If only they got the definition right for once

Okay name a anti furry thats a zoo or a criminal

That wasn’t a anti fur

you are indeed new in this

? this is about definition not being hypocrites what-

*Cough cough* Major Cloog *Cough cough*

Me, I’m currently on the run from 129 countries for various war crimes ands acts of terrorism

Same here, I've been committing tax evasion since I was 19 and currently and in debt to the government for 2,960,518,492 dollars

/j

/j

Lmao

The "Definition" of a furry doesn't explain what a furry is. In fact, nobody has a real definition yet. Furries identify as many things and can't get their shit together. Some are only furries for the porn, some are furries for roleplay, some actually want to be animals but they don't identify as Therians because the name Therian has been tainted.

Furries*

Source: Trust me bro

Furries also use incorrect definitions of anti furry too soooo...

Not me.
They are typically just against the Fandom.

Most just see it as a a fetish though.

I should probably start the conversation from up here so I have more space.

Starting at "So what if they like porn; it's none of your business. I have said it before, and I'll say it again.
Addictions turn into worse things. People become zoophiles, pedophiles, and other nasty things. Porn addictions are what create these monsters that you say you hate so much. Yet you are defending what creates those monsters. Which makes you no better than them.

Now starting at "It's not a need"

My guy; you said it was a need. You said that humans have needs, and one of those needs is to watch porn. So clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just trying to defend it with empty arguments; that have no meaning.

"Your data is from 2013, things change."
Your fandom is funnily enough changing for the worse LMFAOOOO. As an example; even though we don't have sexual studies from 2024. We do have zoophile studies that show zoophilia getting worse, and worse in the fandom over time. Since all zoophiles watch porn. This is still an indicator that porn addictions are rising from 2013.

Here are the zoophile studies.

Sociology of Furry Fandom (Rust, J. D., 2001) 2% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20050302094251/http://www.visi.com/%7Ephantos/furrysoc.html
Furry Sociological Survey (Evans, K., 2008) 17% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/2008-evans.pdf
2008 Furry Survey (Osaki, A., 2008) 18.4% of respondents stated they were zoophiles. https://web.archive.org/web/20090224123642/https://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey2008.php
2009 Furry Survey (Osaki, A., 2009) 13.9% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20101123064940/https://klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey2009.php
2010 Furry Survey (Osaki, A., 2010) 13.6% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110225222046/https://klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey2010.php
2011 Furry Survey (Osaki, A., 2011) 13.3% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221006214822/http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey2011.php
2012 Furry Survey (Osaki, A., 2012) 14.9% of respondents stated they were zoophiles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130312072042/https://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey.php
2019 Studies (Roberts, S., et al., 2019) 6.9% of respondents stated they were zoophiles. https://furscience.com/research-findings/appendix-1-previous-research/furscienc

F**king hell not what I meant

Can you like not blow up my notifications and let me watch BFDIA in peace?

Christ's sakes...

Bruh I gave you one notification. You gave me five when I got on.

Well you are blocked now.
Torment other furries with outdated facts, okay?

Well you cant blame them though, a good chunk of popular furries are obsessed with corn and make sex jokes alot of the time. To the point it becomes annoying. But the worst of all is that they try to promote their fetishes to minors, the most infamous example being Odin Wolf, a furry youtuber who became infamous for his innapropriate content and sussy thumbnails despite his audience being minors primairly. Luckily his got deleted.

Not a good chunk.
0.1%

My boy; first of all. STOP FLAGGING COMMENTS IF THEY AREN'T AGAINST GUIDLINES! IT'S ANNOYING ASF!!

Second of all; it has been proved that over 80% of furries watch porn, and about 14% of all furries are secretly zoophiles (Most don't actually shag dogs; they just have an attraction to animals)

If you want the cited sources and peer reviewed studies. I can give them to you.

Dude can you like not.
The Fandom is not inherently a sexual fetish.

P e r i o d .

Your best source is Fur Science and furries themselves.
GO TO FUR SCIENCE.

Here you go; from fur-science.

87.3% of furries on average watch porn :)

https://furscience.com/research-findings/sex-relationships-pornography/5-4-frequency-of-porn-use/

Actually about like only 60%

Uhhh no? It was stated that 96.3% of furry males watch porn, and 78.3% of furry females watch porn.

Using the average formula.

((96.3+78.3)/2)

We get 87.3%

Oh.

Okay.
Think of it this way.

We're only human.

Therefore we have needs.

And maybe to fulfill said needs we watch porn.

But what's so wrong with that???
You like what you like!
Period.

Source?

Think of it this way.
We're only human.
We may watch porn.
Because we are HUMANS.
With NEEDS.

It's not like noone from AFS has watched porn.

And sure maybe it's furry porn but so?
Like?
And?
It's not inherently a fetish.
P e r i o d .

If you NEED to watch porn; that is no longer a hobby. That's an addiction.

It's not a need.

It is NOT an addiction.

What percentage of furries NEED porn is the question.

Not who watches it.

It's fine until the point of it becoming a fetish and addiction.

Also, your data is from 2013.
It's 2024.
Things change

I didn't say none of the AFS have watched porn. However, It is a small percentage. Of the anti-furries that I have seen on the anti-furry stream. 6/7 anti-furries on average are anti-porn.

That’s 147 in your stream

Okay let me settle something.
SO WHAT IF THEY LIKE PORN.
IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

NOBODY CARES.

Not a single person!

YOU are not in control of other people.

The Fandom is not, I repeat, NOT, inherently a fetish.
P e r i o d .

Nah its actually 74% - 45%

Omfg stop with this bs

But its the truth, of course your not one of those people but the amount of furries who are seggsually devious amongst the fandom is not a minority.

Don't think that from one person that the Fandom is full of sexual deviants.

I dont believe all furries are bad, I am aware that there are good furries. In fact, one of them is a mod at the afs stream. And i personally like Magma. However, the bad side is not to be ignored since they have tainted the image of the furry fandom for a long time. And that has to be stopped, hence why anti furries exist. Not to atatck the furry fandom, but clean it from its dark side.

We shall end all bad furries.

Thing is its not one person, its a lot of them.

You aren't looking in the right place

This is not about looking in the right place, this is about spotting how many bad apples are in the fandom. And as one person said: one bad apple spoils the bunch.

Okay?
And?

You keep acting like all furries are bad.

Go to Furries-stream and meet some people there.

Get enlightened.

Now thats the spirit

You realize Odin Wolf was quite popular amongst furries prior to his termination despite his innapropriaten content and sussy thumbnails right???

And not only that but his audience was filled with minors.

One in a thousand furries are like that

More like one in 100

Fine

Good

or even 10. Ill leave it to onein 10-100

We'll settle one in 100.
But very very few furries will send porno to minors.

Ok

Also those claims may have been false

They are not. Many people have archived evidence of his content and know that most of Odin's fanbase where minors.

Fine you're right, but people like that are very unlikely.

BUT STILL THERE IS A DEBATE WHETHER THOSE CLAIMS ARE TRUE OR NOT

People like that are quite common in the fandom

And no there is no debate, its confirmed that Odin is a gooner and posted innapropriate stuff in his videos despite his audience being full of minors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURTXgUrloY more proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSnp1pCxWBc

I was just presenting evidence. No need to be rude.