Look up the Battle of Stalingrad

I’m not even gonna try at this point

note: “smerkova khata” means “spruce house”

Far-right extremists have poor political representation in Ukraine and no plausible path to power. Indeed, in the 2014 parliamentary elections, the far-right nationalist party Svoboda received 4.7 percent of the vote. In the 2019 presidential election, the Svoboda candidate, Ruslan Koshulynskyy, won just 1.6 percent of the vote, and in the parliamentary elections, Svoboda won 2.2 percent of the vote. Svoboda currently holds one parliamentary seat.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who is Jewish, addressed the Russian public in a Feb. 24, 2022, speech, saying that these claims do not reflect the “real” Ukraine. “You are told we are Nazis. But could people who lost more than 8 million lives in the battle against Nazism support Nazism?”

This is exactly why I said I’m not gonna try at this point.

“Putler is literally Stalin and Russia is still ruled by the Bolsheviks” is disappointing but not surprising coming from a liberal, right after the usual strawman ofc

The man who said the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century and is perfectly fine with Stalin busts in Moscow and Volgograd seems pretty Bolshevik to me.

Liberal politicians doing their usual thing of paying lip service to problems in Russia and then not doing shit about it.

(Hmm, now why would a Russian politician talk about the disasters that followed after the collapse of the USSR to appeal to the Russian people? 🤔)

Alexei Navalny would have done something about it if he wasn’t thrown in jail.
Ilya Ponomarev would have done something about it if he wasn’t forced out of the country.

The disasters following the collapse of the USSR were caused by the consequences of years of communist repression as well as the inevitable political instability caused by the fall of an empire, not by democracy or free enterprise. The oligarchs are a product of endemic government corruption, a tradition dating back to the tsars that became nearly universal under the Soviet Union.

Of course the Russian people would have bad memories of the 90s and the associated instability, but only madmen like Zyuganov would want the USSR back.

“No you stupid vatniks!! The reason you want the USSR back isn’t because you personally experienced capitalism betray you by lunging you into poverty, but it’s simply because you Russian people simply don’t like that your country now has democracy!! Also not REAL capitalism!!”

If Eastern Europeans want the USSR back they would have voted for socialists.
People in Poland, for example, resent communist rule so much that they’d probably lynch the average tankie.
Also, thanks for reminding me of the word vatnik, I gotta use that more

I thought you were saying that Russia is a socialist nation under Putin. Why is it that now socialists in Eastern Europe wont elect socialist politicians? You do know Russia has elections, right?

(P.S. Calling someone another meaningless buzzword will only make yourself look like the idiot. Again.)

Putin’s rigged practically every single election since he became the acting president when Boris Yeltsin resigned.
Lukashenko has done the same in Belarus.
The rest of Eastern Europe is overwhelmingly hostile to socialism.

Living and work conditions in the Soviet Union were almost universally awful. Unless you lived in or around Moscow or St. Petersburg, your life would have been crap, and even worse in the colonial puppet states not part of the actual Union.
Remind me, when did the USSR start producing toilet paper?

Russia is ruled by the Bolsheviks. Putin is a Bolshevik. He is building socialism.
The Bolsheviks enslaved Russia once again the moment Yeltsin left office.

I didn’t respond to this because I thought you were just trying to invoke a reaction from me, but based off your last post, it turns out you unironically believe in this.

How would you define a Bolshevik, then? How would you define socialism? How is Russia socialist when there are still Russian oligarchs that have their greedy hands on massive amounts of private property? Oh, but I guess it’s not capitalist since it did a capitalism and disregarded the needs of the people. Like it always does.

And just the fact that you’re a Yeltsin apologist speaks for itself, honestly.

A Bolshevik is a Marxist-Leninist socialist who supports the Soviet Union under Lenin (and other rulers, depending on the variety of communist) and seeks to restore socialism in Russia.

Socialism is an economic system of communal government control over the economy and resources.

Shock therapy worked.

Exactly, socialism is an economic system of communal government control over the economy and resources. Something you see weirdly missing in the profit-based economy of modern Russia. And the oligarchs who own massive amounts of private property.

Yeah shock therapy worked, if your definition of working is suddenly making a huge proportion of the population not being able to make ends meet.

The oligarchs are part of the government. If they stop supporting the government they end up falling out a window.
Were citizens of the communist paradise Soviet Union able to make end’s meet in the 1930s?

Search up: Private lobbying in the U.S.

How many people are food insecure in your glorious capitalist U.S. paradise? Y’know, the richest country in the world that faces little to no external threat?

Political advocacy groups are much more powerful in lobbying than corporations here.
In Russia 85 percent of the population stockpiled food last year, so as flawed as US is sometimes, it’s light years better than the communist system.
36 million Russians are at risk of falling below the poverty line.
https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/russias-war-food

Apparently, the Soviet famine of 1930–1933 lasted all the way until 1991, since the implication here is that people in the USSR always had no food.

Though there wasn’t constant famine, one need only see how Yeltsin reacted after seeing a relatively small grocery store when visiting the United States.

This is exactly why I said I’m not even gonna try at this point. Idk why I bothered

The fact is that Russia continues to violate international law as well as other agreements to which it committed. By illegally annexing the Crimean peninsula and committing acts of armed aggression against Ukraine, Russia, one of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, has violated at least 12 international and bilateral treaties. These include the UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act, and the Charter of Paris, which guarantee sovereign equality and territorial integrity of States, the inviolability of frontiers, refraining from the threat or use of force, and the freedom of States to choose or change their own security arrangements.

In other words, Russia’s actions undermining and threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine, are illegal.

For years, the pro-Kremlin media have used highly emotional and fabricated messages to incite hatred and fear of Ukrainians, in particular among the domestic Russian audiences. Following the infamous fabrication about a “crucified boy”, circulated by the pro-Kremlin media back in 2014, there have been wild allegations of Ukrainian armed forces organizing “human safaris” where rich Westerners could allegedly buy the right to kill civilians in Donbas (2018). Similar claims about alleged “sniper safari” were made as recently as February 2022. In the spring of 2021, Russian state media heavily promoted the story of a 4-year boy in Donbas allegedly killed by a Ukrainian drone. By all accounts, the reason of his death was a forgery.

Such disinformation messages are closely linked to a prominent disinformation narrative of “Nazi” Ukraine, cultivated by the Kremlin for years. Now, Russia has used “denazification” as a pretext to invade Ukraine. In fact, Ukraine is governed by a democratically elected government. Over 8 million Ukrainians died fighting Nazism in the World War II.

Furthermore, the Azov Battalion was founded in May 2014. Putin invaded Crimea in February, and the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk were taken over by Bolshevik rebellion in April, before Azov could even form.
The notion that the precious Donbas people’s republics were founded because they had to resist le evil westoid ukronazis is garbage.

By accusing the Ukrainian government of the deadliest of crimes against humanity, the Kremlin not only tries to portray Kyiv as the worst of villains, but also abuses the term that is clearly defined in the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, adopted in 1948.

Such claims have been unequivocally debunked by independent Russian media, among others. None of the multiple reports on the human rights situation in Ukraine, which are regularly published by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, or the reports on the human rights situation in Ukraine come even close to referencing genocide in Ukraine. Ukraine has sought an emergency order from the International Court of Justice to halt hostilities on its territory based on Kremlin’s ill-intentioned accusation of genocide.

Throughout the years, the pro-Kremlin media have used the word “genocide” liberally, to describe things that have nothing to do with large-scale human rights violations, thus undermining this term of international law itself. Examples include alleged water and visa “genocide” in Crimea and “genocide” of Ukrainians refusing to buy Sputnik V vaccine.

To galvanize domestic support for Russia’s military aggression, Russian state-controlled media have tirelessly sought to vilify Ukraine, falsely accusing it of genocide in eastern Ukraine, drawing groundless parallels with Nazism and World War Two, and fabricating stories aimed at striking a negative emotional chord with audiences.

There are many instances of such fabricated stories, best illustrated by the famous example of a Russian television report accusing Ukrainian forces of crucifying a young boy in eastern Ukraine in the beginning of the conflict. Fact-checkers were quick to prove that the story was entirely made up. Similar stories continue to be produced.

In reality, there is no evidence that Russian-speaking or ethnic Russian residents in eastern Ukraine face persecution – let alone genocide — at the hands of Ukrainian authorities. This has been confirmed in reports published by the Council of Europe, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, and the OSCE.

The often-used claim that Ukraine and Russia are “one nation” is one of the oldest and most deeply ingrained myths used against Ukraine. Even from a long-term historic perspective, this argument does not hold. While they have common roots dating back to Kievan Rus, which existed from the ninth century to the mid-13th century, it is just not true to argue that Ukrainians and Russians are one nation 800 years later. Despite long periods of foreign rule, Ukraine has a strong national culture and identity, and is a sovereign country.

The notion of an “all-Russian nation” with no political borders is an ideological construct dating back to imperial times and has been used as an instrument to undermine Ukrainian sovereignty and national identity. Since 2014, the Russian government has cultivated this myth with renewed vigour in an attempt to rationalise and justify its military aggression against Ukraine.

Notions of “spheres of influence” have no place in the 21st century. Like all sovereign states, Ukraine is free to determine its own path, its foreign and security policies and alliances, and its participation in international organisations and military alliances.

To advance the idea that Ukraine belongs to Russia’s “sphere of influence,” Russian authorities and state-controlled media frequently claim that Ukraine is not a “real” state. State-sponsored Russian propaganda tries to misrepresent history in order to legitimize the idea that Ukraine belongs to Russia’s natural sphere of interests

Are all you Z-bots just Stalin fanbois?

Beep beep boop

Ukrainians are nazis no joke

Naziism and communism aren’t just two sides of the same coin, they’re two words on the same side of the same coin.