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How much the West actually needs feminism, How much feminists think the West needs their ideology | image tagged in charts,pie charts | made w/ Imgflip chart maker
191 views 9 upvotes Made by TheElementalist 4 months ago in politics
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5 ups, 4mo,
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Of course, the pie graph in this example is not to scale. In reality, the orange portion would need a microscope to see it.
4 ups, 4mo,
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More like a super-microscope
3 ups, 4mo,
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Can we agree that the Hubble telescope 🔭 will be sufficient?
2 ups, 4mo
Yup
5 ups, 4mo,
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Grumpy old Man | I'LL LISTEN TO FEMINISTS WHEN THEY SPEAK OUT AGAINST MEN MASQUERADING AS WOMEN TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE IN WOMEN'S SPORTS AND TREATMENT OF WOMEN | image tagged in grumpy old man | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Flag on the Play, Unnecessary Dick Riding | image tagged in flag on the play unnecessary dick riding | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
On behalf of whatever a “woman” is, I call “no fair” and demand appropriations.
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Uh, yes, some men are doing that. If you read the news, you would know that. And while there may be some feminists who do criticize women's treatment in Muslim countries, the fact remains that many of them do find fault over frivolous things, like trying to cancel a male scientist who landed a probe on Mars just because he was wearing a shirt with conventionally sexy women on it (while those same feminists often have no problem objectifying men), or try to push for themselves to get paid for existing or for men to pay higher taxes (never mind that women already pay less taxes than men).
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1 up, 4mo
And I suppose the sky isn't blue either?
0 ups, 4mo
*Real* men aren't doing that. *Real* men aren't too pussy to compete on equal terms with people of equivalent size, strength and ability.
3 ups, 4mo
Indeed
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It was never about equality, even in its early days. When feminists succeeded in giving women as a whole the right to vote, most men didn't have the right to vote either. And don't even get me started on how modern feminism is a supremacy movement. Not to mention that if it were really about equality, it wouldn't be called feminism; it'd be called equalism. Equality does not mean "this gender gets treated better while the opposite one suffers". It doesn't mean "this gender is never at fault for committing infidelity, rape, or abuse, and if they are, someone of the opposite gender must have done something to provoke them". And it doesn't mean demonizing one gender simply for existing, being attracted to the opposite gender, or objecting to the preferential treatment the opposite gender gets either.
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Not all men have been able to vote since that time (and I'm not just talking about black men, either). I never said that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. I was listing a historical example of feminism being more about supremacy than equality. And that's just the tip of the iceberg; several early feminists actually pathologized male heterosexuality (strange how some things never change), and men who survived the sinking of the Titanic actually faced legal consequences for not sacrificing their lives for women.

And that statement does make sense. The word feminism implies gynocentrism rather than equality, and if you don't see examples of it living up to this implication, you must be really deluded. If it were really about equality, female abusers would be taken seriously like their male counterparts (and don't you say "most abusers are male", because they aren't; reliable studies of domestic violence have shown that most unreciprocated cases of it are committed by the so-called fairer sex), innocent men would not be having their lives ruined simply for looking at women, and men would not have to pay child support to their female rapists, as examples (and yes, that has happened and still is happening).

And yes, there are many feminists who think those ways, and it's having a major negative impact on Western society. There are men who are too afraid to even speak to women lest they be falsely accused of assault or harassment.
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"Which men were unable to vote between the 1860s and 1920?"
Most non upper-class men weren't allowed to vote.

I think all adults should vote if they want to, but they should vote rationally.

Regarding Black Lives Matter, I've already said what I have to say on it before, and it is an anti-white hate movement. And once more, I'll remind you that I am black myself, and I do think that all lives matter, but I also know that excluding white people from certain events, looting stores, exempting black criminals from punishment for crimes they commit, and barring white actors from voicing colored characters (not all black people in real life sound like stereotypical blacks either) are not the answer. All races have suffered at some point or another in history. White people have been kept as slaves, both by other white people and nonwhites, and black people have owned other black people. The Irish are a textbook example of white people being treated as second-class citizens in the West. And before you say "black people aren't being given a chance to voice/play characters", yes, they are, including playing in live action folkloric/historical figures who weren't black (such as Cleopatra, who was of Greek descent). And by that logic, should I just let a queer woman have her way with my girlfriend or let a queer man have their way with me just because they're "marginalized" and "not being given a chance at love"? I think not.

"They are increasingly being taken seriously."
That may be so, but female-on-male abuse is still by and large treated as comedic or something that the man or boy had coming even when it wasn't, and many shows and movies that used this as comedy would not even be greenlit if the genders were reversed.

"Where is that happening?"
Here, in America. One time, a man who happened to be blind was recently arrested simply for "looking" at a woman at the gym.

"Not as negative of an impact as treating women as second-class citizens."
When have women in the West been made to pay child support to their male rapists (even centuries ago men accused of raping women faced severe consequences, so you can't use that as an out)? When have innocent women in the West been arrested just because men felt "unsafe" around them. When have women been
0 ups, 4mo
(continued) told not to hit men even in self defense?
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"Oh no, this user is making valid points about how disproportionately biased society is towards women and the alphabet crowd at the expense of men and straight people; he must be an incel [a word that has lost its meaning] or something else problematic [another word that has lost its meaning]!"

Get your head out of the sand. Also, you do not know anything about my life, so don't assume my relationship status based on memes I post that you don't like.
1 up, 4mo
Also, you don't have to look at or comment on them if you don't like them.
1 up, 4mo,
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Ok, a misogynist gotta misogyny.
0 ups, 4mo,
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So men should just turn a blind eye to the fact that they are considered expendable in the Western world? Good to know... not.
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If you feel youre expendable, you probably are and thats a you problem and looking to blame someone other than yourself for your inferiority complex. Wait'll you find out women are starting to take over and running their own cartels south of the border.
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Gaslighting much?
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