I'm not a collectivist but I do believe we are dependent on others to an extent

A lot of libertarians are for pure rugged dependency-free individualism but they don't realize that we are actually still dependent on others to an extent and things they can affect us even in a negative way. In my view, living in poverty with no job, no home and no money is the purest form of rugged individualism. We rely on other people (employers) to give us a job and pay us for the work we do and when those people act upon their own will to not give us a job or refuse to pay us for our work then that leaves unemployed and suffering in poverty. We are dependent on landlords for a home, when a landlord acts upon their own will to evict us or not let us stay in a property in the first place, that leaves us without a home. Even business owners are dependent on others, they depend on their own customers/clients to give them work and pay them for their work and when people refuse to pay business owners for work and refuse to give work in the first place then business owners become as poor and jobless as an unemployed person.

Gah, here I was, giving you an upvote. But you had to talk trash you have no knowledge owledge in your comment about libertarians. So, taking back my upvote. Funny how your meme goes agaist about you man hating ideology you been preaching lately in your posts.

Wow, you're sound butthurt. All because I said libertarians are for rugged, dependency-free individualism and you took it as some "trash talk" you conservatives really prove yourselves no better than the butthurt sjw leftists you despise. Also you lot say things like "you don't know libertarianism is nothing but a criticism-deflecting tactic you resort to when you can't stand it when people give basic and perfectly legitimate criticism all because you have losing any sort of argument and being proven wrong. Also I don't preach "man hating ideology" that's another bad faith strawman tactic you're pulling.

I am libertarian and also conservative, both are not mutually exclusive. I just think it is rude to talk about not knowing what you are talking about. I don't know where you got that I was butthurt from anything I previouy said.

You claiming anyone who criticizes libertarianism "doesn't know what they are talking about" makes you sound like a butthurt person who can't take criticism and deflects it.

Yup, lots of people have the wrong perspective. For example quoting you here "A lot of libertarians are for pure rugged dependency-free individualism but they don't realize that we are actually still dependent on others to an extent and things they can affect us even in a negative way." Pure lies you can't back up. Prove me wrong.

Here is yet another example, prominent libertarian think tank the CATO institute listing individualism as the first key concept of libertarianism saying " Libertarians see the individual as the basic unit of social analysis" with the second key concept being individual rights, your whole "pure lies you can't back up" notion has been completely debunked and no matter how you try to deny it like the self-righteous partisan right-wing hack you are doesn't change that.

Now you are gaslighting, you really expect me to believe libertarians aren't for individual freedom/individualism? Individualism is literally the main tennat of libertarian ideology. https://www.libertarianism.org/topics/individualism

What is wrong with individual freedom. That is great, but that does not mean we still depend on others. Like man and woman depend on eachother to procreate and a community to raise that kid. Different that your communism where everything is rationed and you have to depend on others for a cup of sugar or a couple of eggs to eat that day.

I never said there's anything wrong with individual freedom and strawmanning me calling me a "communist" isn't gonna win you any arguments, you're just doing the equivalent to hurling childish insults. Also I don't like the idea of rationing anything especially not being allowed to have as little as one cup of sugar or two eggs a day. I believe people should be allowed to have as much eggs, sugar, flour, EVERYTHING they want without a higher authority telling them what or how much they can and can't have, that's my biggest critique of Marxism. Even though I believe in collectivist principles in certain situations and also believe we are still dependent on others to an extent, I don't like Marxism's extreme collectivist ideas that completely destroy the individual, I do still believe one's freedom matters. I believe the best way to be able to have enough in one's life (including food) that one wants and feel one needs and not have a higher authority only give you what you think you need. Communist regimes have always had a higher authority only letting people have what the authority determined you think you should have and the obvious problem with that is that the authority only gave the very bare minimum or even less than that to everyone and having a higher authority only let you have what it's willing to let you have is not the best way to determine what you need to have enough in your life, ultimately it's best to leave the individual to make their own decisions to have what they want and feel they need and not let a higher authority make decisions one what you should and shouldn't have in life.