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As always, the only "side" the Tangerine Traitor takes is his own. | "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!"; HIS "GOOD PEOPLE," CHANTED THIS , AS HE PLANNED TO BAN IMMIGRATION BY AMD DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS. HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH (WHO HE PRAISED) RELY ON HIS DIVISIVENESS TO ADVANCE THEIR CAUSE WHICH KILLS INNOCENTS ON BOTH SIDES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. | image tagged in politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Why do you keep perpetuating the Charlottesville lie, Larry? I have debunked this and so have orhers many times. So yet again this is what Trump said:
"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly."

You still lie about what Trump said, as the press did then and still do. You have stated over and over you go with the facts. Well you keep lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville. Here's a link to the transcript.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/full-transcript-of-trumps-both-sides-charlottesville-presser
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I harbor no mis conceptions. Facts will be ignored, and disinformation will be paraded about by the various MAGA reps who post here. I will never change their twisted view of things. I only hope to reassure people who see the truth, as I do, and give those with questions my views and the facts.
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The following is from an article in "The Jewish Experience," published by Brandeis University. I encourage people to seek it out and read its entire text:

"This article is republished from The Conversation. Jonathan Sarna is University Professor and Joseph H. & Belle R. Braun Professor of American Jewish History at Brandeis.

Nov. 19, 2021

By Jonathan D. Sarna '75, MA'75

"Jews will not replace us," demonstrators chanted at the Unite the Right rally organized by armed white nationalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, to stop the removal of a statue dedicated to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee."
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Trump made his "Very fine people, on both sides," statement and was publicly criticized for it. The following took place at a subsequent news conference.:

Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"

Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."

Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."
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Executive Order 13769, Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States (January 27, 2017) – The original travel ban.

This was the first of a series of Executive Orders and other actions Trump took to ban Muslims from entry into the USA. Many were challenged in court, and some were reversed.
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Tho totality of the facts, available in many media sources, support the information conveyed in my meme. More importantly, I hope I cause people with questions to seek the truth, which is "Out there," rather than just accepting the slickest, most clever or "loudest voices."
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There you go again lying about what Trump said, and I even put the full quote and a link to the transcript. What part of "and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally." do you not understand? Why do you have to keep lying about it? Are you so filled with hate that you can't accept the truth?
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He did say what you said he said, He just said it two days after his "Fine people" statement.
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Here's the transcript from his small press conference on August 12 2017. Where does he say fine people on both sides?
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138906/president-trump-remarks-condemning-violence-on-many-sides-charlottesville-rally
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According to a transcript from the White House, the Trump quote in question was in response to a reporter who asked, "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"

Trump responded: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

He did go on to say that he was not talking about "Neo-Nazis and White-Supremacists." I did not characterize the people who used he phrase "Jews will not replace us." They may be the finest of people who just like to say Anti-Semitic slogans as they march.
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The "very fine people" he is refering to, are the people on both sides of the debate over taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee.

THE PRESIDENT: Those people — all of those people –excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee.

and another block further in that actually includes the "very fine people" quote.

Q The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest —

THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group.

Q (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did.

You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Why do you keep insisting on lying about what Trump said?
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The Proud Boys leader Gavin McInnes declined an invitation to attend the rally because of the overt presence of "Neo-Nazis."

Former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke called the protests "a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We're going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back." Following Trump's initial comments made three days after the rally, Duke tweeted, "Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa." He felt that Trump's statements supported his racist comrades.

The Washington Post did an in-depth analysis of the events surrounding the "Unite the Right," rally. David Duke was a featured speaker and Richard Spencer, who is a well-known White Nationalist, was involved. On August 11, the night before the main rally, a group described by the Washington Post to be made up entirely of White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis conducted the march, chanting Anti-Semitic slogans, through the University of Virginia campus that prompted Trump to assert that " I looked the night before — if you look, there were people protesting very quietly." The WP investigation concluded:

"The evidence shows there were no quiet protesters against removing the statue that weekend. That’s just a figment of (President Trump’s} imagination. The militia groups were not spurred on by the Confederate statue controversy. They arrived in Charlottesville heavily armed and, by their own account, were prepared to use deadly force — because of a desire to insert themselves in a dangerous situation that, in effect, pitted them against the foes of white supremacists."

In many ways 8-11-17 seems like a dress rehearsal for 1-20-21, which I fear is Act 1 of a two-act play.
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This is the epitome of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". Whatever Gavin McInnes or David Duke said does not matter. Trump condemned the neo-Nazis and the white supremacists.

You do realize Trump's "very fine people" includes people that were there protesting against the neo-Nazis and white supremacists? Probably not, because you don't let facts get in the way of trying to paint Trump as an evil person. Stop letting your hate consume you, Larry, you'll have a much happier retirement.
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Nobody knows the affiliations of those who chanted "Jews will not replace us.." He inferred that they might be "fine people." He also tried to minimize the implied influence of Neo-Nazis on the event, when they were central to its organization.

As I have said before I don't hate anyone. I try to understand people with whom I disagree. I understand why it is important for a movement that lacks positive goals and accomplishments to minimize the positions of others by trying to assign to them negative values, without evidence.

Watching Joe Biden repair my country's international reputation and commitment to democracies has brought me great joy in my retirement, thank you.
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"JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!"; HIS "GOOD PEOPLE," CHANTED THIS , AS HE PLANNED TO BAN IMMIGRATION BY AMD DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS. HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH (WHO HE PRAISED) RELY ON HIS DIVISIVENESS TO ADVANCE THEIR CAUSE WHICH KILLS INNOCENTS ON BOTH SIDES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.