history repeating itself...just hard done by people searching for a better life & treasure carrying weapons and revenge and hate

Asylum seekers are not arriving on UK beaches with machetes ffs.

What are you smoking?

90% are picked up by UK Border Force the moment they land and taken into custody. It's true that 10% do land clandestinely and disappear. Yes, that's a problem.

And most people acknowledge the migrant "crisis" is a problem.

But to compare it to the Viking invasions is just lazy, at best. The Vikings came to invade, as an organized military force. Asylum seekers are not arriving on boats with weapons and raiding, pillaging and burning English villages. They're risking their lives to leave their families and everything behind, often paying people smugglers thousands, to arrive with nothing. It's a really lazy comparison, putting it extremely mildly.

They're people arriving tired, starving and unarmed, on an inflatable boat.

Some invasion. And plenty of them have died en route btw.

A lot are coming from countries that (surprise) the UK/US were directly militarily involved in, like Syria Afghanistan, Libya.

Maybe if the US/UK stopped bombing people we wouldn't create so many refugees in the first place, but what do I know?

Lots are also coming from Albania and Vietnam. It's true that that's different. We haven't bombed Albania or Vietnam. So it's complicated. And I don't have all the answers to every situation. (Omg that means I must be full of shit right? I just don't know and I'm honest enough to admit that.)

But to claim it's an "invasion" is just absurd.

You mean because some "immigrants" who make it to the UK get a machete and commit crimes proves they're all coming with machetes?

Do you think those incidents happen every week?

Anyway, I'd like to see how'd you react when one minute you're working as an engineer, and the next, your home is destroyed in an airstrike, and you leave everything and everyone you've ever known, spend months crossing a continent, risk your life crossing an ocean, pay some scumbag smuggler half your life savings, spend up to a year in some rat-infested hellhole camp (I've been there and can confirm the rats are big), and finally make it to some foreign country, to then spent up to 2 years in some hotel waiting for your asylum claim to be processed because of a backlog, during which time you can't legally work or do anything, until you finally get refugee status.

And then in the meantime have millions of rightwing armchair warriors online tell you that you're just a lazy benefits scrounger, terrorist, rapist, or whatever. Try it.

Theres plenty rocking up with nothing and getting weapons when they arrive dude.

your government needs to create an environment where wages cover 2-4 children households and promote BRITISH WOMEN have 2-4 children so theres no reliance on immigrants.

You're actually right that there is a problem with the the UK birth rate (as in a number of developed countries). People simply aren't having enough kids and combined with longer lifespans this means the population is ageing. Japan has it the worst, possibly. The population is slowly declining (average age increasing) and this is a ticking time bomb. You are actually correct.

And I actually agree with you that wages in a normal full-time job should absolutely cover enough to support a family with 3 (or more) kids, like in the "old days". But here we are.

But these are big socioeconomic and global changes that have been brewing for decades and not purely the result of a few asylum seekers on dinghies (many of which are fleeing conflict from countries that WE were directly involved in, so maybe tell your loony president to stop bombing people so much, and it might help).

So yes, our population is ageing and that's gonna cause big problems down the line. So one possible conspiracy is that the "globalists" are allowing mass immigration to compensate for this, from countries that typically have larger families.

That's a whole debate in itself. Anyway, it's arguably a big problem. The population is ageing/fertility is declining. So that needs fixing.

As for your comment about promoting "British women" having kids. Well, I don't know what that's even supposed to mean. You mean white Celtic women who can trace their lineage back 1000 years or some bullshit? So basically Welsh people? Or British women pre-1900? I don't even know and frankly I don't want to know. I don't have time for any ethnonationalist bullshit, sorry. The UK is a very diverse country and has been invaded countless times. And I don't have time for any weird racial ideas and have better things to do. So I don't even know what you want to mean by "British women", because God only knows what that means. (If you want to be more pedantic, I guess "British" would mean Celtic and not Anglo-Saxon. So that rules out most people descended from the Germanic or even Norse invaders. But anyway I don't have time for that weird racial nonsense because this is 2025.)

But anyway yes, I agree we have a problem. We're below the population replacement rate. It's a problem across a lot of developed countries. And yes, I actually think governments should provide financial incentives to families to have children, along with maternity leave and other stuff. (But obviously not in some Nazi way.)

Vikings were just asylum seekers mate.

No they absolutely weren't. And you know full well they weren't. The Vikings weren't seeking asylum.

The Vikings weren't fleeing persecution from Norway (or whatever it was called at the time) or fleeing their country. You and I know both know that's a lazy comparison. A marauding army of professional armed well-trained soldiers in longboats arriving for the purpose of military conquest is not the same as a bunch of unarmed hungry people floating on an overcrowded dinghy risking their lives (many of which have actually drowned btw), and you well know it isn't.

Stop being silly and disingenuous. Stop falling for populist idiotic rhetoric. You're better than that.

What is going on when your NATIVE TOUNGUE IS THE MINORITY LANGUAGE IN YOUR CAPITAL CITY....thats your CAPITAL city mate.....CAPITAL CITY....and they dont speak the native language.....and English the Language is the minority language...tof course its not LIKE the vikings dude..but this is absolutely an invasion, its just a LOT more cunning, shrewed and sophisticated.

It's not the native tongue.

Anyway, English isn't even the official de facto legal language of England. (Google it. Only Welsh has legal status. English isn't actually the official legal language of the UK. They never bothered making it one.)

But that's beside the point. There are around 300 languages spoken in London (800 in New York). But everyone knows English is the main one and everyone speaks it. Everything is conducted in English. It's not a minority language and you're just plain wrong. Just because a bunch of immigrants don't speak English doesn't mean English isn't the main language spoken across the land and used for every single practical purpose in all aspects of UK life. Have you even been to the UK or Europe and do you know the first thing about UK culture? Or are you talking out of your f**king arse?

There are English schools IN LONDON :> there are schools in London where English is the minority language, particularly in inner-city areas. A significant number of schools in London, especially in inner London boroughs, have a majority of pupils whose first language is not English

Yeah, big deal. New York also has 800 languages. The most linguistically diverse place on earth outside of Papua f**king New Guinea.

London has hundreds of languages. That doesn't mean it's a f**king Islamic caliphate. Most Londoners would laugh you out the pub if you said this kind of stuff. Have you ever even left the US? If you've lived in London then I'll revise my opinion and retract my statement. But if you haven't then with all due respect maybe don't make sweeping polemical political statements on countries you know absolutely jack shit about.

these asylum seekers go into areas in London that dont even speak English mate....yeah ok...you are right looking for a better life. But unlike the Vikings and the Ayatollah of Iran they are taking over MASSIVE parts of London without the massacres (YET, judging by the Bob Vylan concert, YET). They are invading, but in a subtle way, more like a Trojan Horse.

Bob Vylan is a band literally no one's even heard of (I had to f**king Google them this week) talking shit shouting death to the IDF (whatever tf that means). Who even cares what they say? (Kill all Israeli soldiers? Most Israelis have to do conscription, so that's tantamount to calling for violence against most military-age Israeli citizens, AKA half the country). No sane person takes that seriously. (At least, no sane person outside of their loony drugged-up fan club at Glasto.)

Who gives a flying fck what some shitty obscure band literally no one's ever heard of that makes shit "music" thinks? Let's attack (or even "kill"? all Israelis because Bob Vylan says so? The world is full of idiots. Thankfully, we don't generally decide global foreign policy based on what some moron chants on Glastonbury Main Stage. We're better than that.

So you can ignore them. It certainly doesn't represent the UK as a whole. Most British people literally have zero clue who tf they even are.

No one is "invading" anything ffs. Stop reading populist bilge like GB News, Fox News or whatever other absurd populist rightwing nonsense you're getting your info from. If you want to know the truth, get on a plane and actually f**king go to London and see for yourself.

Yes, London/UK have problems with race, immigration, crime and all the rest of it, and that's not to be dismissed. That's the honest truth.

But they don't literally have gangs of Islamist nutjobs running around burning stuff about to turn the UK into an Islamic state and are not about the raise the ISIS flag over Buckingham Palace and force all British women to wear "burkas".

F**k me. Whatever you're smoking, I want some. Because no joke it sounds fun.

this is just London alone Metropolitan police force random search and seisure in 1 year :> The Metropolitan Police Service have been able to provide the following information in relation to weapon seizures following stop and search.

There were 4,816 weapon seizures, following stop and search including:

1,001 Kitchen and other knives, 287 ‘Rambo’ knives, 182 Hunting knives, 295 Stanley knives, 860 Lock knives, 233 Machetes, 70 ‘Zombie’ knives, 36 Swords and various other pointed / bladed articles or weapons. They also seized 99 firearms.

Look, London has a problem with knife crime. YES. I fully agree with you there. Lots of people talk about that. (Also, London is not the whole UK. Plenty of the rest of the UK would crucify you for that off the bat btw because they hate London. London might be the capital and have a big chunk of the UK population, but it DOES NOT represent the entire UK culture. So be careful. That's just the first point, assuming you've ever been anywhere near Europe.)

But to extend that to claim that it is specifically caused by immigrants (and even more specifically, "illegal" Muslim immigrants arriving on dinghies) is such a stretch that again I want what you're smoking. (Seriously, how much per gram, bro? I want in.)

You didn't break down those stats by race or anything.

You're from the US, right? You come from a country where any idiot can walk into a gun store and walk out with a lethal firearm in 10 minutes, right? Where you have mass shootings basically every week? (That is literally unheard of in most Europe, and also multiple other developed countries round the world. Like, literally unheard of. That's a US problem. It doesn't even f**king EXIST for most of the rest of the civilized world. So I would just say be VERY careful before you start accusing other countries of stuff. We're not all batshit insane like you are with your sacred Second Amendment "freedom" bullshit we all know you'll never give up. We get to live our entire lives in safety without the fear of some nutjob shooting up a school or our party. It just doesn't even exist. So just watch it, mate. We think you're all insane, btw.)

And you're lecturing Europe on knife crime and trying to claim that the UK is being overrun by Islamist nutjobs just because the police seize a lot of knives and machetes and stuff? Maybe get your own crazy house in order, no offence?

Yes, London does have a problem with knife crime. But London is not the whole UK anyway. The knives are not all being seized from asylum seekers who came on dinghies. And no, Islamists are not about to take over the UK and declare Shariah law.

Get a f**king grip. And tell all the other nutters on this site to do the same. Also, go and touch grass or something. Sorry to be so blunt and so aggressive. But this stuff really pisses me off. Get a life fgs.

do you understand that the migrant situation is not organic? Its RUN by the Russians and Chinese and Iran? Its part of the plan to keepEurope and UK occupied while Russia invades Ukraine , its to hold and destabilize Europe so Russia and Belerus can win their war, whiel China invades the pacific and Iran was MEANT to deal with Israel...do you understand that OBAMA , mr Muslim Brotherhood, is the reason this migrant stuff is happening? Its been SHOCKING how EU has reacted to Putins war....shockign how useless they are. The migrant situation is facilitated by foreign actors wanting to destabilize Europe and the UK. The EU and our media are DANGEROUSLY USELESS man

the migrant situation is meant to collapse your system so Russia can take Ukraine....and China can take The Pacific after taiwan and Iran was MEANT to take Israel, but its failed so far

you have a SETTLER situation iin LONDON no different to the American settlers.....

No offence, dude, and I don't want to be too rude, but are you even British? Wtf do you even know about London or the the UK? Do you have any idea what it's actually like on the streets of London? Have you ever even been to the the UK (or Europe)? Or have you only read some hysterical extremist nonsense on social media?

They're not running around waving the ISIS flag in Westminster and chopping people's heads off. Sorry to disappoint you.

Hang on. This is an interesting comparison.

London does have high immigration, yes. I think something like 40% of Londoners were born outside the UK, making it the UK city with the highest proportion of foreign-born residents. (Not sure whether that includes (ex-)Commonwealth countries or British Overseas Territories or UK army bases etc or not, but anyway they mostly weren't born on UK soil (apparently). So yes, go to London and you'll find it's a very mixed place & you'll meet people with roots from all over the world & around 300 languages are spoken there.

https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/languages-0

(But English is still the main language for all administrative purposes, even though as I believe I pointed out to you earlier it's not the actual *de jure* (ie "official" legal) language of the UK. It's just the "de facto" official language (ie everyone just accepts it on a practical level because they all know it's the main language of the country). The UK doesn't even have an "official" written constitution like the US famously does. It's all based on case law, acts of Parliament, legal "precedent" & hundreds of smaller documents & rulings (so it does *technically*/arguably still have a constitution; it's just not codified in a single written document). Closest thing was Magna Carta and that's like 1000 years old, although one or two of its rules actually still apply. What can I say? The British are a bit lazy lol.

Anyway London is the capital, after all, & has around 9 million inhabitants out of a total UK pop of just shy of 70 million (so around 13%) & most of the best jobs, so it's understandable that it's where a lot of people want to move to. It's not exactly denying being "cosmopolitan" (ie a world city).

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

Is it similar to American settlers though? Or, in your words, "no different"? 🤔 Who is doing the settling, exactly? Muslim immigrants? Immigrants in general? (Do Aussies and Irish people count lol? There's quite a few of them in London too. Are they trying to forcibly spread Guinness Law, make St Patrick's Day a national holiday, or force everyone to have barbecues instead of eat fish 'n' chips? Tbf, Paddy's Day practically is a national holiday in the UK anyway lol, since almost no one celebrates St George's Day, if they can even remember when it is. FYI it's *usually* 23 April.)

Th ereason why i used vikings is the migration has been hicked by foreign militaries since 2020. Obama the muslim brotherhood supporter dropped the ball in Syria, mass migration that originally EU and America thought it a good idea, but now its migration military FLOOD operation facilitated by China, Iran, Russia, and Belerus and in America Mexico and Venezuela while opening up trojan horse cities, Americas most profitable cities Communnist Karen bass runs LA, its wrecking LA and Hollywood, normally used as an American propaganda arm, now you see the new Captain America hating on America right? so all the activist groups and Communsit groups and foreign militaries have joined forces to create a minority destabilizing force.....its exactly what MAO did....join all minority groups together to take ove rthe governmetn in China...its all been done before. SO i used Vikings..because indirectly....its a miliary operation FUNDED by foreign actors to overwhelm your capital city and your welfare services...

I mean, there's a lot to unpack in this lol.

Obama supporting the Muslim Brotherhood? The MB is mainly an Egyptian thing. If I'm not mistaken, Obama was born in Hawaii (AKA US soil) to Kenyan parents. Kenya apparently has around an 85% Christian population, with about 10% Muslim. Obama himself identifies as a Protestant Christian. He just has a sort of Muslim-sounding name, hence the confusion, maybe. I'm not aware his administration was either *particularly* pro- or anti- the MB? He just agreed to maintain diplomatic relations after the Egyptian Revolution. I don't think he specifically funded them or anything, other than continuing regular US aid to Egypt which has been going on for years.

I'll give you the point re Belarus. Apparently even credible people acknowledge Belarus was up to some naughty business and trying to push "migrants" into the EU to destabilize it. And we know Putin's Russia would probably love to see the EU (and NATO) break apart and have one less powerful bloc on his doorstep to worry about.

Can't comment on "Captain America", I'm afraid. I don't keep up with all your comic books lol so you'd know much better than me.

Welfare is a big topic and you wouldn't be the only one to talk about that, trust me. It's a major topic of conversation across a lot of European countries. It's not just about Muslims or immigrants though. It's also about disabled people and so-called "benefits scroungers". Benefits in a UK context means like social welfare/security money for people who can't work (or claim they can't work due to disability or mental illness 👀). Ikr? Lazy bastards. Back in my day, we went down the mines and paid our taxes, crutches or no crutches! Bunch of snowflakes.

Immigrants are also taking our blue-collar jobs while simultaneously refusing to work and claiming child tax credit (money you get for your kids). So-called Schrodinger's Immigrant. It's even a meme lol. Talk about sneaky. Yes, some people do arguably abuse the system and sometimes apparently shamelessly (or just to go viral or get paid to be on TV – who knows?), flippancy aside. There are whole families that haven't worked in generations, if you watch some documentaries. But it's a bit more nuanced than just "immigrants are coming over here to live off welfare".

But TL;DR: No one is landing on British shores in longboats with swords attempting to overthrow the government and pillaging and burning villages, or kidnapping British slaves to take back to Norway.