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Oct 7 was an inside job. Israel created Hamas. On purpose. Hamas and Israel seem to have similar weapons....

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278 views 2 upvotes Made by acenbeaky 6 months ago in politics
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2 ups, 6mo,
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As investigations into Facebook fact checkers demonstrated, the problem with fact checking is that it's usually done by someone WORKING on the same ideological and political side as the article writer. Thus most fact checks are not worth their iconic check mark symbol. So unless there are hard and irrefutable facts available -- and there aren't in this case -- it is opinion.

Would Netanyahu conspire to set up Israeli citizens for a horrific terrorist attack in order to win some obscure sort of advantage? Maybe and maybe not. Depends on what sort of person he is at his core and what sort of advantage we are talking about.

Would the United States supply both sides with arms? Maybe not directly, but look the other way while Iran and other Islamic nations resupply HAMAS with weaponry? Probably with our current crop of leftists in charge of the Executive Branch.

So we have a lot of maybes that could just as easily be 'no' as 'yes'.
0 ups, 6mo,
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I don't trust fact checkers either, but I've been studying this and divorcing myself from Zionism ever since I got out of the army. I read a book by a rightwing populist Jew called "The Life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel."
Presidents on either side of the aisle have been funding enemies and boogie men for years. It's just easy to notice it when the other guy does it. Liberals don't just fund Muslims because they hate Jews, in fact there's historical context that Israel intentionally funded Hamas to undermine the PLO, who actually defended Palestinian Christians from the Israelis, not just muslims.
Israel is not our friend, dude. That's what I found out when I got out of the army. They are not our friend. A lot of the Islamo Fascism comes from our ally Saudi Arabia, not Iran. Iran was a democracy before we overthrew it and set up a dictatorship.
PS even though Biden and Obama were in charge when we funded Nazis in Ukraine, the Conservatives (particularly the neoconservatives) were in lock step with it. I have references to the Prime Minister of the ADL defending these Nazis. It would take a bit to dig it up, but it's there.
0 ups, 6mo
I don't doubt you. But deeper digs in any of this can lead one to reach a different conclusion. Not will, but could. My take from history is that almost all upper level politicians are innately corrupt and at least partially owned by unknowable 'patrons'. Meaning either outright bought and paid for or being simply in enough blackmail material on the politician that it can set up a break between the public face and behind the scenes actions.

Let's take Barack Obama whom had a demonstratable history of actually hating Jews if one performed a deep background vetting of the man before he became president. Nonetheless he 'helped' Israel in many ways after becoming president while simultaneously did everything possible to encourage the real growth of Al Qaeda and then ISIS. His actual hatred of Netanyahu was blatantly obvious and he illegally did his best to affect the outcome of Israeli elections. All this happened while our news media outlets and politicians on both sides looked the other way. Barack Obama was famous for never labeling any event inside the United States an Islamic Terrorist Attack when famously several events very obviously were.

We know that G.W. Bush was so duplicitous and bent that it was amazing he never met himself coming around a corner. He cynically parlayed a 'justified' attack on Afghanistan into an utterly unwarranted war against Iraq and thus changed the lives of millions of enlisted and officers. He cynically played the country hick role while actually being highly educated -- for a politician -- and he manipulated world events like a pro. He did nothing for the citizens of the United States and yet also did nothing for anyone else.

One could break down nearly every U.S. president along these lines with possibly two exceptions: Jimmy Carter and Donald Trump. The former because -- although utterly incompetent as a president -- Carter was the real deal as a human being and tried his best. It's just that his best wasn't really very good. Trump because he was too wealthy to have been owned and evidently he laughed at blackmail attempts. He was an independent outside agent for change and this was demonstrated by the nature of his presidency . . . thus why he was hated with a white-hot passion by leftists and their RINO political allies.

But -- the reason each man did what he did behind the scenes -- as opposed to what he TOLD the public or claimed to have as intentions -- are unknowable by any outsider.
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