Well, hopefully he knows what's going on. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I see something that sounds evil, and think it's more apathy. It's a lack of caring, while pursuing a goal. Collateral damage. But I'm at a point where I can't logically think anything besides "This guy's a ****ing psycho.". Abbott, DeSantis, and too many others. There are some seriously sadistic policies going around these days. Maybe psychological exams need to be a prerequisite for running for office? It's honestly blowing my mind.