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Power to the people and by that I mean "to the governemnt" | SOCIALISM IS WHERE EVERYONE WORKS FOR EACH OTHER AND SHARES WHAT THEY HAVE AND TAKES CARE OF THE POOR! WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THE FREE MARKET! YOU CAN BUY, SELL, AND WORK WITH WHOEVER WILL DO BUSINESS WITH YOU! NO! WE CAN'T TRUST FREE MARKETS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE! THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY POOR! IF YOU DON'T TRUST PEOPLE TO SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE WHEN THEY'RE FREE THEN WHY WOULD YOU TRUST THE SAME PEOPLE TO WIELD ENOUGH POWER TO FORCE EVERYONE TO SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE? BECAUSE I WANT MONEY WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK FOR IT AND I'LL USE THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM OTHERS IF I HAVE TO! | image tagged in memes,american chopper argument,political meme,socialism,communism,leftists | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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if the free market is so great, then why did Musk try to kill the CFPB? also why do 10 men have more money than 99% of the population? if they actually were helpful to the average citizen why is our planet dying?
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If socialism is so great, why did Mao Ze Dong kill 65 million people? Why does it make so many dictatorships that people have no power to stop? In the free market, everyone has personal liberty and also personal responsibility. In socialism, the government as absolute control and the people have none.
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he wasn't a socialist. also that is not what socialism is, it is a system of government where the people control the means of production, not wealthy businessmen. the whole point is to make sure that workers can't be abused. it's not about the government controlling your land or property, it's about protecting basic human rights like "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" the reason why people this of socialism like what you said is because ever since the cold war communist and socialist have been used interchangeably when they are very different systems.
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That's not what socialism is, that's a cute-sounding list on intentions but that tells me nothing about what socialism actually is. Socialism is the abolition of private property and the private means of production. And the collectivization of all economic decision-making power under the control of a small group of central planners.
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and do you have a source for that claim? I actually read Marx so I know what socialism is.
1 up, 18h,
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Um Yes. The source is Marx.
0 ups, 16h,
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when he was pushing for communism, which unlike socialism has almost never worked on a large scale
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Just like socialism which has also never worked on a scale of any size. Whereas free market economies work no matter the size of the scale. When people are free to pursue theirs and their families interests free of interference prosperity follows. That's not a matter of opinion either, that's a fact.
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Also, the nations which are contributing the most pollution currently are either communist or formerly communist states due to the lack of advancement while the nations contributing the least amount are all free market economies.
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read my above comment. also that isn't true, the USA has produced over 500 billion tonnes of Co2 since 1850 compared to china's a little under 300 billion tonnes since 1850
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Lol sure pal. What's your source for that? China? Yeah they're totally reliable. Anyways, that has nothing to do with socialism, which is the abolition of private property and the private means of production as according to Karl Marx. Who had never held a job outside of editing newspaper propaganda and was also not an economist. Or a statistician. And also mooched off of his parents, in-laws, and Engls for his entire life.
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The graph from the New York Post I used as my source. also the reason I brought it up was because you claimed that free market capitalist countries produced the least pollutants. also only recently did china pass the us in pollutants because almost all of American manufacturing jobs were moved to China because FREE MARKET CAPITALISTS found out that they could pay less AND treat workers worse. free market capitalism is why all the manufacturing jobs were moved to China.
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This is an outdated graph then, because all current data shows that the largest contributor is China. Also, Those are some scary looking bars. Spooky. But um....how come it doesn't show exact numerical data? What's the data of emission per-capita? How come it only goes back to 1850 while trying to be a huge, general claim of analysis over an area of space as large as EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE? A space that large should be measuring per hundred thousand years to demonstrate real change. So how come it doesn’t show how emissions have changed over time? What if we are currently in a carbon drought as compared to say a hundred thousand years ago? This graph with its short time frame would lead an average person to believe that that we are in some kind of C02 crisis. It also doesn’t seem to account for emissions relative to the economic standing of a country or land area; would't that be kind of important important if we're all going to vote away our power and wealth and autonomy to the same people scaring us with misleading graphs like this?
0 ups, 12h
Yes, I did bring it up, because it's true. And sure lot of jobs moved to China a ..... communist state. That doesn't tell me anything about the nature of free markets except that manufacturing can be freely relocated from one country to another when both parties are consenting. Sure, free markets come with drawbacks (ie people losing jobs and having to find new ones due to the volatility of the market). However, those are considerable preferable compared to the poverty and starvation that is common in socialist and communist states.
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CO2 doesn’t create a greenhouse gas. That’s impossible, absurd, and unthinkable. Why? Because it’s heavier than air. Pour it out of a beaker and it falls to the ground.
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If we reset all people down to 0 property and wealth we would, in a few years, have very wealthy people and very poor people again.
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SOCIALISM IS WHERE EVERYONE WORKS FOR EACH OTHER AND SHARES WHAT THEY HAVE AND TAKES CARE OF THE POOR! WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THE FREE MARKET! YOU CAN BUY, SELL, AND WORK WITH WHOEVER WILL DO BUSINESS WITH YOU! NO! WE CAN'T TRUST FREE MARKETS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE! THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY POOR! IF YOU DON'T TRUST PEOPLE TO SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE WHEN THEY'RE FREE THEN WHY WOULD YOU TRUST THE SAME PEOPLE TO WIELD ENOUGH POWER TO FORCE EVERYONE TO SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE? BECAUSE I WANT MONEY WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK FOR IT AND I'LL USE THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM OTHERS IF I HAVE TO!