Would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear?

112 views • 8 upvotes • Made by calronmoonflower 1 day ago in politics
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Sobrmn
3 ups, 8h, 2 replies
regularfeller
3 ups, 8h, 1 reply
😄👍🇺🇸. Great meme!
Sobrmn
2 ups, 6h, 1 reply
I stole it, but in my defense, people do say I have great taste in stolen memes.
regularfeller
2 ups, 5h, 1 reply
I have not noticed.



I usually notice mods using alt accounts harassing users.
Sobrmn
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
Latest tactic? "Fake" account insulting the f**k out of you to get you to engage,when you do?. You get a timer, and they "delete" the "perp's" comment too. 

e.g.



PennyLane20 ups, 4h

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~~~ ➽ → 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐦𝐮𝐜𝐡 𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬, 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐦𝐮𝐜𝐡 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐝𝐨 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞‽

ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ ཀ༼ༀ༽ཫ

It’s the Gulf of MEXICO… not Gulf of America,
regularfeller
0 ups, 1h
That would be upsetting.



Sounds like ol Drew's work.
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CompassionKitty
0 ups, 7h, 1 reply
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 6h, 1 reply
Then why add the prefix "trans".
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MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 2 replies
regularfeller
1 up, 5h, 1 reply
It's attention seeking behavior andy.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 1 reply
Ah yes, I love to seek attention by using adjectives that describe me.
regularfeller
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
It's attention seeking behavior.



"Look at me" "Look at me".



If it were not one would just say, "I am woman hear me roar" or "I am man, somebody tell that chick to shaddup"



I get it.



You deny science in your disagreement.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
I simply stated that using adjectives to describe oneself is not "attention-seeking behavior"



I guess everyone gets driver's licenses to fulfill their need for attention then. /s
regularfeller
0 ups, 2h
I simply restate, neither women nor men require a descriptive when one is stating his or her sex/gender.



Show me a license that says "trans" anything.



It is to garner attention.



Just like ol Senator Green, he could have just said he was censured because he was a man. 



He added the "black" adjective to gain attention.



My alias could have been feller, but I added the adjective regular to distinguish me from any other fellers.



One could argue that this is to garner attention for myself.



Go ahead, argue that.



And I will say that you are finally correct about something.



😁 Buddy!



You probably didn't hear, but I'm one of y'all now!



Well, one of y'all as in a leftist liberal democrat hell bent on stirring things up and making tidal waves to refill the DC swamp!
calronmoonflower
1 up, 5h, 1 reply
Those are not being used to identify gender. A is A, so no prefix is needed to identify an A an A.

If you need to add a prefix to properly define something, that means it modifies the definition.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 2 replies
Why is there a difference between gender, race, and age when it comes to prefixes?



So by your logic (a prefix modifies the definition), a short person is not a true (modified) person?
regularfeller
1 up, 5h, 2 replies
There are no different races.



Humans are all one race - it's science!



Do you mean ethnicity?
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 4h
Those are generally used interchangeably when it comes to humans.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h
I meant race as a categorization of people based on physical features. 



Yes, I supposed ethnicity would be a batter term in this discussion.
calronmoonflower
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
A transracial person would be the same as identifying an ethnicity that doesn't match their biology.

Transagist people would identify as younger and older than their physical age.

A transexual person identifies in a way that doesn't match their biological sex.

Trans is a prefix that modifies the definition, such as Transavia mean the land beyond the forest. And Pennsylvania mean Penn's forest. If you missed is sylvania means "forest land" or "place in the woods".



If you truly believe that transwomen are women, just call them women. Adding tans points out that that they are different from women, and in very few circumstances would it matter.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 2 replies
There's no evidence for transracial people existing.



There's no evidence for transagist people existing.



There is evidence for transexual (gender) people existing.



When talking about trans people online, there's a need to specify that they're trans because of things specifically involving them (law changes)
regularfeller
0 ups, 1h
There is no need, there is no law change requiring attention seeking behavior.
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 2 replies
https://adoptioncouncil.org/article/learning-from-the-lived-experience-of-two-transracial-adoptees/



https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/transage-activists-now-claim-age-is-a-social-construct-just-predicted-happen



Some people really don't age physically or mentally at the normal rate. It's been widely excepted for longer than transgenderism. This isn't even referring to the new idea that age is just a social construct.



Nice of you stepping away from what the words mean to dodge the point. And being wrong on top of that to boot.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 3h
Yes, but these people aren't physically older time-wise.



We'll come back to this in 2060 and see if anything has happened with space-time travel.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
An adult with a learning disability is not a 10-year-old. Some random article saying age is a social construct doesn't make it true. I mean, one of the first rules we all learned when first using the internet is, "Not everything anyone says is true".
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h
I didn't say learning disability, some people don't age mentally at the average normal rate. This is often related to poor impulse control and lack moral development. Biologically and adult but needing some more time to become mentally and adult. lack of socialization can cause this too.



Some people don't physically age properly either, some not at all and others too fast.

In fact child birth can affect a women's biological aging, at first it is speed up when caring and then rebounds to be less than before pregnancy.



A rather unusual case is that astronauts have time pass slower when in space due to relativity, but that's barely noticeable as of yet. Maybe some day we'll have people that are technically hundreds of years old and in really only live a few decades.
regularfeller
2 ups, 8h, 1 reply
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 7h, 1 reply
Bears prefer other men. :P
regularfeller
2 ups, 7h
😄
HarveyHolmes
2 ups, 6h, 1 reply
I don’t think the ladies thought about the eating part. The ladies who dye their hair pink or green or blue may be safe. Bears may think they are Toxic.
calronmoonflower
3 ups, 6h
Bears are attracted to bright colors, they like blue and yellow the best. The only poison mammal I can think of is a bird from the Amazon.
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MrMcMemer
0 ups, 6h, 2 replies
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 5h, 1 reply
Sexism and the pattern of thinking that reinforces racism affects everyone. Nice strawman though.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 1 reply
How is it sexist to not be angry about a woman choosing a bear over a man in a theoretical (fake) dilemma?
calronmoonflower
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
It fits squarely in the definition.



sexism, "Sexism is discrimination or prejudice based on a person's sex or gender. It can include negative attitudes, beliefs, or treatment of people based on their sex. Sexism can affect people of all genders, but it's most often directed at women and girls. "



As a rather large man with a big frame, I get discrimination and fear from both men and women because of that alone, rather than my actions. It's not all negative, but it is sometimes noticeable.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
The dilemma wasn't specifying "a rather large man", it was just "a man". 



People who choose bear are not basing their answers on the physical appearance of a man, they only know that it's a man.
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Yes, it could be a tiny weakling man and a female body builder, but men in generally are naturally larger and stronger than women. But nice pinpricking to dodge the point. It would be even worse if they man was on the lower end of the power dynamic because that drastically lowers the chances of assault from the man.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
To quote you, "It would be even worse if they man was on the lower end of the power dynamic because that drastically lowers the chances of assault from the man."



You're saying it would be worse if the man was weaker and had a lower chance of assaulting the woman?
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
It would mean that the decision is based not on any reasonably based fear, but more on them being male alone. It makes is more a clear cut example of sexism that someone would risk death over a situation that made them uncomfortable with little danger.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Both situations have the possibility where the person ends up dead.



Don't reduce rape to, "a situation that made them uncomfortable with little danger."
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Walking outside can leave anyone ending up dead, so can staying indoors. You completely overlooked the risk assessment and went to the autorape strawman.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 3h
This dilemma always implied that there was a risk. It was just asking people if they were going to risk it with the man or bear.



We've been discussing rape and SA for a while now. It's not something I just brought up randomly.
regularfeller
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
I agree.



There is medication available to treat that woman.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Ah yes, let women be traumatized and just hand them medication to cope with it instead of trying to prevent the trauma that caused the issue. /s
regularfeller
0 ups, 1h
There was no traumatic event that took place in your hypothetical, just a description of a paranoid woman.



There are medications to help with that psychological issue.
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CompassionKitty
0 ups, 7h, 1 reply
fumatore_di_sigaro
3 ups, 7h, 1 reply
You think all men ignore the word no?
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CompassionKitty
0 ups, 7h, 1 reply
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 7h, 3 replies
So you see all men as potential rapists, how sexist of you.
regularfeller
1 up, 4h
Not all...illegal immigrant rapists are protected as though an endangered species.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 6h, 3 replies
I mean, technically everyone is a potential rapist. 



People don't understand the point of the debate. If people are getting offended that a woman would rather not be with them, they're the ones that are the issue.
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 6h, 1 reply
It not no one, it's man or bear. the second presents a greater danger.
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MrMcMemer
0 ups, 6h, 1 reply
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 5h, 1 reply
The choice is man not murder seeking to kill you.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 1 reply
It's a gamble. You can't just say with confidence that the man in this dilemma is safe and kind. There's always a chance that he's a horrible person.
calronmoonflower
1 up, 5h, 1 reply
Yes, I agree with that. The bear is more likely the threat however. Leaping to the worse conclusion about people would be more likely from someone that has experienced trauma. I've actually ran across an old term "man fear" describing an unreasonable fear of men as a result of abuse. I'd put that in the category of mental illness.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h
Either way, it's literally not an issue for you if a stranger on the internet would rather be with a bear in the woods.



You're saying fear of men as a result of abuse is a mental illness? I'm going to be honest, that's f**ked up. Avoiding something that caused you harm is not a mental illness.
regularfeller
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
😄 a woman no one wants to be with!



Oh how you make me laugh...unlike the good ol days!
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
You're saying you wouldn't want to be with a woman who has a sense of self-preservation?



Wow, um, that's a bit f**ked up.
regularfeller
0 ups, 1h
You said that just now.



I did not.



The bear may kill her without raping her or do neither.



The man may rape her and let her live or rape her and kill her or do neither.



Her chances are better with the man.



Some people will always be afraid of something all of the time.



Very sad way to live.
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Fear can come about from trauma, but isn't the only source. To dismiss this would lessen the impact that trauma has on people.



And as someone that is treated differently due to being rather large and male, sexism of this sort has affected me. You're assuming my experiences rather than asking.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Wouldn't lessening the impact that trauma has on people be a good thing?



I'm sorry for not asking you to open up about your traumas mid-discussion. /s
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h
Lessing the trauma would be good, denying the impact of the trauma is bad. You should have got the meaning from the context, fear from trauma can make it hard to live normally impacting everyday life. Don't deny the impact.
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CompassionKitty
0 ups, 6h, 3 replies
fumatore_di_sigaro
3 ups, 6h
So that explains your dog story
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 6h, 1 reply
I can understand unease being alone with a strange person, but most people will not do that. You're more likely to get help than to be harmed. Bears might leave you alone, but it's more likely to attack than a person. It might not kill you either and just leave you to slowly die in horrendous pain.
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MrMcMemer
0 ups, 6h, 3 replies
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 6h, 2 replies
I'd rather not be alone with a stranger is a secluded spot. But it's still better than the bear.

Sexual violence is a rather lose term that includes a pat on the butt used to inflate numbers.

The behavior is still unacceptable, but don't confuse the two.

8 out of those 10 rapes are from someone the person knows and nearly half are as minors.

Bears don't get as many people due to lack of contact, rather than unwillingness.



https://www.charliehealth.com/post/sexual-assault-statistics

Men are at risk of rape too, so you being doubly sexist here. Playing the victim card doesn't excuse your own sexism and prejudice. It's the same basic argument racists make against minorities.
regularfeller
2 ups, 4h, 1 reply
No one said they were offended by the woman's choice...the OP seems to suggest not helping such women.
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
I'd think you should ask if someone needs help. They have a right to refuse.
regularfeller
0 ups, 1h
The OP stated they had already refused and for men to remember that she had already refused.



I don't see the issue.
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MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h, 1 reply
calronmoonflower
2 ups, 5h, 1 reply
I've been "sexual assaulted" and my brother raped. There're not the same in the least.



I'm pointing out a pattern of reason that the Klan used to justify hate and discrimination against against blacks. I'll point out that their choices are racist just as your argument is sexist.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 5h
Sexual assault is still a trauma that people don't want to deal with.



Please explain how I'm being sexist for not being mad about a woman's choice in a theoretical dilemma.
calronmoonflower
1 up, 5h, 1 reply
You're supporting people being judge based on gender rathe rather actions. That is the definition of sexism.



sexism

noun

sex·​ism ˈsek-ˌsi-zəm 

1

: prejudice or discrimination based on sex

especially : discrimination against women

2

: behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex



And "sexual assault" is a vague term. It include both minor and severe actions. As such I've need "sexually assaulted" with no trauma, while other forms can carry as much trauma as rape. The vagueness of the term is used to inflate numbers. A proper breakdown should be by degree of the actions in multiple categories rather than a lumping term.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
It's a theoretical dilemma. A woman choosing a bear over a man because many women have bad experiences with men is not sexist.



It's disturbing when people cannot empathize with a woman being fearful of a random man.



So you were SA and had no trauma? Okay, that's great for you, but not everyone is like that.



I'm pretty sure the women who expressed their opinions on this dilemma didn't look up SA statistics before making their answers.
calronmoonflower
1 up, 4h, 1 reply
No, it is definitionally sexist. You're back to strawmaning again as well.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h
Where did I strawman?
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
Your strawman was my lack of empathy, I myself wouldn't want to be alone with a strange man in a secluded space. I've even felt that in public. Someone smaller could feel that even more.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
To quote myself, "It's disturbing when people cannot empathize with a woman being fearful of a random man."



Did I ever mention you?
calronmoonflower
0 ups, 4h, 1 reply
You mean when critiquing what I said, don't drop context to dodge. It is either meaningless fluff to distract or an outright lie on your part now.
MrMcMemer
0 ups, 3h
It's about the entire debate between man vs. bear. I was trying to bring the conversation back to the subject since you were bringing up all sorts of things that were unrelated to the topic.
MrMcMemer
1 up, 6h
Not this again...
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REMEMBER THAT LIBERAL WOMEN WOULD RATHER RISK; BEING EATEN BY A BEAR THAN BEING HELPED BY A A MAN.