequences of these injuries remain “not known.” The updated warning language was required to be added to the Prescribing Information and Fact Sheets for both Comirnaty (Pfizer) and Spikevax (Moderna), including their Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) versions for children.