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In the USA, citizens and visiting foreigners with a passport,
are read their Miranda Rights, while being arrested for
committing a felony, then given a court appointed defense attorney
paid for by the taxpayer, if they cannot afford one, to ensure the accused is given a fair trial.
A jury of their peers is assembled and must be convinced by evidence submitted
at trial being convicted then sentenced to do prison time.

It is the fairest system in history, ever devised to enforce laws to protect the rights of other free citizens
from suffering an imposition imposed upon them by a perpetrator.

When you blanketly pardon all felonious criminals, because they are incarcerated, rather than
eliminated or hanged, drawn, and quartered, for their capital offenses, you are saying to a free society that they must suffer as victims of felons and are slaves to any criminal whim.

Prisons are humane places to allow violent criminals to live, and contemplate the actions they chose to freely perpetrate felonies against neighbors, Free people whom have an equal right to live without harm from criminal behavior.

When you advocate for convicted prisoners, you are not for equal treatment under the law for the victims of their crimes. You are for special rights for people whom chose to do wrong unto others.

Is the system perfect? No. Rarely, people get convicted of crimes they do not commit. Under this system, it is minimal and rare and ought to be so. It's better than what you advocate for.
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Sweden's prison system is a hell of a lot more effective than America's BTW. I don't think America's prison slavery should be legal; I don't think private prisons should be legal either.
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Great point.
Does it matter that the population of the city of Houston, Texas is
greater than the nation of Sweden? Fairly easy to be effective on a small scale.

Are you next going to state that Sweden's non-lockdown policy during the Pandemic is a hell of a lot more effective than America's Lockdown Policy BTW?

Nobody could argue with you there either, as they had no more percentage incidents of virus than anywhere else. Sweden just did not choose to react to the virus, by ruining their entire economy, and put their own citizens out of business while at the same time suffering others in their society, albeit statistically few, horrifically got sick and died.

Does it also matter to consider that you are injecting the word slavery into a discussion
when slavery is illegal in America. What are you even talking about?

Nobody is arguing with your point that slavery should be illegal, as it already is not legal.
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Maybe the city of Houston could become a full member of NATO?
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Cops are no longer required to read you your rights.https://www.bryanlawyer.com/blog/2022/june/do-the-police-still-have-to-read-my-miranda-righ/
Prisons are "humane places..." Not in America. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65267971
I didn't say to release everyone; nice strawman you got there.
If the American justice system was just white-collar crime and blue-collar crime would be treated the same. Coke would not be punished less than crack, and addiction would be medicalized and not criminalized. I also take issue with the way no one went to jail from PG&E when they murdered a slew of people here in CA. The scammer banks got away with their subprime mortgage scam, while people lost their homes in droves, and then the banks got paid by the government for f**king people over with scammer loans.
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Also, I am a survivor of abuse and attempted murder. Don't use survivors of violent crimes to lecture me on what's ethical on that topic. I never said abusers and murderers and those who rape others shouldn't go to jail.
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I'm sorry for your suffering as a survivor.
How was I to know?
Was I to read between the lines? Or, just get a feeling?

Who do you think is in USA Prisons, besides abusers, murderers, thieves, rapists and felons?
Do tell

I was advocating on their behalf, not lecturing you on ethics, as your meme lectures others on ethics.
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Well,
in the USA, they've ALL individually had a fair trial, and either pleaded guilty, or had enough overwhelming evidence presented at their fair trial, prior to being convicted beyond a reasonable doubt of a Felony.

What is your proposal for a solution to encourage people to refrain from committing felony actions, so the numbers of convicts in prisons go down, and so less people are convicted of crimes, because they chose not to perform felonious acitons? Therefore, they'll lead a free life outside of incarceration.

-Such a Swanky thought that your USSR/USA meme shit-talk might be just surface shit-talk.
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If you were right Leonard Peltier would never have gone to prison.
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You sound like that COMMIE, Angela Davis, the protege' of Dr. Herbert Marcuse,
the Marxist trained advocate for the the abolishment of prisons.
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*Not that being a COMMIE is a bad thing.
Wear it loud, RED, and proud.
Senator McArthy of Wisconsin is no longer around to sound the alarm that the sky is falling.
Today, all political ideals are fashionable and accepted as FREE neighbors.
Even COMMIE's that wish to impose their collective group Will, upon their individual neighbors.
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I'd hardly consider Angela Davis a communist anymore; she supports the Capitalist Democrat Party.
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Upon the fall of the USSR, Angela Davis as President of the Communist Party USA, (CPUSA)
completely disbanded it as it was, let's just say, less than Popular, and effectively put LipStick On that political party PIG, by founding a new Marxist-Leninist party in it's Ashes... The Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS)

HARDLY A "CAPITALIST DEMOCRAT PARTY" to quote your sentence above.

To say Angela is for a capitalist democracy, is to say the the USSR, was United, and Socialist, and a Republic all simultaneously for it was in their own name.

When Angela says Socialism, she means by Committee Komrade. She means Communist-Socialist advocating for a SOVIET TYPE PLANNED ECONOMY. Again, when Angela says DEMOCRACY, she means German Democracy of the Frankfort School. The EAST GERMAN LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY. (LDP) behind the Iron Curtain. One that is more Marxist-Leninist-Henkel, the likes of Ernst Bloch and Herbert Marcuse her mentor, than even an ounce of capitalist at all.

It's like if you're an East-German communist-socialist, and you put the name FREE in your Party name, yet you despise the works for individual rights of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Payne, Patrick Henry and George Mason.
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https://academic.oup.com/leobaeck/article-abstract/21/1/143/1038443?redirectedFrom=PDF
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https://www.commondreams.org/news/horrors-of-socialism
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You act flippantly, as if Angela washed off her communism with the capitalist soap of the democrat party.

One imagines ones ignorance proceeds them, when such statements are made. Get to reading girl, you've got work to do to learn whom Angela Davis really is, inside her immoral heart, prior to speaking out for her.
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as the saying goes, "a people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
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She supported capitalists HRC and Biden; enough said.
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There you go again...

...those birds of a feather flock together with John Kerry, and Barry Sotero
in their Adoration of the Marxist-Socialism of Henry Kissinger, Antonio Gramsci, Tom Mboya,
and Herbert Marcuse, the Father of the NEW LEFT.
Hardly capitalists.
Such folly. These people have never purchased a bar of capitalist soap.

https://www.britannica.com/money/topic/economic-planning/The-Gorbachev-reform-agenda
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Marxist-Leninists OUGHT to be Marginalized and Excluded
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Look up the political compass, maybe even take the test for s#its and giggles, but you'll clearly see the democrat party lies on the right of the graph because they are a capitalist party, not communist
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https://www.politicalcompass.org/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwu-mhJQxgg
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Same Soup, separate ingredients.

Olfactory Notes of manure, with hints of musk. Stale Urine contributes to the portfolio.
Tastes like Barnyard waste fermenting in wet heat and high humidity.
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Among other things, we can lower the crime rate by decriminalizing drugs and medicalizing addiction instead of criminalizing them, investing in a federal job guarantee, making private prisons illegal so capitalists don't have the incentive to lock people up to use for slave labor, and making prison slavery illegal. We'd also need to give citizens universal national healthcare and make all schools 100% federally funded to equalize the quality of education and get rid of the school-to-prison pipeline in poor areas
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