Leftist Atheists B Lyke

Atheist here:
I completely respect your beliefs, as long as you respect mine.
(unless your views are queerphobic)

Fun fact: there's something called Swyer Syndrome! It's when a baby gets an underdeveloped Y chromosome so it goes to the default mode of female (males have nipples because all babies start out as female and there's no real need for the body to get rid of them once they develop as male) so there are actually biological females out their with XY chromosomes

Are they able to reproduce?

Thanks, sirentusk. Yeah, he does seem rather lulzy. Sometimes you can have a bit of fun with these ballers.

No, but that doesn't mean they're not female. Fertility doesn't determine who's female and who isn't.

"My opinions on this issue:

People under 16 shouldn't be allowed hormones

People under 18 shouldn't be allowed to get top surgery or facial surgery

People under 25 shouldn't be allowed to get bottom surgery

And they need to have been diagnosed or showing signs of Gender Dysphoria for at least a year before they do anything"

So you're saying they should wait until after their body has finished going through all the changes of puberty before they are allowed to do anything? And why make them wait until they're 25? Is there any other medical procedure people have to wait until they're 25 to get?

Unless the gender Dysphoria is severe enough, obviously if they're showing serious signs of it there has to be some exceptions, but I feel this should be the general rule

I'm just wondering why

Mostly to make sure the regret rate for transitioning stays as low as possible. I do feel requirements for transitioning shouldn't be as strict, but unless the Gender Dysphoria is consistent and causes severe harm to their mental health, I think these should be the rules, however this is just my opinion and I myself am not a medical professional, nor do I wish to be, so take this with a grain of salt

Fair enough. If I'm not mistaken, you did point out to the guy that the percentage of people who regret transitioning is very, very low, and even the requirements we have in place right now are very thorough. Conservatives often try to present it as a six-year-old telling a teacher that they feel like a girl, so that same day they go get body parts chopped off, and that's laughably idiotic, and doesn't happen to anybody. They have nothing but lies.

That's also incredibly fair! As I said, it's just my personal opinion, and unlike previous things I said, I don't really have any evidence to back it up, so take it with a grain of salt.

It means they're genetically deformed.

Okay, they're still acknowledged as female by the doctors though. There is no one trait that makes someone a woman, it will always disclude someone. Why? Because of the fact that even if they're deformed, they're still people and still women

there is one trait that makes someone a women. its identifying as a woman :)

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Yeah, that's the only actual one. There's no definite biological trait though.

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Grouping people is done for the sake of exclusion!

So those women who have XY chromosomes, infertile, yet acknowledged by the doctor as female aren't female in your mind?

You're trying to exclude women from being women. Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

"This woman has testicular cancer."

^Not as dumb as this^

Actually, if you take into account those who are Intersex, it's actually possible someone assigned female at birth ends up getting testicular cancer

Right, science is constantly changing and we need to accept that so it could change out of saying trans is good. What you believe is propaganda put together to prop up a highly profitable industry. None of it is true. The medical professionals who dissent are being drummed out like crazy. That's not what I call good medicine or good science. And you're just sitting here being obstinate.

We've tried to do conversion therapy and it made trans people feel worse about themselves. If doctors are just against children transitioning then that's not a good thing they're being kicked out, if doctors are being transphobic and discriminating against their patients then maybe they shouldn't be a doctor.

Being trans isn't a good thing, just like it's not a good thing to have any disorder or mental illness, but what is a good thing is allowing these trans people to be themselves because it's okay! It's okay to be trans.

"Jeff's an exception that proves the rule."
"There are so many exceptions of Jeff's kind that the exception doesn't prove the rule..."

Etc. You see what you're doing? You're just being obtuse.

There are many exceptions though, and even if they do prove the rule, wouldn't trans people just be another exception?

If a trans woman is the most feminine person you know you have a very out-of-whack sense of femininity. Or you're a beta. BETA! You should take a peak at medical paychecks before you go believing everything they say willy nilly the way you do. Your credulity is worse than the religious kind you probably want to put down.

I don't put down religions. I think they're great because they build a sense of community. And what do you even mean I'm a beta? What the heck?

There's no such thing as unbiased.

Maybe, but you should at least try to be unbiased. They aren't even trying. In fact, they are actively trying to make the democratic political party look bad.

Because your statistics aren't true. And they're poorly gathered.

You can't say they're not true when you don't have anything saying otherwise other than your own opinion. How do you know they're not true? You can't.

At least I'm trying to find actual facts, you're just going off your own opinion.

Why on earth would I become a doctor? So I can get kicked out of the medical community for disagreeing? Because that's what's happening.

Really? Do you have any evidence that's happening beside TikTok and YouTube videos.

The doctors and medical professionals know more than you, and if you see something wrong why not try to change it? If you're so passionate about it being wrong, shouldn't you actually try to stop it instead of whining on the Internet?

You're just appealing to "authority."

Yes, because they have more evidence than you do. They know a lot more about this than you do. You haven't provided any real evidence this entire argument!

I shouldn't have to say what's wrong with being trans. It's self-apparent. You know how women get lots of surgery done to look like women? No? There you go.

Actually a lot of women will get breast enlargements, and facial surgeries to look more feminine. There is nothing wrong with being trans

I shouldn't have to say what's wrong with being ignorant. It's self-apparent

I predict that a class-action lawsuit is coming and a lot more people are going to be detransitioners than before.

Maybe, I do agree that some parents are forcing their kids to be trans. You wanna know what's ironic about that, though? All parents forcing their kids to be trans are cis straight people looking for attention on TikTok.

But they are still the exception that proves the rule of gender dysphoria and transitioning.

And even then I still doubt too many people will detranistion. According to a 2022 NCBI survey, 8% of respondents had detransitioned temporarily or permanently, with higher rates among transgender women (11%) than transgender men (4%). The most common reasons cited were pressure from a parent (36%), transitioning was too hard (33%), too much harassment or discrimination (31%), and trouble getting a job (29%).

I know this was from 2 years ago but it's the most recent thing I could find. And even here most detranistioners were still trans, they just didn't want to face hate for being themselves

No they weren't. He doubled down on all his BS his whole life. Come on, man!

They did prove gender was different from your body. If they weren't than the little boy wouldn't have felt uncomfortable being a girl because that's what he was raised as.

And if they weren't then most trans people who transition would have felt extremely uncomfortable in their bodies after transitioning, but they don't. Less than 1% of trans people detranistion.

You say gender and sex are the same like it's true but it's not. And if it were you'd have to draw that line and you haven't. Gender and sex are the exact same thing and they always have been!

Really? So, if you're a man, and you were born male were to wake up and be in the body of the opposite sex, would you refer to yourself with he/him or she/her pronouns and why?

"Gender and sex are the exact same thing and they always have been!"

No they aren't

Sex refers to physical characteristics like genitals. Gender refers to the individual or social expression of how men and women behave and dress and present themselves in a culture.

I haven't used my opinion. I've used the opinion of everyone for 100,000 years. I think that's a better opinion than yours. And your differentiation of gender and sex just proves that both are highly interconnected at the very least. What did trans people do before surgery? Why don't you answer some of my more inconvenient questions?

"I've used the opinion of everyone for 100,000 years"

Wait until you find out that different cultures have understood for thousands of years that some people don't fit into the gender binary. Even more shocking, wait until you find out that you don't actually speak for the entire human race 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's going to be a real wake up call

"What did trans people do before surgery?"

They lived their lives in whatever way made them most comfortable. A trans person who doesn't get surgery doesn't stop being trans, just like a woman who doesn't wear a dress doesn't stop being a woman.

I don't know what they did in the past, tbh they probably just suffered through Dysphoria or got killed or smth. What did people with missing limbs do before prosthetics were invented? What did people with autism do before we discovered autism? Or with OCD? They probably just suffered through.

And my opinion has been proven to be true by the science we have today. And I'm not saying they aren't highly interconnected. They absolutely are!!! But they're still different things.

Plus, going by the opinions of our ancestors from 100,000 years ago autism doesn't exist either. We can't rely on tradition for everything, our knowledge is constantly changing and we need to accept that.

They're not being drummed out for conversion therapy. They're being drummed out for speaking out against the propaganda and the blanket recommending of trans procedures for people who don't even show a scintilla of being trans just for the big bucks. You need to stop being all about that money!

Yeah, they shouldn't be drummed out. Trans people and gender Dysphoria are real, but unless they actually are trans, they shouldn't be getting those surgeries...

My opinions on this issue:

People under 16 shouldn't be allowed hormones

People under 18 shouldn't be allowed to get top surgery or facial surgery

People under 25 shouldn't be allowed to get bottom surgery

And they need to have been diagnosed or showing signs of Gender Dysphoria for at least a year before they do anything

"blanket recommending of trans procedures for people who don't even show a scintilla of being trans just for the big bucks"

That doesn't happen

Translation: Transexuals can get surgery if everybody who stands to benefit financially from it (which is everyone) signs off on it. That's how it works. That's why they all do sign off on it. And don't give me the, "There are rare cases in which that's the case" BS. If murder were much more rare that's not a good reason to make it legal! And no, mental health does not go up from transition surgery and all that stuff. It just makes them more delusional. That's a fact.

Translation: you're a conspiracy theorist who thinks doctors are evil people indoctrinating our nation when in reality, you have no clue what you're talking about.

Research actually shows that letting transgender people get gender affirming care improves their mental health and increases their quality of life. Obviously you wouldn't understand that because you don't understand the issue.

It doesn't make them more "delusional" because it's been proving trying to "fix" them being trans and make them cis has only hurt them more. You really don't know what you're talking about.

If you think that's how it works why not become a doctor yourself instead of saying that they are untrustworthy with no evidence. Go to medical school and change how to treat Gender Dysphoria if you're so confident you know better than the professionals.

And I'm not saying trans people are evil but they are mentally ill.

They're not evil or mentally ill

The fact that you think being transgender is a mental illness shows that you don't understand the issue at all

And I'm not denying that. Gender Dysphoria is a mental disorder, but we need to treat it by letting them transition. We've tried to get rid of it by forcing them to be the gender assigned at birth but it just made them feel worse.

It's not like body dysmorphia where we can make them feel otherwise and make them realize the body they have is good enough, we've tried and failed.

It's like autism where we have to help them be allowed to be the gender they are.

You know how women trick men into thinking they're women and then give them the surprise reveal only after they've reached what they think is the point of no return? No? Well, there you go. You know how trans women act nothing like real women at all? Not in any way shape or form? Well, there you go. You know how trans women need all kinds of therapy to justify the way they make their decisions and need constant affirmation of what they think they are just to get through? You know, the way women do? No? Well, there you go. You're getting ridiculous here.

"Medical professionals should be trusted more..." No they shouldn't. Common sense should be trusted. And common sense says trans women aren't women. You know how you really know? Because one of them has a modifier in front of it. "Trans." That means trans women AREN'T women. That's how you win an argument.

Trans women are women. Cis women are women too. Amd honestly medical professionals should be trusted because they know a lot more about this issue than you do. And what do you even mean "they don't act like women" And tbh they don't always need that kind of therapy and whatnot. I do know a trans woman and she is the most feminine person I know, she looks like a woman, sounds like a woman, she is a woman

"You know how trans women act nothing like real women at all?"

They do, though. And your argument falls apart even more when you consider all of the transgender women who pass to the point where you would assume by looking at them that they were born physically female.

"You know how trans women need all kinds of therapy to justify the way they make their decisions and need constant affirmation of what they think they are just to get through?"

They don't

"Common sense should be trusted"

Common sense tells some people that the Earth is flat. Guess what? It's not flat. "Common sense" is a meaningless term.

"And common sense says trans women aren't women. You know how you really know? Because one of them has a modifier in front of it. "Trans." That means trans women AREN'T women."

So you're saying that African-Americans and European Americans and Asian Americans are not actually Americans. Oh, and Native Americans, too. So by your logic, literally nobody lives in this country 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

And they aren't tricking men that they're women. Because they are women.

Plus, most trans people would let their romantic partner know they are trans before doing anything intimate.

You aren't even really winning. Mostly because you're going off inaccurate stereotypes based on personality when no one has the same personality and you're saying medical professionals who know a lot more about this issue than you do are idiots.

I'm pretty sure you're the idiot if you think you know more about medical conditions than medical professionals.

There are also people who feel they're amputees but they're not and they end up amputating an arm or something else. You're justifying harm being visited upon people. The Hypocratic Oath dictates "Do No Harm." Transitioning people and children does all harm. No good. The fact that you've derived anything good about John Money's study says everything about you, unfortunately. All it proves is people shouldn't do that.

Actually, according to basically everyone trans, Transitioning has done them nothing but good.

Also according to people who are trans, conversion therapy (trying to get them to not be trans) was incredibly harmful.

Where are you getting your source that's it's harmful, because it's not people who are actually trans.

"Transitioning people and children does all harm. No good"

The research (actual research done by experts) says the opposite.

Why would I listen to you for a second on what constitutes a real woman? You have a worse grasp on this than I do and you're demonstrating it with every exchange we have. I've got a few working definitions and you have diddly squat. You subscribe to this sort of pseudo-religion where a man can be born in a woman's body and a woman can somehow be born in a man's body. And you say Christians are nuts!

No, I'm laughing you out of this debate. People like me have known what men and women are for 100 thousand years. And you come along and question it now. Why don't you have sex with a hedgehog and create a human out of that for all your "I can't understand what a woman is" argument and hocus pocus? The "I don't know" stuff just doesn't work and the medical community is wrong for embracing it. By the way, it's funny how you say it's right when they've kicked everybody out who've had dissenting opinions. That's "great science" for you. LOL.

*plays a role in gender identity

When did I say Christians are nuts? And I'm not saying listen to me, I'm saying listen to medical professionals who do say sex and gender are different. And species are very different from gender. The brains of trans individuals are shown to align more with the brain of the opposite sex.

Science changes and you don't really want to accept that it's changing.

Gender identity—one's sense of being a man or a woman—is a fundamental perception experienced by all individuals that extends beyond biological sex. Yet, what contributes to our sense of gender remains uncertain. Since individuals who identify as transsexual report strong feelings of being the opposite sex and a belief that their sexual characteristics do not reflect their true gender, they constitute an invaluable model to understand the biological underpinnings of gender identity. We analyzed MRI data of 24 male-to-female (MTF) transsexuals not yet treated with cross-sex hormones in order to determine whether gray matter volumes in MTF transsexuals more closely resemble people who share their biological sex (30 control men), or people who share their gender identity (30 control women). Results revealed that regional gray matter variation in MTF transsexuals is more similar to the pattern found in men than in women. However, MTF transsexuals show a significantly larger volume of regional gray matter in the right putamen compared to men. These findings provide new evidence that transsexualism is associated with distinct cerebral pattern, which supports the assumption that brain anatomy plays a ro

"You subscribe to this sort of pseudo-religion where a man can be born in a woman's body and a woman can somehow be born in a man's body. And you say Christians are nuts!"

Believing in magic and talking animals and people floating up into the clouds is actually nuts. I'm sorry if you can't understand that it is possible for somebody's physical body to not match their mental and emotional understanding of who they are. It's a very difficult concept for some people to grasp.

"People like me have known what men and women are for 100 thousand years. And you come along and question it now"

different cultures have understood for many thousands of years that not everybody fits into the male or female binary. Just because you come from a culture that believes that doesn't mean every other culture throughout history thinks the same way. You live in a bubble so you think everyone else looks at the world the same way you do.

"Why don't you have sex with a hedgehog and create a human out of that"

They are two different species. Didn't you know that?

Gotta love how you justify mutilation surgery by claiming people want it. People might want to cut off their hand. It's still not good for them.

Your religion mutilates babies through circumcision, are you okay with that? And that's not even their own choice.

It's been proven to be better for their mental health. Besides, not all trans people get the surgeries because they either can't afford it or they know the risks. Plus, in order for trans women to actually get the surgeries they need:
Long-lasting, well-documented and professionally diagnosed gender dysphoria.
Ability to make a fully informed decision and permit healthcare providers to provide treatment (consent).
In some areas, you may need to be 18 or older.
Being in control of medical or mental health conditions.
Referrals or letters of recommendation from two qualified mental healthcare providers.
At least 12 ongoing months of feminizing hormone therapy.

It's not easy to get the surgeries and it's more than that they want it. They can't say "oh I'm actually a girl so you need to cut off my d!ck.

Intersex is also a genetic mutation or a case of something going wrong. Have you ever heard of the exception that proves the rule? Nuance often escapes democrats.

"Nuance often escapes democrats"

Ironic coming from somebody who believes that 8 billion people fit into one of only two boxes: male or female

Funny, I'm not a Democrat. And the thing is that the exception doesn't prove the rule in this case because of HOW MANY exceptions there are:

Women with testicles
Women with XY chromosomes
Women without periods
Plus there's also men without testicles and some of them are also born with a va**na

So what makes someone a woman in your mind?

You should watch the Matt Walsh documentary What Is A Woman? It will open your eyes to a lot of the crap going on these days.

"documentary" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I can't find it on YouTube. Wanna summarize?

You're just bringing in fabricated BS and calling it evidence. It's not true. A lot more people regret transitioning now than before.

Really? How many people then?

Doctors ARE evil people indoctrinating our nation for the sake of money. You would only be citing the studies which favor your side but that actually show no real validity. For example, any study can show trans people don't revert if they cut off the time period very quickly, as your crap studies are shown to do. Try waiting ten years down the line and see if that number of people who revert to their original sex goes up. I'll give you a free clue, it does. When you go past a month it increases big time.

I've also seen the footage of staff at hospitals shaking down any medical professional who gets a bit of the jitters and has moral qualms about transing kids and other people. It's not pretty. I'm pretty sure you don't want to bother seeing it, though, because it blows your narrative wide open. That's okay. Honest inquiry is not for you.

Yup, conspiracy theorist. And you're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of. You're dismissing any potential evidence that says you're incorrect. And instead of actual evidence on the effect of allowing trans kids to transition you're siting, what? TikTok videos about people getting mad?

Maybe if you want your argument to actually work look up the harmful effects transitioning kids will have on society.

Plus, the number of detranistioners may go up some, but the cause of detranistioning usually isn't that they weren't trans, but instead the fact that they are bullied for being trans. How do you know how high the numbers will be anyway? You're not even really siting anything, last time I brought up detranistioning, it was from a statistic in 2022, and that only 1% detranistion. In 2024 the numbers were still the same, news article about detranistioning says: only 1 percent of people report to a surgeon who did an operation that they regret it!

Besides, even if the regret rate does go up, it won't erase the fact that trans people do exist and some had to wait until there 50s or 60s before being able to transition.

If you're so concerned about this, why not become a doctor yourself and stop it? Why not learn actual facts about this stuff instead of just being a conspiracy theorist, what are you anti-vaxx too?

"Try waiting ten years down the line and see if that number of people who revert to their original sex goes up. I'll give you a free clue, it does. When you go past a month it increases big time."

A month? Sure thing 😂😂😂😂😂

"I've also seen the footage of staff at hospitals shaking down any medical professional who gets a bit of the jitters and has moral qualms about transing kids and other people"

Sure you have 😉 totally believable 😉

You see what I'm saying with gender and sex? It's always been the same. If you're going to say it's different then you need to draw the line. You haven't done that. You haven't even attempted it. You just said it like it's true and it's not. No. That's not how it works. So draw the line.

Alright:

Sex is the physical characteristics of your body, the reproductive system, the gentiles, the hormones and the results of those hormones.

Gender is how you would feel comfortable being seen and how you want to referred to as.

You should look into the true histories of people like Alfred Kinsey and John Money. It's sick stuff and the stuff is not useful except to people who want to prey on others for money. The dollars are flying in from dysphoria.

You're talking about Kinsey and Money as if they're the be-all-end-all of sexual research

You do realize Dysphoria is real right? Even denying them we've found evidence in the grey matter of the brain showing that it does relate.

And another doctor accidentally dosed himself with estrogen and he ended freaking out because of the changes his body took because he was a guy no matter what his body looked like.

Trans women are women because gender is psychological and sex is physical. They are related but aren't the same thing.

And remember the exception proves the rule thing you brought up? Detranistioners are the exception, less than 1% of trans people detranistion, the rest feel more happy once their body matches their gender.

If gender dysphoria wasn't real wouldn't EVERYONE detranistion?

What did women do before surgery? Nothing. They were just women. What did "trans women" do before surgery? Nothing. They were just men. See?

It's really sad that you view people as just their physical characteristics and nothing else

They were still women. Why? Sex and gender are 2 different things

Hypothetical scenario: you wake up in the body of the opposite sex, what would your gender be/how would you refer to yourself

My argument is "men are men and women are women" and your argument is "I don't know" and fart. So yes, as a matter of fact I am winning and so is anyone who uses common sense and simple facts on this issue. There are major biological differences between men and women. Just because you don't know about them or claim ignorance doesn't make you right. It actually makes you more wrong.

Hypothetical scenario: you wake up in the body of the opposite sex, what would your gender be/how would you refer to yourself

Why won't you answer that question?

You are NOT in pursuit of the truth here. You're just chasing down lies. They've tricked you.

I think you've tricked yourself bud. We've tried to make trans people not trans but it made them feel even worse. You literally have been using opinions in almost everything you've said,

Have you ever even talked to a trans person?! They aren't bad people for being trans.

I'll give you another problem with the studies. They expect the people who detransition to go back to the clinics that harmed them to do so. "They didn't go to the abusers who abused them in the first place. Therefore they didn't detransition." Yes, they did. They simply went somewhere else.

It more sounds like you're saying you don't know how many people detranistioned. And if you don't actually know, why should I trust what you say more than the statistics?

No they don't, it just said they told someone, they still would have most likely recorded it if they went to another clinic. So again I ask, if a lot more people detranistioned, how many people?

You don't want to go down the "sex and gender are different things" path. That's the John Money path and he was a terrible person.

He was a terrible person but his psychological studies were useful

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6312677058112

Do have any neutral news sources that don't give political Bias? Your news source is specifically Republican and will portray anything otherwise in a negative light. I don't watch CNN for a similar reason, they're too liberal and democratic. Any politically neutral news sources that stay unbiased?

Agreed in general.

Yes, I do have evidence that dissenters are being drummed out of the community. You want to see it?

Sure

Give all these people enough time and you'll find that with the artificial inflation of transitioners 90% at least will detransition. That's how much the trend has caused and how much mental illness the gender dysphoria industry has caused.

But think for yourself for once in your life. Say a man puts on a woman's body parts and starts calling himself a woman. Is that normal?

You keep saying 'give it time' but you don't actually know if they'll detranistion. And gender and sex are two different things. It's not wrong to be trans.

You're MAKING UP statistics for the future based on no evidence.

"Give all these people enough time and you'll find that with the artificial inflation of transitioners 90% at least will detransition"

Prove it. Where are the scientific studies that support that?

"Say a man puts on a woman's body parts and starts calling himself a woman. Is that normal?"

Nobody is doing that. And "normal" isn't the same as "good". Cutting the foreskins off babies is normal, but not necessarily good.

"Please keep your sexual fantasies to yourself when you're on this website"

tekbarrier, this comment alone proves how dishonest you are around here. You've been so progressive all this time and yet when I start "sexually fantasizing" which is your characterization you suddenly become the biggest prude and puritan in the world! I'm not going to give an audience for your disingenuous mode of argumentation and I'm going to recommend nobody else do so either. You are pathetic.

This is moronic. If I say, "A human has two arms and two legs." You're just going to go, "What about Jeff? Someone cut off one of his arms. Jeff only has one arm. Is he not human?" And you are acting like a democrat right here and right now.

No. But trying to define arms is different from defining a gender. There aren't as many exceptions to that rule as there are to what a woman is.

Plus, because there are plenty of biological females with XY chromosomes and everything, what's so wrong with trans women?

Maybe the exception does prove the rule, but even then, what's wrong with trans women or trans men? Wouldn't they be an exception as well?

Please keep your sexual fantasies to yourself when you're on this website

I seriously don't think there are as many exceptions as you say. Before transtrending was a thing trans people were 700k out of the country's 300 million population. That's actually a very small percentage. Less than 1%. In fact, less than a fraction of that.

And for the record, I consider transgenderism to be a mental illness. It is a dysphoria, after all. And the only reason it would be normalized is because it's so profitable for the medical industry. Satan doesn't need money to get people to do evil but it sure helps.

Plus, you never said what was wrong with people being trans.

"Before transtrending was a thing"

It's not a thing

"And for the record, I consider transgenderism to be a mental illness"

You're not a medical expert, so your opinion on the matter is meaningless

"It is a dysphoria, after all"

Having gender dysphoria and being transgender aren't the same thing

"And the only reason it would be normalized is because it's so profitable for the medical industry"

It certainly couldn't have anything to do with the fact that as transgender people are becoming more accepted, they are more open about who they are because they don't feel the need to hide their true selves

"Satan doesn't need money to get people to do evil but it sure helps"

Like flooding the earth and drowning all the babies? My mistake, that was god. It's so easy to get them mixed up.

There will always be an exception to how you define a woman or a man. No matter how you define them there's always at least one exception.

And I'd argue it's just as much of a mental illness as autism is. It COULD be considered like that, but it's so stigmatized to say it, due to the only people saying it being the people who hate them.

Also, the fact that you don't really trust the medical professionals in favor of your religion is quite telling on your personality. Medical professionals should be trusted more often.

People will look back on TS surgery as barbaric and worse than lobotomy. You know about lobotomy? It's not looked upon with a favorable light now. Either you can be on the right side of history on this one or the wrong side. It's too bad you seem hell bent on choosing the wrong side. god have mercy on your soul for this.

I know what lobotomy is, but the problem is you can't say what the future will hold. With our current evidence, so many people who have transitioned don't regret it, and you keep trying to say that they will when you can't speak for those people you don't know.

We had so much evidence that these people are HAPPY with transitioning, which wasn't the case with Lobotomy which literally destroyed who you were as a person since it basically erased your personality.

Gender affirming surgery helps so many people, and we've tried conversion therapy as a society but you wanna know what happened? Those people felt WORSE than they originally were, not better.

You don't seem to understand that lobotomies were done to people often against their will. Gender affirming care is not forced on people against their will.

The people who thought that being gay was a dangerous and harmful mental illness were on the wrong side of history, and that's exactly the same argument you're trying to make

Your views on sex and gender are regressive and wrong. Everything you believe or claim to believe here is a lie or you're trolling me. There is no reason you should not know the difference between a man and a woman when we've known it for over 100,000 years now. I've brought experience and sexual reproduction itself to the table while you've brought a wet fart in a paper bag. And frankly you're not a very bright person. You just follow the studies and do what you're told. Enjoy your pod.

Our information is constantly growing. We didn't know what autism was until 1943. Is autism also a scam created by doctors?

I've brought actual evidence. You've brought opinions. And yes, I am following the studies because they know more than you do. We have little evidence to suggest Gender Affirming care is a bad thing since less than 1% of people regret transitioning and only 8% detranistion, most people who detranistion don't even regret it, they just didn't want to deal with people like you saying they shouldn't be allowed to exist and be themselves.

There's nothing wrong with being trans. How am I the idiot for using real evidence instead of making up statistics trying to say what the future holds? The only evidence you even provided was from a highly biased news source that tried to make the democratic party seem awful! News sources with any political bias shouldn't be trusted.

"Your views on sex and gender are regressive and wrong"

Ironic

"There is no reason you should not know the difference between a man and a woman when we've known it for over 100,000 years now"

You really need to stop pretending that you know what every single person and every single culture throughout history has believed, especially when we have documented evidence and historical records that prove you're wrong

"And frankly you're not a very bright person"

Ironic