It is the workers who do it all

100 views • 2 upvotes • Made by RavenWings 3 months ago in politics
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merryprankster
3 ups, 3mo
What a load of communist bullshit
MVR
2 ups, 3mo, 1 reply
Yes Democrats have taken untold millions.. Doge gone it
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RavenWings
0 ups, 3mo, 2 replies
MVR
2 ups, 3mo, 1 reply
without business, we would all be dirt poor farming for our own existence
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RavenWings
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merryprankster
2 ups, 3mo
Again, you continue to fail to let us know exactly precisely how that will work.

I mean, it never ever has before.
MVR
2 ups, 3mo, 1 reply
you want to try an experiment with ppls lives?
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RavenWings
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MVR
2 ups, 3mo
you keep stating this "wishes" but the real world doesnt  run this way.

You are assuming everyone is going to give up their business freely , None of them will without force.

and even if they did comply, nobody is going to put the hard work into creating anything if its just going to be taken away.



Most people  will slack, nobody will do the hard work for anything, everyone will want an easy job.

your utopia will fail b4 its starts.



But if you want to try it, get a bunch of folks together and try it somewhere from the ground up..

Maybe a European country or a place in south America may be more prone to go along with your plan
merryprankster
2 ups, 3mo
When the Pilgrims first came to this country, they actually tried that.

They almost starved to death.
calronmoonflower
1 up, 3mo, 1 reply
You mean the ones that build and maintain the means of production?
RavenWings
0 ups, 3mo, 1 reply
No those are the workers
calronmoonflower
1 up, 3mo
No, that is 100% false. Building and maintaining is a very different job from what the workers with the means after they are built. Most of that wealth itself is the means of production they are responsible for. Without that everyone involved would be without.



You should stop with the proof by assertion and look into what it takes to start, build up, and maintain a business.
JeffreyHornick
0 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
Leftist ideology is always about being a victim.



“You can’t better yourself in a free market,” they tell you. “You need the unions, and the workers need to rise up. Your problems are the fault of the rich — but when they run out of rich people to blame, who will they blame?



Other leftists make their victimhood come from their race.  “You can’t get ahead on your own” they say. “You need this racial group or that. It is the fault of this race or that race that you are miserable.”



Still other leftists by gender, or sexual preferences.



The common theme: scapegoating.  But when the preacher of leftism has no more goats of one herd to scape, he will injectable scape a different herd of goats — one that may include you.
RavenWings
0 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Right wing is all about hate. All about blaming anyone other than the rich. All about wanting hierarchies.



The right is all about keeping oppressive hierarchies in place, whether it be social hierarchies, economic hierarchies, or anything else. They also have to make sure the people on bottom don't rise up. They have to make sure they have someone else to blame, such as someone of a different race. 



Leftism is about equality and tearing down hierarchy
JeffreyHornick
0 ups, 2mo
The right is all about individual freedom. The left is all about totalitarianism.  Even your “anarchist” views would require a worker’s council which is a hierarchy and becomes totalitarian.
RavenWings
0 ups, 2mo
The difference between right and left is simple. Left is anti hierarchy, right is pro hierarchy
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