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Apologists make claims about god operating in present day reality. That's testable. And god fails...again and again.

Apologists make claims about god operating in present day reality. That's testable. And god fails...again and again. | The reason your god is invisible and silent; is because he/she/it doesn't exist. P.S.: speaking to you within the confines of your own mind doesn't count. That's just YOU talking to YOURSELF. | image tagged in friends sharing,atheist,atheism,your god is a lie | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 3mo,
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I love referring to their god as she/ or it. Their reaction is very entertaining.

It's annoying hearing them say things like, "Oh, it's just god working in mysterious ways" when something bad happens. It's even more annoying when they credit god for MY achievements. "You're so blessed god gave you this gift" No, I just put in effort and worked hard to do the things I've done, don't credit your make-believe god.
2 ups, 3mo,
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You’re correct!
The next time someone says “God moves in mysterious ways“ or “eye hath not seen nor hear heard nor hath entered into the heart of man… Blah blah blah” ask them to read the next verse. It says, but God has revealed those things to us by his spirit. So no. There is no mystery. Not according to their own Bible!
2 ups, 3mo,
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Some christians I knew were blaming school shootings on, "Well it's because they don't allow god in public schools anymore."

And then a private christian school (Abundant Life) in my state had a shooting.

It seems like their god is fine with the murder of his own followers.
2 ups, 3mo
Their god is fine with murdering anyone for the pettiest of reasons.
Do they preach the fundamentalist Christian god in Australia, Argentina, Sweden, Thailand, Peru, Iceland, India, or any one of hundreds of other countries? Nope.
Christians have an insane tendency to see absolutely everything through the lens of their religion. They cannot see things through the lens of culture, the Five Personality Traits, upbringing, family dynamics, drug use, mental illness, … the list is almost endless. Everything and everyone is only black and white but there is a broad spectrum for so many independent factors that contribute to an individual deciding to commit a horrific act … but they’re willfully blind to 99.99% of them.
0 ups, 4w,
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HE IS NOT, HE WILL JUDGE each of them according to their deed
2 ups, 2w,
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So your god condones school shootings as "judgment for their deeds"?
0 ups, 2w,
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No?, it's only to show how wicked sin is, that's why GOD LETS sin enter.
1 up, 2w
So your god condones school shootings to "show how wicked sin is"?

I feel like I'm repeating myself. (I am)
0 ups, 4w,
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Thousands of miracles and testimonies and he fails, it's interesting
1 up, 3w,
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…..and you believe all that? Really? LOL. I have some oceanfront property in Kansas you’ll be interested in.
0 ups, 3w,
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When there's archaeological evidence and thousands of witnesses, yes, what would The Apostles gain from what they said? money? No, only martyrdom, fame? No only mocking and insults, and if they were fooled BY JESUS, then how could they claim HE DID MIRACLES??
1 up, 3w,
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There are no witnesses. You've been duped. The gospels are anonymous and any attribution is tradition and nothing else. NONE of the supposed martyrs are supported by real historical evidence, only by word of mouth and tradition.

I've already convinced 4 other pastors to de-convert. Do you want me to work on you now? Hell, I just got into an argument with AI and convinced it that Jesus was most likely, a figment of Paul's imagination supported by fan fiction called "The Gospels."
0 ups, 3w,
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And I got into an argument with an AI and proved CHRISTIANITY to it, I think your AI is grok, which really could accept anything, even paganism, it's not like me or you are great, but that the AI itself accepts anything, also when we're they not supported, again most of The Evidence comes from The Gospels because duh, they recorded what happened on JESUS' time, also again you have to think a bit, where did tradition come from??, like I get it some are made up, but no way a tradition just booms across most of mankind within a few years, also how do you know it's only by these books that we know tradition?, also Yes THE BIBLE'S Record of these deaths makes total sense, they preached something which was illegal according to both Jewish and roman law
1 up, 3w,
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You have ZERO knowledge of the history of xtianity. I bet you know nothing of the dozens of groups of people who were "xtians" yet had no knowledge of Jesus dying, groups who had no concept of the resurrection. In short, you know nothing.

Here is a brief excerpt from my book on the fallacies of xtianity. Hoping to be finished by the end of the year and published in 2026.

The absence of a unified understanding regarding Jesus' sacrificial death for the redemption of sins within certain early Christian communities warrants scrutiny. Remarkably, some factions appear to lack any conception of Jesus' crucifixion, let alone its salvific implications. Such variance in doctrinal comprehension simply MUST prompt inquiries into the fidelity of these communities to the teachings purportedly disseminated by the disciples. If indeed established by these apostolic figures, one would expect a foundational grasp of this pivotal aspect of Christian theology among all adherents. Teaching should have begun in Jerusalem under the tutelage of the disciples and radiated outward and those early communities should have been much more homogenous, not seemingly clinging to a few isolated fragments of Jesus’ teachings and forgetting others. But this is the opposite of what has been observed. Even Paul seemingly decries the heterogeneity and sheer disparateness of doctrines being disseminated by other preachers.

A critical examination of Paul's epistolary instruction to the Christians in Philippi reveals a notable gap regarding the explicit mention of Jesus' crucifixion. Despite the theological centrality of this event within Christian dogma, its conspicuous absence from Paul's ramblings raises interpretive questions. Whether Jesus' demise is attributed to natural causes or afflictions unrelated to crucifixion, Paul's silence on this crucial aspect of the Gospel narrative should raise serious questions, even doubt, into the perceived significance of crucifixion within early Christian theological discourse. Why did Paul have to instruct Christians in Philippians about Jesus’ death but then he fails to mention the crucifixion? Jesus could’ve just died from old age, or dysentery, or infection, or snakebite … isn’t the crucifixion a crucial part of the story? Paul didn’t seem to think so because if he did, he would’ve mentioned it. His cloak WAS crucial ... “When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas” 2 Timothy 2:14. That’s the inspired Word of God right there!
0 ups, 2w,
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Do I have to name the many atheists groups?, again did you forget about Paul's word in Galatians 1:6-7? See there is a unified understanding but these groups have put it away, did you forget the Ebionites? They knew JESUS WAS DIVINE but denied it, so really it's not the fault of THE BIBLR for this but The fault of these groups that just want to make things up for themselves, also Paul does not mention JESUS because by that time CHRISTIANITY HAD BLOWN UP (not just through Paul) so most likely many knew about The Crucifixion, but had an incorrect view of it, also Paul never fails, he just doesn't mention JESUS, but it's certain that he does know JESUS CRUFIXION like in 1 Corinthians 2:2 bit it's also not made up by Paul since it's mentioned in The Gospels which are not written by Paul
1 up, 2w,
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All ancient historians disagree with your fantasy. Christianity never blew up until Constantine. It’s all a farce. It’s all a lie. You are a liar and Christianity is a made up man-made religion.

You believe in myth and fantasy. You’re no different than any other fantasy religion (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism) with their wild, unbelievable, fantasy stories.
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0 ups, 2w,
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0 ups, 2w,
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Again tacticus said that Christians were persecuted in the roman empire, if it was not famous then there would not have been that much martyrs to begin with, also i did ask AI itself about the fact that either CHRISTANITY was sidely known before constantine or no and this is its answer: "Yes, Christianity was already spreading throughout the Roman Empire and beyond before Constantine. While its presence wasn't yet widespread or dominant, significant Christian communities existed in various parts of the empire, including Rome, Carthage, and other urban centers. By the end of the 3rd century, Christianity had become the dominant faith in some of these urban areas.
Elaboration:
Pre-Constantine Spread:
Christianity originated in the Levant and spread rapidly across the Roman Empire, particularly in the Eastern regions. The religion also found its way beyond the empire's borders, impacting places like Persia, Armenia, and even China.
Growing Presence:
By the 2nd century, Christian communities were established in numerous towns and cities, with significant populations and evolving infrastructure. " so really constantine while having a great effect in this empire was not the cause of CHRISTANITY but still he did have a big effect in the growth.
1 up, 2w
Ah Tacitus, born in 56 CE is widely regarded as the greatest Roman historian of all time, but he is best known in apologetic circles for making one of the earliest pagan references to Christ and Christianity.
Christians treasured his off-the-cuff mention of Christ as it it were a gold nugget. But it appears they didn't want to save quite everything Tacitus wrote. His history of the emperor Tiberius has a curious gap of two years - from mid-29 C.E. to mid-31 C.E., including all of the year 30, often regarded as a likely year of the crucifixion, probably because the crucifixion never happened.

In the American Journal of
Ancient History, Vanderbilt University classical historian Robert Drews argues that early Christians deliberately expunged the section, and that this one spot was targeted because Christians were embarrassed by the great historian failing to make any mention of Jesus' death, or any of the spectacular events that occurred at the time of the supposed crucifixion. If Christians didn't squelch this passage, its absence is otherwise very strange and hard to explain (unlike other gaps in Tacitus, as Drews notes).

One might wonder if Christians destroyed the passage because it made a negative comment about Christ. Christians did a lot it book burning.

Regardless, even if Jesus did exist, it still doesn’t prove that any of the crazy stories written about him were true. Cesar is said to have walked on water, healed the sick, Dionis turned water into wine, etc. I can find fantastical stories all throughout history. The difference is, you might start to worship those people.
0 ups, 2w
Also did i have to mention your place here too? "While not widespread, atheistic viewpoints did exist in the ancient world, particularly in ancient Greece and early Indian philosophy. However, atheism in the modern sense, as a formal belief system, was rare and largely emerged later in history, particularly during the Enlightenment.
Elaboration:
Ancient Greek and Indian Thought:
Evidence of atheistic or questioning views can be found in pre-Socratic Greek philosophy and early Indian philosophical schools like the Charvaka. These views often challenged traditional religious beliefs and explored the nature of the universe and existence." So is this considerably famous?, and yet half of these very Greeks which atheists love calling 'ancient atheists' were weirdo pagans
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The reason your god is invisible and silent; is because he/she/it doesn't exist. P.S.: speaking to you within the confines of your own mind doesn't count. That's just YOU talking to YOURSELF.