It's not hurting you

how the heck did I never see this?

You're still not proving anything. Someone else's preference for a consenting sexual partner has ZERO effect on you and your life.

It does when people shame you for not supporting the LGBTQIA6GAJFBEUDB+ community just because you happen to be a conservative Christian.

What do you mean by support?

WHATEVER THEY MEAN! I don’t think that the LGBTQIA+ community is a good one because it doesn’t align with my religion, but I don’t hate the people in it! However, knuckleheads think that I’m homophobic for it. I’m not prejudiced against it.

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I mean, you are homophobic if you think a certain sexuality is wrong and deserving of eternal torture.

I don’t think they deserve eternal torture if they repent from their sins and turn to Jesus! Like, for example, let’s just say Homosexuality is a sin. There are worse sins than it, and frankly, I’ve committed a lot of them.

Why should someone be sorry if they're attracted to the same sex?

In my opinion, it’s not how God set it up. I think they should be sorry, but I also don’t think they HAVE to be sorry. I’m a tolerant Christian. They can be gay as long as I can think they shan’t be gay.

Do you think being gay is a choice? (You implied this when you said they "can" be gay)

Oh my gosh, I got the joke now! I thought it was saying Person 1 saying Person 1 can’t eat a cookie, not Person 1 saying Person 2 can’t eat a cookie! That makes sense now.

Sometimes yea, sometimes no

real.

It does though because with the diet analogy, you (the person on the diet) and the person eating the cookie don't need to interact. If you were on a diet and someone was eating a cookie, do you have any right to tell them they need to stop because you think it is wrong?

It's the same with being vegan, you can be vegan as long as you aren't telling me I need to stop eating meat because it's against your morals. (Basically ThatVeganTeacher)

"I don’t think they deserve eternal torture if..."

That "if" is really weird. You're basically saying, unless they meet that certain qualification, in that case they would be deserving of eternal torture. Why can't we all just agree that nobody deserves eternal torture?

I agree. Nobody deserves eternal torture, not even the worst humans to ever exist. You could torture them for thousands, millions, billions, or even centillions of years and nothing even comes close to eternal torture. It's also the same time no matter what your crime was. So even if you live a pretty regular life and don't commit any major crimes but decided religion wasn't for you, you would spend eternity being tortured.

Exactly

Like what the flip man this logic is so messed up

It isn't messed up because liking a person that is the same gender of you goes against the BIBLE or any religious based rules to begin with and I even have evidence that I posted on this post. This isn't necessarily hate but these are RULES written by wise people who contributed to creating the Bible. And if that isn't sane, then I don't know what is.

also those rules are WAY more important than dietary rules, which doesn't mean that they aren't important in of it itself and that you shouldn't follow them, but if you follow those rules from the bible, you will be rewarded with eternal life.

"you will be rewarded with eternal life"

Prove eternal life exists

it is already proven in the bible

You can't use the bible to prove the bible.

You can’t use science to prove science.

Obviously. Science doesn't prove or disprove itself. The core concept of science is to gather evidence and support theories.

Bingo

The Bible makes a claim about eternal life. What is the evidence to support that claim? Like the other person said, you can't use the Bible to prove the Bible or else a Muslim could just use the Koran to prove the Koran.

How about this. Does it make more sense for an afterlife than just a black ending? If there was nothing after your death, then what is the point? You could live life the best you can but it all leads up to nothing. Nothing you do will change the inevitability of that ending. It makes more sense if there was an afterlife with either God or you go in hell, because then life isn't pointless. Also, spontaneous generation isn't possible, so it makes most sense that there was a God who created life and everything on earth, including us.

If there is no afterlife and this life is all we have, that doesn't mean it makes more sense that an afterlife is real, just because many people would find that more comforting or desirable. I haven't seen any reliable evidence that there is an afterlife, and that's why I don't believe there is one. And if anything, that makes this life even more special, because that means it is the only life we have so we have to make the most of it and do what we can to make the world a better place.

As far as a God creating life, I don't see any evidence for that either. And then you would have to try to figure out where that God came from. If you say God has always existed, then you have no way to demonstrate that. People just use God is an easy answer for stuff they don't know because it makes them feel like they have solved the mystery.

If God created everything, including time and matter, then he must've existed outside of our universe. the rules that make up physics, chemistry, whatever exist in our universe only. That includes time. That means he must've been existing eternally since time can't exist outside of our universe because all those laws only apply to what's in the universe, not outside. Also whatever caused the universe had to exist outside the universe.

And about the afterlife concept. Us Christians don't just live our lives and only devote our lives to just going to heaven and not hell, because that is also silly. Not only do we devote our lives to God, but we also devote our lives to helping make this place better too. I want to do that because this place is a place with much struggle and hopelessness which is an issue so I want to contribute as much as I can to at least try to make the situation better.

And if that isn't enough then what is? I can't just kill my pastor and have him come to your doorstep. It's like asking for a photo of jesus when he was alive and preaching to prove that he exists. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!!! but we do have credible evidence of Jesus in the Bible.

The same "wise people" who thought people should be killed for not worshipping their god?

I think you are thinking about islamic culture

I'm thinking about the Bible. There are numerous places in the Bible where people are commanded to be killed for not worshiping God.

but murder is still bad because Jesus taught us it is bad

btw ignore the "It isn't messed up" part of my comment down bellow.

Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

The Bible also allows for honor killings, slavery, and child marriage, are you okay with those?

What religion are you on about my guy? when do we christians ever acknowledge those horrendous crimes? Trust me that is not the Bible

I'm not saying Christians approve of them, I'm saying the Bible allows people to do those things. So trying to justify something by pointing to the Bible while ignoring other stuff the Bible says doesn't really make sense.

I am aware that the bible does say that, but it doesn't mean it encourages it or allows it

That's the point I'm making: the Bible does allow people to do those things

You don't get my point though. Although there isn't a point when God said "Slavery is bad" or "Child Marriage is Bad" or "Honor Killings is Bad" doesn't mean it isn't still bad. Jesus said to "Love one another" in the Bible (funny, right?), and doing any kind of honor killings, slavery or child marriage isn't really loving. St. Augustine even described slavery as being against God's intention and resulting from sin. so I'm guessing that you didn't read the last part of my last comment or you just didn't understand the point I was making at all.

Your username is kinda ironic
The soviet onion

Communism and christianity are not a good combo

Jesus hates sin but he never hated the sinner

I personally believe he did exist and I have a healthy belief in the afterlife and science but I don’t want to use those beliefs to justify persecuting the sinners because that’s not what Jesus wanted to do when he came down from heaven.

He would’ve wined and dined with those on the LGBTQIA+ just like Zaccheus and Matthew and say “Go and sin no more” and then that would be the happy ending we all really need to hear

First of all, communism doesn't even have a point here, I just made it due to a joke, even though I know communism suppressed the Orthodox clergy. Secondly, I'm not saying gay people are bad, I'm saying gay ITSELF is bad. It distracts us from God, and even if God dined with the gay, he would've said "deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me". God doesn't even want a guy like Hitler going to hell because he created us and loves us.
So no, I'm not homophobic, I just hate gayness.