The Pacer railbus is actully derived from the Leyland National bus

I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did! People were wanting them gone, but when they were actually getting rid of them, people changed their mind. Just goes to show that some people don't care about something until it's taken away from them.

yes, the Pacers were just so cheap that it was very economical to operate them on low traffic routes. What are your thoughts on the Pacers, I think there kinda crap, but they still did there job

I think the exact same thing about the pacers, however bouncy or uncomfortable they may have been, they still had alot of character. I would say even as much character as maybe even a shed, (class 66), just because of how iconic they were.

yeah, I mean I do also like the sheds, in fact I call the sheds "The SD40-2's of Britan" which makes sense since the Class 66 is derived from the Class 59 which is based of the EMD SD40-2

Indeed that is true!

anyway I have a question for you, what is your favorite british locomotive

You mean like the interior components like the engine right? Cause I really don’t see the resemblance

Am i thinking of the wrong thing?

that is a class 59

technically, the pacer is a leyland national on bogies with a diffrent cab design

Yeah i still dont see it

The bus body of the leyland national is used on the pacer, but a different cab is used on the pacer

No I mean I don’t see how they are like an sd40-2

i did not compair the pacer to the sd40-2, i compaired the pacer to the leyland national bus

Makes sense

I compared the Class 66 to the Class 59, which is mechanically an SD40-2

You compared them to sd40-2s, but I dont see it. I am wondering if I am missing something. Thats all I am saying.

i'm actully a bit confused with what your saying