Both Buttons Pressed

Trump also plans to give our money away to Ukraine "Loan them the money. If they can make it, they pay us back. If they can’t make it, they don’t have to pay us back.”

Well, if Trump actually does this, then he will be called out for it

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Hahaha what’s up Yolo?

Well... off the top of my head...

• The Stock Market

• US Energy Independence

• The Stratgic Petroleum Reserve

• Jobs

• Wage Growth

• Student loan debt relief

• Infrastructure

• GDP

• Claims that America has been destroyed

• Trump court cases

• Biden's age

• Republican tears

That's what's up.
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Here is your “great economy” or your cult of Bidenomics…

The consumer price index rose by an average of 3.1% in January 2024, a smaller annual increase than in December 2024.

This is the consumer report for January of 2024:

Food +2.6%
Food at home +1.2%
Frozen noncarbonated
Juices & drinks +29%
Uncooked beef steaks +10.7%
Baby food & formula +8.7%
Sugar & Sugar substitutes
+7.2%
Other fats & oils Including peanut butter +5.1%
Crackers, bread & cracker products +5.1%
Frozen vegetables +5%
Carbonated drinks +4.8%
Food away from home +5.1%
Food from vending machines
& Mobile vendors +10.6%
Limited service meals & snacks +5.8%
Electricity +3.8%
All items less food & energy +3.9%
Motor vehicle insurance +20.6%
Repair of household items 18.2%
Admission to sporting events 13.5%
Tax return preparation
& Other accounting fees
+11.2%
Veterinarian services +9.6%
Nonprescription drugs +9.2%
Ship fare +9.1%
Outpatient hospital services +8.3%
Motor vehicle repair +7.9%
Sewing machines, fabric & supplies +7.1%
Care of invalids & elderly at home +6.7%
Garbage & trash collection +6.4%
Fees for lessons or instructions +6.2%
Rent of primary residence +6.1%
Cable television service,
Including satellite & live streaming
+5.7%
Laundry & dry cleaning services +5.4%
Day care & preschool +4.7%
Haircuts & other personal care services +4.2%

Don’t sit here and say everything is fine under the Biden Administration. Goods and services have never been more expensive than they are now…you are delusional, or living in an altered state of reality of you believe otherwise.

Works Cited:
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Data as of Feb. 13, 2024

Valid point.

"Here is your “great economy” "

Ah yes..." the economy". This is another one kinda like "energy independent" where it depends who you ask (and when) what that means.

6 years ago people here on the right defined "the economy" as unemployment, the stock market, and occasionallly GDP would get thrown in.

The right clearly can't define the economy that way anymore because if they did, they would not be able to say Biden destroidDdD it. They'd have to say the exact opposite. Defined as the way the right did during the trump presidency, Biden is making the economy great again.

So here we are in 2024 and "the economy" is now apparently (solely) the price of goods... and I'm completely delusional for saying anything different. 🙄

"Don’t sit here and say everything is fine under the Biden Administration."

🥱 Strawman. I listed some things that were "up". I wouldn't say everything is fine. I would say America is definitely NOT destroyed though.

Anyway if you want to talk about inflation...M2 money supply began skyrocketing under trump with QE, continued under biden for a bit, and began coming back down 2 years or so ago... And the chairman of the FED, Jerome Powell, was appointed by trump. So you can go on about the price of peanut butter and other minutiae but I have no reason to believe inflation would've been any different coming out of the pandemic if trump had been re-elected. I'm sure you disagree.

Me the strawman…pffttt…..You have a bad habit of thinking your political analysis is always iron-clad; however, I can find holes in your arguments as well

I have been factually incorrect on things before. I think a while back I thought Biden's unemployment beat trump's when at the time it was tied... (it has since beat it but at the time I was incorrect).

Anyway if my arguments have holes.... point them out. Call me out. That's why I'm here. If I wanted people to just agree with me I'd go to P2. (Although they might disagree on one or 2 things with me idk)

“It has since beat it” when Biden shut down the keystone pipeline….he killed tens of thousands of jobs….professional jobs like engineers, fabricators, welders, architects, steel and iron workers…”they can learn to code” he said…these people had careers, and many were company owners, responsible for 1,000’s of employees…what about that? The Biden admin has a war of fossil fuels…the evidence is clear. Also, many, not all, but many, of those reported job numbers you speak of are jobs returning from the pandemic…go to labor and statistics and research it for yourself

But your mind is made up, as well as mine…and that is fine…we are both hard-headed, and passionate about our beliefs

Don’t say you’re not hard-headed…don’t even do there…🤣

I promise I won't do there.
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Keystone's been an on/off game for a while. My basic understanding is Bush ok'd it at the end of his presidency... then Obama shut it down... then Trump reversed that. Then the SCOTUS shut it down again... then trump found away around SCOTUS and got it going again... and then Biden shut it down again.

In any case it seems kinda like the same people who complain about "Globalism" are cool with this Canadian company to build a (or another?) pipeline through America to ship their oil through our country to sell. which seems.. interesting.

Also it seems like you account for biden cancelling those temporary jobs for that Canadian project, but apparently do not give him credit for the American Infrastructure jobs. Pretty sure both happened due to a stroke of his pen, both happened "under his watch", and one of them vastly dwarfs the other.

And yes! Many of the jobs numbers are jobs returning back from the pandemic.
GOOD!
You say that kinda like it's a bad thing..jobs coming back. meanwhile some businesses did not come back.

I understand Biden has a lot mean tweets about fossil fuels.
*shrug* At some point we will have to find another way... well.. assuming a natural disaster or something else doesn't kill us first.

Yeah, but think of all the illegals that would have been hired to facilitate the building of a pipeline through the US to sell Canadian oil to China! They need jobs too ya know!

Student loan debt relief….so you think it’s fair, that millions of Americans, that never took out a loan, pay back the loans for college graduates? I’m on the public service loan forgiveness because of my healthcare degree….I had to make 10 years of equal payments, then the rest got forgiven…fireman, police, nurses, and teachers quality for it

So you got yours forgiven (unfairly?) or what do you mean?

How much more clear do I have to make it for you? I made 10 solid years, and never missed a payment on my student loans. I am a registered nurse, so I qualify for public loan service

Which means, if the loans are not repaid, the rest is forgiven. This goes for healthcare workers fireman, police, and teachers….unfairly? Not hardly…unfairly, is new graduates, never made a payment…and 20k is automatically forgiven…

You are basically my example then.

I was making a point to someone else that forgiving some people's debts would not be as "wildly irresponsible" as forgiving a kid who immediately dropped out and spent the money might be. But I wasn't sure about actual real world details like that.

I tried to find out about student loan interest rates and how much of total outstanding debt is the original amount vs how much much is due to interest but I have come up empty on that so far.

I did find a stat from nerdwallet that claimed $100 billion+ of outstanding student loan debt is from 62 yr old Americans and older.... This is what made me wonder how much is interest related.

Like if they've been paying just the interest on their loan for 30 years... if it was 5% annual that would mean they've in essence paid back 150% of their initial loan.... but still technically owe the entire amount of it.

And if that was the case, it would not seem wildly irresponsible for our government to forgive at least some of them. I mean pretty soon they'll be paying it with social security $ anyway..

Now this here is a well written, nice, solid post. I’m glad I can be the example also.

That is a grey area that needs to be addressed concerning student loan forgiveness. Many people work the system— apply for college, register, take out a loan, then wait for classes to be paid for, get the student loan “kickback” then drop the classes, never attend, and repeat this process, for many more semesters. Then, apply for student loan forgiveness.

Then you have the dedicated college student—attends all classes, works their ass off, graduates in student loan debt. Most government student loans are capped at 6.5%, and 20-25 year payback schedule…depending on other factors though. Now imagine someone spending 20 years of their life paying off a loan, and then a kid getting loan forgiveness of 20k immediately, that slashes off years of payments….they’re arguments on either side of this issue.

You are exactly right, the majority of student debt is from the non typical student over 40, and the majority will be 65 by the time the loans are paid off…ridiculous!

My Advice: Get a degree in teaching, or criminal justice areas, degree in science, mathematics, engineering, or IT. Those are the fields that get the most help with loan forgiveness if a government “handout” is not in your interest.

Again, great post Yolo

Where was good for the goose is only good for the goose,,,

Public service loan forgiveness* it started under George W. Bush

Mind you, that was stated so unironically, no less.

Buahahahha! Energy independence? You must be high AF….we are buying natural gas, and oil from Putin,..there is NO Sanctions on Putin! That is a Sham talking point, bs you liberals believe…The Saudis turned us down on more oil production…Biden shut down the Keystone pipeline…how TF are we energy independent? Where are we getting oil from? Certainly not here, not in the capacity to keep America going. LMAO @ Strategic Reserves in a surplus…

Got to love Yolo….the coolest leftie I know on imgflip

I am all the lefties on imgflip. 😜

Well, then Heaven Help us…..🫵🤣🤣🤣🤣👊

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Jobs? Ohhh you mean the same jobs, that people got laid off…then came back from Covid-19 and then Biden claiming he created 14 million new jobs?

"how TF are we energy independent?"

You may have forgot about this but a few years ago the right proclaimed we became "energy independent" under Trump... and then Joe Biden ruined everything. DestroidDdD!!1 and such.

The right had 2 definitions for "energy independent" at the time:

1. We don't import any energy/oil from foreign countries.

This one^ was problematic for trumpers though because by that definition, while it was true that we were not "energy independent" under biden, we also never actually became totally energy independent under trump either. We've always been importing some amount of foreign oil.

2. Our net energy/oil exports are greater than our net imports.

This one^ is the definition that most people on the right used. Because you can ignore the decade leading up to it, solely focus on 2019 when our energy exports dipped above our imports, and say aha! Look what trump did!

Unfortunately the part about Biden "ruining it" has aged very poorly...... Because by the right's own definition, we are now more energy independent under Joe Biden. Our exports exceeded our imports even more than they did in 2019.. OOPS! Time to change the definition of "energy independent". 😂

Ya might wanna Google "record oil production" before you come up with a new definition though....... 😎