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So where is the EPA on this?

The loss of pollinators: The hidden ecological cost of WIND TURBINES

Wind turbines are estimated to kill 13.64 quadrillion insects annually worldwide, with significant losses reported in Germany and the UK.

Insects, including bees, butterflies, and beetles, are vital pollinators and decomposers, forming the foundation of the food chain.

Turbines also disrupt bird and bat populations, creating a ripple effect on ecosystems.

Despite growing evidence, major conservation organizations and governments remain silent on the issue, prioritizing renewable energy targets over ecological concerns.

Insect and bird remains on turbine blades can reduce energy efficiency, creating operational challenges for wind farms.
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Its ok, they plan to put a "no pollinators allowed" sign on each turbine.
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There are around 10 Quintillion bugs in the word. Let that sink in . . .

Wind energy is a very useful energy producing high amounts.

So whats your plan remove them?

Smoke kills things too
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There's hardly anything 'green' about killing other species.
Simply painting the blades of windmill with red and tipping them with red lights would do a lot to eliminate bird kills, and surely something with sound could dissuade bats.
Insects however, not quite as easy.

There are some smaller turbines that could be put on rooftops, those covered with some sort of screening. Don't think that's big enough to keep out all insects, but maybe something can be done with that angle instead of giant windmills taking up vast acreage and killing things.

Fields of solar panels also fry birds in mid-flight. Literally, cook them before they even hit the ground.
There is absolutely no reason for this.
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Yeah there is nothing green about killing any. But a lot of things died to be made.

The coal that they think is the best animals and plants had to die for. Oil is made from dead animals. So really there's is nothing green. Basically ever.

But think about it do you really care about the bee that dies so you get your hoes of electricity no. You don't and there are sooo many more insects then there are humans it's hard to comprehend
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Coal is from forest material that died 250 million years ago, oil from algae that likewise died natural deaths way way back when too. That's different from flying creatures getting killed needlessly by so-called green energy. They didn't die natural deaths and were utilized ages later for fuel, they were outright killed, and without being used at all, just left to rot on the ground.

The extraction and burning of coal and oil kills many creatures, that's a problem with those.

And yes, I do care about bees. A lot. I plant plants that provide flowers for them out in overgrown weedy areas in nearby parkland. They provide seeds and boots for birds and other animals as well. Don't ask me why bother, because most of them don't make it over the years. But it's something I do.

I've been stung by multiple bees three different times while gardening in the woods, and I felt guilty because those bees end up dying in the process. Yes, the stinging hurts a lot, but it's a lot better than the sexual organs of a bee getting ripped out when it pulls away after stinging and it slowly dying in pain after.

Same thing when I dig, if I see ants or other critters or the roots of other plants, I stop and move to another spot.
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Ok. So what your saying is that no solution of energy is better if you care about the deaths of animals ?
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Am I?

Saying we're killing the planet so we have to take action to prevent that and so what if a quadrillion insects and a billion birds and who knows how many bats die per year in order to save life on planet Earth is something of a contradiction.

I went looking for small turbines like I had seen on some news story once about them placed on a building rooftop in the Bronx, but then came across this and found it interesting. At 18.5 feet tall, they're not that small, but they're at the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation in Oklahoma City and they describe it as as the largest rooftop wind farm in the world.

Only read a couple articles about them, and other than being multidirectional in terms of catching the wind, I didn't see anything applying to minimizing the killing of living creatures. But from the looks of it, the way they're curved as opposed to big slicing, well, blades, the design does look like it would eliminate a lot of unnecessary deaths.

Same with solar panels on rooftops, as opposed to large solar arrays taking up fast acreage. I don't see birds littering the front yard of houses around here with solar panels on the roof, nor have heard of it.

Remember, the company's putting out these big vast killing machine farms are the same ones polluting the Earth already. Profit is their goal, not saving bugs. Perhaps a better approach to alternate energy is alternate methods of acquiring them, small and safer as opposed to industrial sized.
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Im not sure how much the kill to energy ratio is. But yeah it seems they just want a profit. The thing is with energy everything has a trade off. Really the only one I've seen with the least is Nuclear energy but that also needs a whole lot of things.

So far even tho some find it scary hydro and nuclear are some of the best energys. Solar is up there but not the #1
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No they didn't.
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