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Tell me something new... they've been lying all along... | NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL SPOKESPERSON JOHN KIRBY SAID ON TUESDAY. U.S. INTELLIGENCE SHOWS HAMAS USING HOSPITALS FOR MILITARY ACTIVITIES; OF COURSE, HAMAS LIED | image tagged in palestine,terrorists,lies | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Israeli Army Eliminates 5 Terrorists in Hamas Hospital, Patient Says “Hamas Can Go to Hell”
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5 whole Terrorists... Better level the whole building... And do you recall Vietnam? Everyone killed by Americans miraculously became "Viet Cong" guerillas - even the elderly and the children.

The people who've been lying about everything - probably shouldn't be taken at face value, when they make these reports.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1724696674763719162
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Or maybe they should be taken at face value...
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MEMRI - the Zionist-Apartheid Entity's chief Propaganda outlet.

I can understand why the old man is pissed, but that's a nonspecific allegation. And again - a tiny sliver of land, that nobody can leave. Where would they go? Tunnels is the answer. And there's not much spare land undef which to build them. He ALSO notes the inhumanity and indiscriminate fire of the Zionist Occupation Forces. MEMRI didn't put that in the headline apparently.
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Sorry... you're wrong... Hamas used hospitals... that's a fact
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For INJURED Soldiers? Or as firing positions?

Because I've seen 0 evidence for the latter. There was that story pushed by the Zionist Entity, after the bombing of Al-Shifa, now disputed by expert analysis - but that merely implied that they were firing from nearby.

In the entire last month, all footage collected in hospitals that I've seen - was of Doctors working without medicines or anesthetics, and screaming wounded children. The footage wasn't shot by Hamas, either.
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For hostage hiding, weapons cache and hiding
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Based entirely on the testimony of the IDF spoke liar's "explaining"? Because that presentation to the CNN PR assistant was not credible.

Why 'hide' or store weapons and Hostages above ground in places that the Zionists are known to target - when you have miles of tunnels, that aren't subject to the same kind of targeting? Was it JUST to goad the Zionists into the commission of Warcrimes? That seems like something they do willingly, and with prompting, and without reservations.
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If those weapons were there from before... all bets are off...
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Five dusty rifles are easily dropped at the "crime scene" - and hardly amounts to a weapons cache. We don't see large stockpiles of ammunition, MLRS tubes... It feels like what happens after a bad police shooting. Suddenly a gun appears, with no fingerprints from the suspect, unless the cop can get it into the victim's hand without being seen.

I loved how the IDF guy was calling a hospital gown a dress - and then saying that they would test it for DNA...😂 PCR, no doubt. The test results are like a 'black box' that only they can look inside - we're all going to have to just TRUST them.
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Are those the same Intelligence Agencies that sold us the lies about Iraqi WMD's and Russian Hacking of the DNC server? Remember the Hunter Biden Laptop story? Same people. And I'd lay good money, that they're basing that, entirely on reports coming to them from the Mossad.

https://www.youtube.com/live/lIWCWFk4jq0
37:07
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Well, I've seen footage of independent news tours of the tunnels beneath the hospitals..
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"independent" - meaning on a Mossad press junket. Which also means that the alleged crime scene lacks a decent chain of custody.

RT has been doing reports from Gazan Hospitals for weeks. And independent news tour would have been one conducted prior to the Israeli control over the area.

And please note - EVEN IF TRUE - the way you deal with something like that, is how the Russians did it in Mariupol. You don't bomb civilians to get the Nazis in the underground tunnels. You EVACUATE the Civilians yourself, under fire, if need be, to a safe area within their own country, outside of the battlezone. In this case there's the entire Negev Desert, right there, just outside of the Gaza Concentration Camp. But that's not the plan - as Max's Tweet notes.

https://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/gazafactsheet.html
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Yes... sure.. they staged the whole tunnel system... complete with the electrical wiring and plumbing...
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Nobody denies the existence of tunnels. Just that the Hospitals were how you come and go from them. There were miles of tunnels under Mariupol, too. The Russians gave a damn about the lives of the people living above them - so they cleared them, the RIGHT way.

We're TOLD that Gazans are being held hostage by Hamas. For sure the citizens of Mariupol were being held hostage by the Azov and other Nazis, in a much more provable fashion. Thr Russians were opening humanitarian corridors constantly.

But the people in Mariupol couldn't use them. They'll tell you about the Snipers, and the Nazi firing positions established in people's apartments. I don't see that in Gaza. I see people with no place to go, and no gasoline or food or water with which to get there. And they already know what the Zionists' plans are. They haven't been shy when talking about expulsion and Genocide, and "a new map of the Middle East (with no Palestine whatsoever)" for quite some time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6raWKH7DA
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Ain't it funny how the anti-Semitic liberals suddenly don't trust the media?
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I'm not a Liberal - and my real world analysis of the MOCKINGBIRD Press corps isn't something that I just arrived at. I've been broadcasting about it, for at least two and a half decades, now.
https://israelpalestinenews.org/what-media-reports-fail-to-tell-you-about-october-7/

And https://israelpalestinenews.org/november-13-todays-news-on-palestine-israel-day-38/

"Some people are led to be skeptical of the Al Jazeera news network. However, the network has won several Emmys, a Peabody and the Overseas Press Association’s Edward R. Murrow award, among many other honors. The New York Times reports that “its reporting hews to international journalistic standards and provides a unique view on events in the Middle East.” it’s important to remember that all news sources may potentially have bias. For example, CNN uses anchors who used to work for the Israel Lobby, who have lifelong attachment to Israel, and who often exhibit pro-Israel spin and omission in their broadcasts. Similarly, Fox News is strongly influenced by Rupert Murdoch, who has a similarly strong attachment to Israel, and who may have fired Tucker Carlson, the network’s most popular host, in part due to the host’s opposition to war and his pattern of failing to exhibit sufficient devotion to Israel)."

You still don't seem to understand that opposition to Zionism is the most pro-Jewish and pro-Semitic position that one can possibly take, for some reason. That's a very shallow understanding of things. Palestinians are Semites. Torah-faithful Jews have ALWAYS opposed Zionism, and still do. The Hundreds of thousands (millions?) of Jews speaking-up against the Genocidal current Regime in some cases, Zionism as an idea in others - aren't bigoted against themselves. I'm one of their number.

https://youtu.be/MpA4UvylMDs

https://youtu.be/_3ucEiWFI6I

https://ifamericansknew.org/
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You don't seem to understand that I do not care about the politics of the region.

I am stating facts regarding the guerilla warfare tactics of islamic terrorist groups.

I am stating that the people decrying the plight of the Palestinian people are posers.

Suddenly it's the newest "thing" to demonstrate against "open air prison", and now "concentration camp".

But interestingly, not a peep, not a post, not a demonstration, not a donation, not an anything, prior to 07 OCT 2023.

Just like Dylan Mulvaney and Ukraine, it's a fad cause.

In six months there will be a new bandwagon to jump on and the Palestinian people will be forgotten.

For the record: I have never heard an Arab, from any country, describe animosity towards them as "antisemitism" - EVER.

I have never heard an Arab, from any country, refer to themselves as semetic - EVER.
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It's amazing what TikTok and idle, contrary, youth following the lead of their mentors will get involved in.

Nobody gave a damn about Palestinians a month ago and won't give a damn within another 3 to 6 months.

They will have moved on to the next fad cause.

😄How many times have they changed flag on their facebook profile photo in the last few years.
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If that were the case @regularfeller - then the Zionist HASBARAH Machine wouldn't be working overtime, in the way that they are, currently.

The parade of atrocities will no doubt continue, and some new cause may seem more pressing, in the future - but the World has woken up to the perils of the Genocidal Zionist-Apartheid cause. And the US and the Zionist Entity are becoming increasingly isolated on the World stage.
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"We are LOOKING for the connection"... In other words - there's no connection - except some stuff that the IDF could easily hustle into the hospital, prior to the arrival of their IN-Bedded CNN PR assistants.

Israeli statements/propaganda: In a tweet that was later deleted, the Israeli army has claimed that ambulances and hospitals were used by Hamas for its fighters and its military operations. “This is against international law and turns them into legitimate military targets,” the army wrote. (11:50 GMT)

In an interview with NBC News on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Hamas refused an offer of fuel for al-Shifa Hospital but failed to provide evidence. The Palestinian group denied the claim and any association with al-Shifa management or decision-making in a statement on Sunday.

According to Palestine Chronicle, Israel’s talk about supplying fuel is false, and the quantity allegedly offered would only be enough for one hour.

Ha’aretz reports actually IDF claimed that Israeli soldiers killed a squad of 21 Hamas militants who opened fire on them from the entrance of Al-Quds Hospital in Gaza City. Hamas has consistently denied using hospitals for its operations.

Motive for this kind of "Reporting":

"White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said on Sunday that the US “does not want to see firefights in hospitals where innocent people…are caught in the crossfire,” and that it is having “active consultations” with Israel’s military about its concerns. Al Jazeera’s Shihab Rattansi said the comments reflect “more of the same gentle chiding that we’ve come to expect from the Biden administration.” (05:10 GMT)"

The Real story:
"Avi Dichter, Israel’s Minister for Agriculture and former head of Shin Bet, says: “We are now actually rolling out the Gaza Nakba,” Gaza Nakba 2023. That’s how it’ll end.” [Nakba is the Arabic word for Israel’s 1948 ethnic cleansing of Palestnians.]"
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Look... you can post links all day... not going to change my mind... I know what I saw when I saw the people of Gaza come out cheering on Oct 7 after the attacks on Oct 7... right up until they finally realized they were going to have to face the wrath of Israel... then their tune changed...
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When you watch RED DAWN... Do you feel the same way, when the Wolverines blow up Russians and Cubans - and then celebrate?

And there's 2.4 Million people in Gaza. 50k or so are Hamas fighters and other militants - thanks to the long established backing of the Zionists. https://www.thehandstand.org/archive/jan2002/EdcellJan2002/rezeq/

Did you see all the Orthodox Christians who died in that Church that the Zionists bombed - were they celebrating? I doubt it.

The Fascists currently in charge, LET IT HAPPEN ON PURPOSE (LIHOP), at a minimum. The Egyptians warned them. The US warned them. They pulled all of the Soldiers, and sent them to protect the violent thugs in the illegal settlements, as they went out on their Pogroms in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.

A mouse doesn't fart by that fence, without raising alarms from the Kibbutzim, all the way to Tel Aviv. This is more like the Zionist Pearl Harbor, than the Zionist "9/11". (Technically the first and second "9/11"s were also Zionist "9/11"s, as well. Though considering that about half of the 1200 Israelis killed, were mowed down by their own troops...maybe the "9/11" thing has some resonance, after all).

Anyways - Collective Punishment is yet another War Crime and Crime Against Humanity. And the disproportionate response was a staple of the Nazis, and evil bastards going back to the Romans, and probably before - look at the Old Testament. But the argument you're making would be applicable to the Uprising in the Warsaw Ghetto, as well. And of the survivors to that - there were a surprising amount of Anti-Zionists.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
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The group you champion are the fascists.

Keep your wool out of my face.

Using schools, mosques, apartment buildings, hospitals to hide in because they know others are weak minded and will not wish to look bad for assaulting these types of camouflaged terrorist strongholds.

It is common military doctrine and tactics to these militants. As is the people assisting in concealing their positions and shielding them.

You can have your feelings on the topic but stop pretending everybody doesn't know their m.o.

Stop pretending you don't.

Believe me, cheer as fervently as you wish for them, they do not care about you.

Btw - You know Red Dawn was just a movie, right?

P.S. Hamas is well known for their expertise in propagandizing.
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You're ascribing the terrorist tactics of the CIA/DIA backed Terrorist Jihadist Insurgents in Syria, and the US backed Nazis in Eastern and Southern Ukraine - to the Palestinian resistance. Now it IS TRUE that the Zionist-Apartheid State assisted and facilitated some of those fighters going to western and southern areas of Syria, through Jordan and the still illegally occupied Golan Heights... But just because they're familiar with those tactics doesn't mean that they used them amongst their own people.

Gaza is Concentration Camp, smaller than Manhattan, With 2.4 million people living in it, and with only minimal life sustaining services and amenities. There's only so many places that Hamas militants can set-up. And those people have families, too - just like the ZOF Soldiers, that lived in the Militarized Kibbutzim ringed around Gaza as a security perimeter. Do we call out the Zionist Occupiers, for having "Human Shield" families, living with them on the front lines? I don't see any evidence of that in the Western MOCKINGBIRD Press. Just attempts to misconstrue the realities.

Hamas has extensive tunnels below ground. I don't think they're trying to risk their fighters and equipment, by leaving it in the Hospitals and apartment buildings that were being turned into rubble, since 10/7.

Those Hospitals are run by foreign charities - not Hamas. That presentation by the IDF spokesman is the clumsiest attempt at a frame-up, since the DNC Server and Alpha Bank claims. That "Dress" was a hospital gown. Patients wear those, not Hostages. And they didn't show us the much promised tunnels in the Hospital, either. Are Hamas going to walk their hostages around above ground, where satellites and drones can spot them? If so - where's the video? Where did they take them?

These are the techniques of HASBARAH and information warfare you're falling for. Blaming the victims, and rationalizing the deaths of the thousands of innocent people, that the Zionists DELIBERATELY killed - is shown for what it is, by the gross differences in fatalities and casualties in places like Mariupol vs. Gaza City, and the (permanent) Refugee Camps. People try to make the Russians out to be warcriminals - for things that aren't even crimes. Putin was indicted FOR EVACUATING CHILDREN from the warzones - voluntarily, and with parental consent where it was available. None of the ZioNazi Cabinet, or their Military Leadership will ever the risk of similar charges

https://youtu.be/_3ucEiWFI6I
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