loud exasperated sigh

hear me out.
fatphobia is really not good but it isn't necessarily in the ranks of homophobia or racism in terms of actual true awfulness.

being fat is a product of genetics or poor discipline. it does not necessarily inhibit the quality of a person but it does not add anything, so long as one is sure to still function normally. a phobia is technically classified as an irrational fear of something to the point of losing mental or physical function to natural instinct, not quoted but very close. when i see a fat person, i really dont care for acknowledging their weight because it is irrelevant no matter what the situation is. thus i cannot be technically "fatphobic".
in addition to this fact, as chaws has said, it is a very popular term used in cancel culture. it is dangerous to live in cancel culture as it inhibits ones ability to make friends. in addition to being in part very nihilistic.
gummy, if you look at what i say to you i love you so much as a human being. that wont change. you are sort of like in the words of another (i dont remember but could it have been cookiecatbomb?) our very own elvis presley. youre funny, nice and a pretty good artist. i dont care about the weight of someone. but i feel as though cancel culture in general is a very dangerous and harmful substance.
one is not fatphobic for wanting to be skinny or being skinny. it is popular because it is the most difficult state of human health to achieve for many, to be delicate and thin. i could argue it is easier to become muscular, like one of those bodybuilders.
furthermore your weight means nothing to almost everyone. people who know you beyond your appearance will never remember the way you dress, your colors, your stature. they will remember what you do, how you make them feel and what impression you leave on others. thus it is now that i close with the following statements.
thinking in an objective mindset, the supposed quality of fatphobia could almost always be avoided should one become apathetic of how a trivial factor such as weight plays into the subconscious of someone who is not fat. it is unhealthy to worry about what other people think. if your skinny "friends" dont casually talk about your weight or act anxious around you its safe to say they are not fatphobic. and my advice is just to not worry. live life as it is. if you worry it will make you overthink. if you overthink you will quickly defect from the throes of a pleasant life and a successful career.

love, ada

1. Pretty sure the Elvis comment was Beth. Sounds like something they would say
2. Yea this is basically what I said, but on steroids and objectively better

Thank you for the clarification.
I meant to explain more of it. Your comment was very good but I sought to explain it in perfect detail so as to make it undeniable and better understood why people say that fatphobia either doesn't exist or is a very overused term for something quite uncommon in purest form.

U did a good job

Thank you. I am really passionate about debating such subjects as social politics and I find I am better soon after I take my evening medications.

(Ignore the deleted thing. Misclick)

Ok. Hot take. Fat phobia is bad, but the word gets thrown around way to much. When it gets to a certain point and they are just trying to help, and it's being called fatphobic is kinda dangerous, just like the rest of cancel culture (another rant for another time). Another time it's overused is when fat people aren't given special treatment. One time someone was getting mad and calling the airport fatphobic for not giving her extra seats. Its understandable sometimes, but its HEAVILY overused and encourages cancel culture

And this is why you need to educate yourself. Because you clearly don't know what fatphobia is <3

fatphobia
noun [ U ] disapproving (also fat phobia, fat-phobia)
us /fætˈfoʊ.bi.ə/ uk /fætˈfəʊ.bi.ə/
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unreasonable dislike or unfair treatment of people because they are fat:

Its not dislike or unfair treatment when someone genuinely thinks they are helping. Now what would be unfair is if someone got extra free seats bc they were fat

Well, not exactly. Your actions might come from a genuine place, but that doesn’t mean they’re not fataphobic. The way I see it, fatphobia is when any kind of bias that influences their view on someone just because of their weight. The reason people ask for extra seats is because there aren’t different-sized seats for people, and when there are they’re usually five times as expensive. They don’t ask for extra seats because they’re just trying to get extra room, it’s because if they don’t, they’ll have to deal with constant pain the entire flight.

Something that ISN’T fatphobic is offering to help someone because they’ve actually mentioned that they’re worried about their health. What IS, though, is SECRETLY trying to help them by doing things like cutting down their portion sizes or telling them to exercise way more than a normal human should - two very real things some people do. While being fatphobic doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person, if someone tells you that you’re being fatphobic you should probably do some more research on it.

Tl;dr- Fat people aren’t trying to bend everyone else to their will, they just want OPTIONS. And fatphobia is expecting THEM to change - or rather the only option they have is to be skinnier, which just isn’t possible for some people - rather than society becoming more accommodating.

systemic fatphobia is the fact that you would NEED extra seats in order to sit comfortably. Systemic fatphobia is the fact that most things are designed to be HOSTILE to fat people. Chairs, armrests, clothes, undergarments, all of these things are created in a way that harms fat people. Fat biases exist. "Helping" fat people by being "concerned" about their weight or health. Judging fat people based on their appearance and inferring that simply BECAUSE they are fat, they are unhealthy. Doctors refusing to give people a diagnosis because they should just "lose some weight." the lack of positive representation in media, be it fictional, or commercial. The only representation being villains, using our bodies to show greed and gluttony. Plus sized clothing being modeled by a SKINNY PERSON STANDING WITH BOTH LEGS IN THE ONE PANT LEG. Systemic fatphobia is the way fat people are treated as "fat" instead of "people." Fatphobia is the most socially accepted form of oppression and nobody ever talks about it. THAT is fatphobia. It is ingrained in our society, and people always defend themselves by saying they "care about our health,"

The things you reference, my friend, are simply designs that work for the majority of people for such a long time. There is an influx of fat people today; however, armchairs, clothing and vehicles were invented before the 1920s. In the mid 1800s to my memory the fattest person alive was considered amazing. How can one work for so much food or rather for currency tokens to pay for services? Picture this: that person was an outlier and was considered unusual. Thus armchairs, clothes and forms of transportation were made regularly except for this person who received his own custom things.
A fat person's body is seldom a symbol of villainism. And yes, we say we care for your health. This statement is more often given to those who convince others to be fat as well. If I were to broadcast that being skinny is amazing, I'd get hate from fat people for the simple fact that it doesn't align with what their community stands for. Vice versa. But being skinny is in fact far healthier. The human body was meant to stand and walk and lift and sprint and kill and eat and educate itself. It has worked for hundreds of thousands of years.
Just because one is fat does not mean they are unhealthy if they eat healthy. If one is to eat a mukbang of healthy food however it would still be detrimental to their health. Large quantities of time and food and work and sedentary activity without break are lethal to a human.
And also, yes, I must confess that whoever advertised plus size clothing by asking someone to stand perfectly in one pant leg is vile or shameless. I do not appreciate this myself because it is also toxic behavior.
What I am simply saying is that systemic fatphobia is not really being thin or the utilization of old inventions that haven't been retrofitted to fat people yet. When an armchair was invented, there was no such thing as being fat; if there was it would be similar to the kind of fat one sees in a fifty-year-old man who spends his days with his children and nieces and nephews. A system cannot be rigged for something that has never been conceived before and was only conceived long after.

I can tell you are very passionate about this issue and I'd prefer not to argue right now. We can agree that we simply have different opinions and move on from this. I hope this does not cause a raft between us

I will not argue with you, but I hope you understand that "difference of opinion" when it comes to oppression isn't the same as a conflict over pizza toppings.

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I definitely constitute as skinny btw. I'm about 140lbs, and someone my height should be 166 - 202lbs so my opinion isn't very valid ig

This comment section has the most words I've seen since my last argumentative essay

https://www.tumblr.com/fatliberation/751950307358113792/anti-fatness-is-not-just-body-shaming?source=share

I am not afraid to block people. I hope you guys understand that. :)

In my opinion, a post like this is kinda encouraging other viewpoints to be shared

"God I'm so tired of homophobia. I'm begging my straight friends to educate and enlighten themselves."
Does that sound like an invitation to encourage "viewpoints" on someone else's struggles?
I'm not in the mood for a bunch of undereducated thin people to tell me how it "Isn't really fatphobia," and all that bs. I have experienced and lived through our fat-hating society. I have done my research. I'm lucky to have had a family that didn't force me to hate or starve myself, but there are plenty of people who cannot say the same.
You are speaking from places of privelege. I would not ask a cis person about trans struggles. I would not ask a white person about POC struggles. And I am not asking skinny people their "opinions" (biases) on my struggles.
I was making a short vent post asking people I assumed were my friends to unlearn fatphobia and understand how it affects me and my fellow plus-sized people.
I'm going to bed. Be better.