Spoiler alert! He didn't unban BM and the stream fell like the Roman Empire. [bad ending]

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lmao who are you

What we can acknowledge now is that the battle against BM/Incognito Guy/White nat was always *the* battle. He didn't make it interesting on his own or do anything legitimately compelling, the battle was won and now there is no purpose. It's not a bad thing, it was the life cycle of the stream.

Well at least now you're coming to terms with the fact that you guys were all hopelessly obsessed with me.

that's an odd take away but okay

I mean you were truly in a very narrative sense the villain of imglip presidents, so in that sense we were invested in that but no we were never obsessed.

Nah, as far as I'm concerned your side were objectively the villains. You, Scar, O'Pea, Surly, Slobama, ChthonicGnosis, the Pepe Party, the "Common Sense" Party, the "Libertarian" Alliance, Choose The Left, etc. That whole group who dedicated all that time to opposing me in everything I did just for the sake of it.

Even if I had ideas that you would eventually admit were good ones and enact yourselves once you were in power, like abolishing the Senate. At first you vehemently opposed it and said I was being evil and power hungry for suggesting it. Then eventually you guys abolished it lol If you weren't obsessed with me specifically, you were at the very least obsessed with the idea of stopping me and defeating me.

And why do I think you were the villains? Well let's see: Scar banned the whole Conservative Party (formerly RUP) back in Spring 2022 because he got all butthurt when he was arguing with me. Don't bother defending or denying it, even O'Pea said it was a bad idea. And the CPI were the governing party at the time too! Then for the next few months it was a literal one party state. Only one option on the ballot. Dead stream. Until the BritishMormon era. And guess what, that ended the same way - the owner gets butthurt and bans all opposition to him and the stream becomes a dead one party state.

So it really begs the question - if THAT is "victory" to you guys, then what was the point of "winning" in the first place? And if my eras of activity and time in government were objectively the most lively and animated eras in the history of the stream, then why am I the villain? What about me as so horrible that I had to be banned?

And not just me - but my parties and all my friends and allies who got caught in the crossfire and who you guys horribly mistreated. Like Pollard. What did he ever do to you guys apart from be my friend? That's hardly heroic behaviour from the self-proclaimed enemies of the stream's enemy number #1 isn't it?

lmao dude you're still salty over how it ended. I didn't expect you to grow up and see the error of your ways or whatever but i did expect you to move on to some other thing to do.I'm not going to argue over this with you.

Yeah of course you're not going to argue with me over this - because you have nothing to argue back with. Evidently you're the one who hasn't changed. Same old Envoy. Even has the audacity to say that I'M the one who's "salty" here. 😂

oh btw are you admitting that you were behind incognito guy, british mormon, whitenat accounts? if not, which am I talking to rn? I really can't tell :)

He's Moonie pretending to be Toby/IG/BM/WNAt.

what makes you think this? out of curiosity.

Does he sound even slightly like IG? But it does sound like Moonie.

Surly had also called him out on it months ago.
If he was IG, he would have been banned from the stream.

you just sent me four paragraphs about the online political roleplay that's been over for what, a year or two now? And effectively dead for longer.

Yeah it's not like you also spent hundreds of hours almost every day year after year doing your utmost to "win the battle" against the "villain" of this political roleplay...

Dude what are you trying to achieve, what argument are you trying to get across? Yeah, we were both invested heavily in the roleplay for a time. You and your party got banned for *your* actions, that you were warned would get you penalized time after time. I can look back and say some things and opinions of mine have changed. I still think we were in the right because our opponent was...you. But you still haven't changed at all lol. I can spend all day trying to get through your skull why your actions were a level above problematic, but we both know that's not going to change your mentality, that you've been wronged somehow, after chance after chance that Scar gave you. When I refer to winning I refer to when we won the election pre-ban. In my mind, that's the final election that mattered, mostly because afterwards you were banned lol. When i say you're the villain, im not saying you're inherently evil (i mean i think you're a terrible person, this is well established and we don't need to rehash it). I'm just saying you were the obstacle to over come, and that was where the tale ended because you were gone.

I'm not going to rehash this years old conflict anymore man lol, I wish you the best, though we would obviously disagree on what that would look like. Goodbye, WN/IG/BM.

Yep, you definitely haven't changed. You still have that character trait of yours where you find it completely inconceivable that anyone could in good faith have a different view on something to yours, and that if they disagree with you that makes them an idiot and/or a bad person. Like I said, same old Envoy.

Oh and nice job totally not rehashing this years old conflict with a paragraph about the online political roleplay that's been over for a year or two now, btw. Bit of a word salad though. Sure is convenient that the only explanation you need to give is that your opponent was indeed me and that I'm a terrible person which has apparently been so well established that you don't even need to give any reasons. I mean, it's not like half the users who've participated in the stream would completely disagree with most of your claims that you so fervently believe to be objectively true...

You need to let it go, man. I'm in my 20s now, and only God knows how old you are, I mostly come here for the nostalgia now. It's over; there's no going back.

You and Envoy are saying all this as though I haven't been inactive for a year or two now lol

Neither have we

I'm saying that I have been inactive for most of these last couple years. You haven't. And yet you're telling me to "let it go".

I understand what you're saying, I have also been mostly inactive except for the past 3 weeks