Once again Israel rejects a lasting peace deal…

115 views • 1 upvote • Made by AlumaEnbo66 2 months ago in politics
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CharlesHobby1
4 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Surrender is the most peaceful deal possible; and all the HAMAS terrorists have to say is "Yes."
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
They literally did say yes as long as it was permanent.



Israel said NO because they only want a temporary ceasefire.
CharlesHobby1
4 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
HAMAS did not surrender. We would know because a total and unconditional surrender would have been world-wide news. Oh, and the fighting would stop. This is not really difficult stuff . . . well not for anyone who's ever been in the military or read a history book from cover to cover.
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
The only conditions they offered for the ceasefire was that it be permanent and not a week.



Israel specifically rejected the deal because it wouldn’t be temporary.
CharlesHobby1
3 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
Wow! Now the political Left thinks that a cease fire is the same thing as a surrender. But then again they think that being on the losing end of war is the same thing as genocide. No wonder they cannot define 'woman'.
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
They have to start using N. Korean insults when they run out of the lies...
CharlesHobby1
3 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Their political ideology depends on their audience having no capacity to think for themselves.
._SUPERNOVA_WORLD-ENDER_.
4 ups, 2mo
Agreed, and it's highly evident
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo
My broke ass went to public school and have read and remember more from history texts then half the dotard conservatives on here who have forgotten history after witnessing it.



When you show a kid at 10 year old on a Saturday the horrors of the holocaust and the evils of genocide done on your people you learn to appreciate the dangers of failing to learn from history and failing for the same lies as your grandfathers did.



I’ve seen the starved, dismembered, and mass graves of the Jews, the witnesses, the gypsies, and the mentally handicapped.and here I am a student of history damned to witness it again like Rwanda with horror and souls of tens of thousands gripped the hairs on the back of my neck like when I was a child.



And now mocked for doing more then just saying “how awful” and returning to my meals.
Modda
1 up, 2mo
Correct, they did not. 

They agreed to a ceasefire deal.

Upon agreeing to said ceasefire deal, Israel proceeded to continue their attack on the Palestinian population.
merryprankster
4 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
The only entities that matter in the “peace deal” are Israel and the Israeli citizens of Palestinian descent.

Now, once Hamas is neutralized, then Israel me be a little more amenable to a “peace deal”.

The rest of us have no say in the matter.

Least of all, you.
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 2 replies
“I believe only Israel is a country and Palestinians are subjects blah blah right wing enocide rhetoric. Your opinion doesn’t matter.”



As long as my tax dollars are going to support a genocide i will continue to use my first amendment right to say that this is f**ked up.



No matter what you say.
CharlesHobby1
4 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
Except that the political Left has changed the definition of genocide to mean the losing side in a war. Nor were they subtle about it when doing so; and yet people were not supposed to notice.
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
What? Palestinians are be slaughtered for the actions of a terrorist group.



What would you call the carpet bombing and starving of the entire American population for the actions of the kkk.



The civilian casualties are atrocious and around 80-90%.



Meanwhile the right claimed they were being genocided because there were more brown people around then when they grew up or because the government told them to take a shot.
CharlesHobby1
3 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
I think that perhaps history should have been taught to students rather than leftist ideology. Reality then would not come as such a shock to them. Maybe.
Modda
1 up, 2mo
Correct again, it was. 

The phrase "Never again" has been hammered into students - and society - since the end of World War II. That's the thing, "never again." It means everybody to everybody, it's not just the exclusive proprietary right of Jews. 



"But Hitler..." carries somewhat less relevance eight decades after his death to people born generations after. That may seem shocking, but and you very well know, there are many people who are totally unaware of the fact that Hillary is married to someone who was actually elected president back in the 90s. Twice.
Modda
1 up, 2mo
What war? 



Bulldozing the entirety of a country end to end (albeit not an extremely large one) and killing anyone and everyone who doesn't get out of the way soon enough is not a war, it's a massacre.
merryprankster
3 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Hey, if you are going to use quotation marks at least include the ACTUAL text I used, Skippy.
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
I have no idea what you’re on about I just translated genocide denier to English.
merryprankster
3 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
“genocide denier”

😂 

I don’t deny that Hamas, ergo, the Palestinians, want to genocide each and every Jew in Israel and all over the world.
CharlesHobby1
4 ups, 2mo
THAT . . . is the absolute and historically accurate truth. Well said.
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
Saying Hamas and the Palestinian civilians are the one and the same is literally a part of genocide….



You are looping in innocent civilians with a terrorist group.

That would be like carpet bombing all of America for the actions of the kkk.
merryprankster
4 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
So…you literally don’t know the meaning of the words “genocide” AND “literally”.

😂 

No…I am not looping anything. They are one in the same. Facts are facts and there’s no going around the facts.
AmericanViking
4 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
They want you to forget all those "innocent civilians" were cheering in the streets right after the Oct 7 attacks...
Modda
1 up, 2mo
Wait, you mean like a Dancing Israelis after 9/11 thing again?
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AlumaEnbo66
0 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/



https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinians-gaza-west-bank-celebrate-october-seven-massacre-hand-out-sweets-fire-guns
AlumaEnbo66
0 ups, 2mo
Sigh once I am again plagued with disingenuous cherry picking at best and propagandist media at worst…



First off that article from Reuters is over 5 months old and the poll was after the initial attack. We as Americans fully supported the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11 and it took us years to realize it was wrong…

I would imagine that view has shifted by now but we have no idea because media and journalists arnt allowed into Gaza and what journalists were there were bombed by Israel claiming they were Hamas.



As for the second link:

Memri tv is an Albanian propaganda network owned by zionists on par with Fox News and are frequently criticized for their mistranslations and misinformation. Their inability to give out correct information aside I would hardly call a Zionist organization commenting on the people zionists are trying to genocide an unbiased source.
Modda
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
Never again, huh? 



The more things change,,,
merryprankster
3 ups, 2mo
Wha?
AmericanViking
3 ups, 2mo, 2 replies
Once again you're ignoring the history... every time Palestinians have attacked Israel... they lost and afterwards refused to accept any terms... so why should Israel believe them this time??
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Modda
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
AmericanViking
4 ups, 2mo
False... as usual
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AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
AmericanViking
4 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
So you can't answer me... and go straight to another deflection... again... thanks
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
It’s not a deflection the part about demanding it be temporary was literally Israel’s demands and reason for rejecting the deal. 
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Yes, it is... I asked a question and you refused to answer it... you deflected... again...
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 3 replies
Because your premise is based off a lie.

Hamas has only rejected peace deals on the basis of it being only temporary ceasefires because they assumed the Israelis would care about their hostages more then slaughtering them or the civilians.



Unfortunately they miscalculated and didn’t realize Netanyahu doesn’t give two shits how many of the hostages die as long he gets more land in Gaza and forces out Palestinians so he can remain in power.



And even then Viking you claim EVERYTHING is a deflection.

Making ham sandwhich in my fridge I get a notification I’m deflecting, what’s 2+2? 4 “YOURE DEFLECTING.”



I swear it should be your catchphrase at this point.
AmericanViking
2 ups, 2mo
Nope
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1 up, 2mo, 2 replies
._SUPERNOVA_WORLD-ENDER_.
2 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
I believe the term is, "rage baiters"



The funny thing is, I eat rage bait for breakfast, I look for stuff like that to give em shit
Modda
0 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
._SUPERNOVA_WORLD-ENDER_.
1 up, 2mo
What in the cursed...
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
I understand I take my breaks when I need to or switch topics to let me catch some air.
Modda
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
You're still addressing all their though. 

You do what you gotta do, just bear in mind...
AlumaEnbo66
1 up, 2mo
Eh not all of em. But I hear you. Only way will ever get this place to be less of a cesspool of humanities worst instincts is persistence.
AmericanViking
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
Once again you're ignoring the history... every time Palestinians have attacked Israel... they lost and afterwards refused to accept any terms... so why should Israel believe them this time??



Keep deflecting from my question...
AlumaEnbo66
0 ups, 2mo, 1 reply
Sigh and once again you are ignoring everything I’ve said just to say I’m deflecting.



Wait a second…

“every time Palestinians have attacked Israel...”

Don’t you mean Hamas not the Palestinians?



Or are you like merryprankster and Israel believing that all Palestinians are Hamas?
AmericanViking
1 up, 2mo, 1 reply
yes...still deflecting from my question... not surprised
AlumaEnbo66
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