Just say you don't know.

I thought the MAGAt was gonna say Biden but I'd say it was Trump. Just look at what happened with Jared Kushner

imgflip.com/i/7w2cw1

Sounds like Joe Biden... Except that Hunter only got a position at Burisma, and few other Intelligence Community fronts...

Sorry. I should have said 'Please select the BEST answer.'

Good point. I think Biden probably has the greatest deficit increase, too.

Well Obama and Biden are both up there, given that they had to remedy damages done by their predecessors. This has been a consistent strategy by the GOP for decades: rack up costs by mismanagement and failure to address problems, then cry "Overspending!" when the Dems clean up the mess. Not the best way to steer a ship.

Obama's economic policy was actually good. He got America out of the GFC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-18/barack-obamas-economic-legacy-might-be-judged-well-by-history/8191220

Man that's an ass-kissing article - from one of Australia's OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD substations.

Obama's "recovery" worked out 'ok', over on Wall Street... Main Street never saw it. He failed to end the war in Afghanistan - actually re-intensifying it, in fact. That's great for Weapons makers and Wall Street (his patrons and benefactors), but doesn't do much for the people left jobless in 2007-2011.

I lived through that economy - and it worked out swell for the 1%ers... Not so much for the 99% - which is why we started Occupy Wall Street. Obama used DHS and local police Intelligence Units to smash that movement, when Democrats were incapable of infiltrating, co-opting and subverting it.

I think that applies better to Obama than Biden. Trump had the whole catastrophe of the Plandemic and the Lockdown, the "CARES ACT" etc. - which he couldn't really pushback against - or I suspect that the deficit would have held steady, or perhaps even shrunk a little bit, under him. Which isn't to say that I support his spending priorities, or his Tax cuts fir the 1%>

But Biden has overseen a huge elective spending spree on Imperialist Military Expansion, the war that he deliberately provoked in Ukraine, the huge payouts to Big Pfharma, over shots that nobody (in their right mind) really wants, etc.. And people in Maui and East Palestine, Ohio basically get jack shit. They need better lobbyists, I suppose.

let me tell you two secrets that can help to avoid financial catastrophes on personal or national scale: don't create problems in the first place, and learn how to think for yourself. it won't be easy to learn the hows and whys of it, but the payoff in quality of life is huge.

I am familiar with both notions... Better tell that to "The Big Guy". He seems to let Nuland Sullivan and Blinken do the thinking on some of his biggest messes...and Cheney, Gates, Fauci and Schwab create the problems, and then the solutions, relative to the BioSecurity State.

Rubbish! Biden didn't provoke Ukraine, Russia just wanted to invade Ukraine to "denazify" them, when in fact Ukraine hardly have any nazis.

You have a rich fantasy life, kid... Or very bad sources of information.

As for "hardly have any Nazis" - imgflip.com/gif/6dbe98 . That's a Lie - and it's important to realize that they're holding all the levers of power in Kiev, regardless of their number. If Roman Shukevich and Stepan Bandera are "Heros of Ukraine" - you have no small Nazi problem.

There's been (what are essentially) Nazis, in Ukraine since the 1st World War - particularly in the western areas, like Carpathia. They seized power with a CIA-orchestrated coup in 2014.

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/06/10/how-monsters-who-had-beaten-jews-to-death-with-hammers-in-1944-became-americas-favorite-freedom-fighters-in-1945-with-a-little-help-from-their-friends-at-cia/

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/07/29/what-the-u-s-government-and-the-new-york-times-have-quietly-agreed-not-to-tell-you-about-ukraine/

So then...why wait 8 years?

It's because the US ("NATO") had been building Ukraine an Army, under the cover of the Minsk Agreements, which Ukraine had never honored, but which Russia did. They got snookered by the West, as Francois Hollande and Angela Merkel have both admitted.

By the Fall of 2021, the Ukrainians had begun massing troops on the borders of the DPR, LPR and Russia. They were also cutting off water to Crimea. Then Zelensky started talking about joining NATO (as instructed by his handlers in UK/US Intelligence - despite the fact that he'd already been told that wasn't going to happen) and getting Nuclear weapons (minutes from Moscow), at the Munich Security Conference. These were all deliberate provocations, on the Red Lines previously spelled out by Russia, to the West. And Russia responded proportionally, and accordingly to these escalations in the conflict.

THEN Ukraine began to massively ramp up their warcrimes (deliberately shelling civilians and non-military infrastructure) in the Donbass - as reported even by the West's OSCE. Russia made one last attempt at a diplomatic resolution in December of 2021 - and NATO laughed in their faces. Bad Move. This war was ALWAYS the US/NeoCon plan. Read "The Grand Chessboard" by Brzezinski (1996).

"As for "hardly have any Nazis" - imgflip.com/gif/6dbe98 ."

A meme won't change my mind.

"That's a Lie - and it's important to realize that they're holding all the levers of power in Kiev, regardless of their number."

The leader of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is no nazi. He's in fact a jew.

"If Roman Shukevich and Stepan Bandera are "Heros of Ukraine" - you have no small Nazi problem."

There has always been far-right fringe groups in Ukraine just like any other country, even the US. Does this mean that they have a nazi problem? Nope. Sure they may have a fascist problem because of the rise of MAGA, but they're just currently in opposition. Russia however, have been worse off. They have a long history of neo-nazis

https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis

"There's been (what are essentially) Nazis, in Ukraine since the 1st World War - particularly in the western areas, like Carpathia. They seized power with a CIA-orchestrated coup in 2014. "

Muh, far-left propaganda. Something both that the far-right and the far-left agree with.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/covertaction-magazine-bias/#google_vignette

"So then...why wait 8 years?

It's because the US ("NATO") had been building Ukraine an Army, under the cover of the Minsk Agreements, which Ukraine had never honored, but which Russia did. They got snookered by the West, as Francois Hollande and Angela Merkel have both admitted.

By the Fall of 2021, the Ukrainians had begun massing troops on the borders of the DPR, LPR and Russia. They were also cutting off water to Crimea. Then Zelensky started talking about joining NATO (as instructed by his handlers in UK/US Intelligence - despite the fact that he'd already been told that wasn't going to happen) and getting Nuclear weapons (minutes from Moscow), at the Munich Security Conference. These were all deliberate provocations, on the Red Lines previously spelled out by Russia, to the West. And Russia responded proportionally, and accordingly to these escalations in the conflict"

False, Putin escalated the war to become an invasion because he claims the west is going to destroy Russia.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-crossroads-europe-and-russia

"THEN Ukraine began to massively ramp up their warcrimes"

Fake new! That's Russia that have been committing war crimes. Ukraine have just been strategic in its attacks

When you write things like this - it becomes harder and harder to take you seriously, young man.

The shelling of civilians, in areas of the Donbass with no military infrastructure, is a persistent pattern followed by the Kiev-Regime and its Nazi troops - ever since they declared their Civil War in the East and South, under the false title of an "Anti-Terrorist Operation", back in 2014.

They've been using a banned form of anti-personnel cluster munitions called "Petal Mines" on civilian areas, devoud of any military value or infrastructure, in Donetsk and Lughansk, killing and maiming hundreds if not thousands, and often children, since the use them near schools, playgrounds and parks. https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/the-west-is-silent-as-ukraine-targets-civilians-in-donetsk-using-banned-petal-mines/

Eva K Bartlett is a brave and independent Canadian Journalist - I could care less what your "MediaBias Fact Check"ers think. They're rated at "100%" by "NewsGuard" - funded by US and UK Military and PSYOPS ventures. And it should be pointed out that they gave Covert Action a "Left" political orientation, and a "Mixed" reporting rating. Which is funny, in a way. Their list of authors are a diverse bunch, and often disagree with each other, and sometimes even the ostensible editorial position of the publication. They were founded by Philip Agee, a former CIA Case Officer, who broke ranks, after coming to the conclusion that what the Agency was up to, was no good - for the world, and even America. He was a Whistle Blower, who sacrificed his career and his personal safety, to tell the truth. Your fake left friend Joe Biden wanted to send a message, to discourage others from following suit - a pattern he continues in regards to your countryman, Julian Assange, a journalist who'd sworn no oaths to protect dirty US secrets.

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/03/03/joe-biden-wanted-to-lock-up-my-father-cia-whistleblower-philip-agee-just-like-he-wants-to-lock-up-edward-snowden-and-julian-assange/

Instead of just getting a "rating" from a Whitehall/FCO and CIA/Pentagon/State Dept. approved narrative management operation...to excuse yourself from learning anything... Why don't you try reading the fine historical review by Evan Reif (who was happy to tell you that he's an actual lefty), checking his footnotes and then coming back with some substantial critique, rather than ad hominem dismissal? His body of work in the publication is extensive.

"The shelling of civilians, in areas of the Donbass with no military infrastructure, is a persistent pattern followed by the Kiev-Regime and its Nazi troops - ever since they declared their Civil War in the East and South, under the false title of an "Anti-Terrorist Operation", back in 2014."

Firstly, it's not a false title. Secondly, this was a counter-terrorism operation as Russia wanted to disrupt the May 5th elections in Ukraine.

https://press.un.org/en/2014/sc11351.doc.htm

"They've been using a banned form of anti-personnel cluster munitions called "Petal Mines" on civilian areas, devoud of any military value or infrastructure, in Donetsk and Lughansk, killing and maiming hundreds if not thousands, and often children, since the use them near schools, playgrounds and parks. https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/the-west-is-silent-as-ukraine-targets-civilians-in-donetsk-using-banned-petal-mines/ "

Your sourcing is found to have been known for Russian-propaganda, which the source is based in Russia.

But as for your main point, yes Ukraine may have used a handful of these landmines, but Russia has used them more often.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/01/31/ukraine-banned-landmines-harm-civilians

"Eva K Bartlett is a brave and independent Canadian Journalist - I could care less what your "MediaBias Fact Check"ers think. They're rated at "100%" by "NewsGuard" - funded by US and UK Military and PSYOPS ventures."

There is no evidence that NewsGuard said that Eva K Bartlett is rated at 100% by NewsGuard. Yes she may be American-Canadian, but she's Russian based. She's even a conspiracy theorist and has made theories linked to the Syrian Civil War...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/syria-white-helmets-conspiracy-theories

"Your fake left friend Joe Biden wanted to send a message, to discourage others from following suit - a pattern he continues in regards to your countryman, Julian Assange, a journalist who'd sworn no oaths to protect dirty US secrets."

But many Australian politicians, even two high profile Greens senators David Shoebridge and Peter Whish-Wilson who are wanting Julian Assange free. I honestly haven't followed too much on Julian Assange but its a bipartisan issue in Australia where practically everyone in Australia would support the freeing of Julian Assange.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/05/australian-mps-to-lobby-us-to-drop-julian-assange-prosecution-or-risk-very-dangerous-precedent-for-russia-and-china

"Instead of just getting a "rating" from a Whitehall/FCO and CIA/Pentagon/State Dept. approved narrative management operation...to excuse yourself from learning anything... Why don't you try reading the fine historical review by Evan Reif (who was happy to tell you that he's an actual lefty), checking his footnotes and then coming back with some substantial critique, rather than ad hominem dismissal? His body of work in the publication is extensive."

I know there are always a handful of lefties, even the Green Party's only candidate Cornel West who is borderline Far-Left who makes unproven claims regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cornel-west-green-party-presidential-candidate-bias-profile/

So when you say that "a meme won't change my mind" (setting aside that it's a Gif - taken from a video shot inside a Kiev Mall - on BANDERA BLVD), what you're really saying, is that you're incapable of being moved by evidence. In Russia they have no malls with Swastika Imagery, nor any streets named after Waffen SS "Heroes of [Russia]". Ukraine does. I see no protests occurring, in that Gif - do you? What would the reaction be to such a thing, in the USA or Australia? There'd be a literal Riot, here in my country, and some looting too, no doubt. How about yours?

Canada ... Well that's a little trickier... since ~ 5000 Waffen SS, Nazi Ukrainian collaborators were brought there after WWII, and were then part of the Ukrainian Nationalist movement in exile, which was then re-imported into Ukraine, after the USSR collapsed. That was who was behind the "Orange Revolution", that your garbage historian called "democratic", while trying to invert the Nazi reality, from Ukraine to Russia. Clearly his piece is transparent propaganda, grasping at straws - as part of the Western Intelligence' PSYOPS efforts, shortly after Russia's SMO/entry into the Ukrainian Civil War - from March of 2022.

While the following two shows below, are carried on RT - they're independently produced. None of the people speaking are Russians. They're explaining the reality that you refuse to look at - and that this Dr. Horvath is obviously trying to cover-up, by deflection, with a series of apples and oranges comparisons. Russians proudly wear St. George's ribbons - a symbol of the victory over Nazism in "The Great Patriotic War"... In Kiev-Regime controlled areas, they're outlawed, just as they are in the Baltic Republics.

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/583862-west-protecting-nazis-problem/

https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/583821-canadian-parliament-waffen-ss-veteran/

Zelensky's faux-Jewishness (his father was Jewish, but Jewish descent is matrilineal) vs Nazi Ukraine - is addressed pretty well in these. He's not the first Jew to collaborate with Nazis. He's a "capo".

This next piece IS produced by RT. BUT, it prominently features the analysis of two US Marines. Please educate yourself better, by watching what they have to say.
https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/580416-us-encouraged-ukraine-hybrid-war/

You 're taking the US Establishment CFR at face value, so you should be open to hearing from the other side, too.

"So when you say that "a meme won't change my mind" (setting aside that it's a Gif - taken from a video shot inside a Kiev Mall - on BANDERA BLVD), what you're really saying, is that you're incapable of being moved by evidence."

What evidence? Russian propaganda? That ain't evidence at all, it is in fact lies that come from Putin. Close to a million Russians have fled Russia since the Kremlin invaded Ukraine...

https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/09/west-should-help-not-hinder-russias-anti-war-exiles

"In Russia they have no malls with Swastika Imagery, nor any streets named after Waffen SS "Heroes of [Russia]"."

The closest thing to being Swastika Imagery with Russia is the Z symbol

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/09/1085471200/the-letter-z-russia-ukraine

"Ukraine does. I see no protests occurring, in that Gif - do you?"

Ukraine doesn't have a swastika, that was a Russian citizen...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/08/fact-check-man-pictured-swastika-tattoo-russian-not-ukranian/10838038002/

"While the following two shows below, are carried on RT - they're independently produced. None of the people speaking are Russians. They're explaining the reality that you refuse to look at - and that this Dr. Horvath is obviously trying to cover-up, by deflection, with a series of apples and oranges comparisons. Russians proudly wear St. George's ribbons - a symbol of the victory over Nazism in "The Great Patriotic War"... In Kiev-Regime controlled areas, they're outlawed, just as they are in the Baltic Republics.

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/583862-west-protecting-nazis-problem/

https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/583821-canadian-parliament-waffen-ss-veteran/"

Complete utter nonsense! RT is literally funded by Putin. And no it is not independently produced.

"Zelensky's faux-Jewishness (his father was Jewish, but Jewish descent is matrilineal) vs Nazi Ukraine - is addressed pretty well in these. He's not the first Jew to collaborate with Nazis. He's a "capo"."

Fake news! Pro-Israel centre-right media says that Volodymyr Zelensky is Jewish and has zero ties to any neo-Nazi movement.

https://jewishunpacked.com/who-is-volodymyr-zelensky-the-jewish-president-of-ukraine/

"This next piece IS produced by RT. BUT, it prominently features the analysis of two US Marines. Please educate yourself better, by watching what they have to say.
https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary/580416-us-encouraged-ukraine-hybrid-war/"

The US marines' part would probably be edited by Putin to make Putin seem like the good guy.

"You're taking the US Establishment CFR at face value, so you should be open to hearing from the other side, too."

We know what the other side says by what the truth shows. There have been plenty of people in Russia who don't even trust the media and they know what is going on with Russia invading Ukraine.

Biden only got debt because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the COVID pandemic, and lack of climate action from Trump. Whereas Trump's deficit came from stupid policies like tax cuts

Biden got Debt because he PROVOKED Russia into invading Ukraine - and imposed sanctions designed perfectly to destroy the economies of the West, (The USA and Germany, particularly) - but which had only minimal effects upon Russia.

How did the PLANDEMIC hurt Biden - the ineffective and unscientific "lockdowns" were over by the time he took office. If anything - the Economy was affected by Biden's POOR handling of all things Plandemic related, since he took office - causing massive job losses, with his unlawful mandated human medical experimentation.

Pissing off the Saudis and OPEC+ didn't help anything, either.

Trump was forced into signing things like the "CARES ACT", by the Democrats in control of Congress, and their allies in DNCIA Media, like CNN. THAT was the greatest upward transfer of wealth in human history - all deficit spending. Biden doubled down on that with even more spending, with the Orwellianly-titled "Inflation Reduction Act", and then underwriting the escalation of the Ukrainian Civil War, which caused Russia to intervene.

"Biden got Debt because he PROVOKED Russia into invading Ukraine - and imposed sanctions designed perfectly to destroy the economies of the West, (The USA and Germany, particularly) - but which had only minimal effects upon Russia."

The Russian invasion of Ukraine didn't help with debt, but debt was already growing fast under Trump through tax cuts.

"How did the PLANDEMIC hurt Biden - the ineffective and unscientific "lockdowns" were over by the time he took office. If anything - the Economy was affected by Biden's POOR handling of all things Plandemic related, since he took office - causing massive job losses, with his unlawful mandated human medical experimentation."

Didn't conservatives say that COVID came from a lab?

Scientists who looked at the unique (PATENTED) features of COVID are the first ones who said that it came from a Lab. I'm to your left, and I've been saying it all along, knowing about the US Military/CIA BioWeapons research programs into coronaviruses, going back several years prior to this DELIBERATE RELEASE.

http://dilyana.bg/project-g-2101-pentagon-biolab-discovered-mers-and-sars-like-coronaviruses-in-bats/

http://web.archive.org/web/20200713161459/https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-state-tv-host-covid-19-came-lab-leak-united-states

Things like the "Inflation Reduction Act", the Proxy War in Ukraine, and soaring Military spending, explain the surging debt under Biden.

There is still no determination in the origin of COVID-19, which there is still no proof of it coming from a lab, yet conservatives previously believed it didn't even exist. Yes Trump personally believed it was a hoax but to be professional, he labelled it as the "Chinese Virus" and "Kung Flu".

Which the Inflation Reduction Act helped American workers and families since being signed by creating more than 170,000 clean energy jobs, reducing energy and health care costs for families, and making the tax code fairer.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/scicheck-still-no-determination-on-covid-19-origin/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/us/politics/china-virus.html

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/16/fact-sheet-one-year-in-president-bidens-inflation-reduction-act-is-driving-historic-climate-action-and-investing-in-america-to-create-good-paying-jobs-and-reduce-costs/