What people don't take into account, is that one of these countries have nuclear weapons, and the other doesn't. One of these countries has sworn to wipe the other country off the planet, the other has been playing defense for years. not the country with the nuclear weapons is done playing defense and could wipe the other off the planet if they wanted, but they don't. If the country that doesn't currently have nuclear weapons were to acquire one, they would use it without hesitation. if that doesn't sink in for people, then they need to bow out of the conversation.