BIDEN flat out lied to get out of service and he should be investigated, and then arrested, for lying on official government documents to avoid the draft. Many people avoided and dodged the draft; none so cowardly and illegally as JOE BIDEN.

B b b but Trump!

And he didn't even go to military school like Cadet Bone Sours (2nd from left)!!

For Biden supports whom did not bother to vet their president, while playing college football Joe Biden sought and won a draft deferment during the Vietnam War for . . . asthma. But he did not give up playing football. Enjoy actual reality.

That’s not exactly true. He sought a bunch of deferments for being a student and his last deferment was for asthma. That’s why he’s a lying piece of shit. If he had asthma as a medical exemption, he wouldn’t have needed the first 4 student deferments - he would have been medically exempted from day one and hence there would be no need for a student exemption. He’s a lying disgrace. Oh, and that incident with CornPop…that was while he was a lifeguard but supposedly unable to be drafted, all the while playing football.

Yep . . . he manipulated the system. Many 'connected' draft age people did. It rather depended upon one's home state if it would work or not.

What libs refuse to remember, they were against the Vietnam War, and many deserted to Canada and Sweden...

Aye. My father was a WWII combat veteran and he gave my older brother and I his blessing to go to Canada instead of enter the military during Vietnam. But my older brother answered the draft and then volunteered for Vietnam -- fortunately they planted his dumb ass in Germany for four years instead.

The 'war' ended just before I turned 18. I volunteered for the military anyway and then spent a considerable amount of time thereafter tooling around the northern Atlantic ocean in a submarine. I don't blame the guys whom cut and ran for Canada . . . but I also think that thereafter they should have STAYED in Canada. Once you've made that bed then lay on it.

Indeed . . . Biden.

If that’s a requirement to be a republican Joe Biden and bill Clinton would make excellent republicans

It’s a fact, Robert

Turns out that they were right. If they had served in Nam then you would be calling them “baby killers”

At least you didn't get to be called that despite being enlisted.

I got called that . . . and this was just after Vietnam. We traveled in civilian clothing because we never knew when we'd run into a hate-filled liberal off base.

Sorry to hear you had to go though that.
I was a child then and had not witnessed it first hand, but had heard that that's how people were treating our Vets, and it made no sense to me even at a young age.

Actually I understood their feelings. It was just that they confused the soldier with the leadership.

Their feelings were based on extensive television coverage. Before that they read about bombing a German installation or maybe saw a newsreel in the cinema complete complete with patriotic music and saluting airmen on an aircraft carrier. People didn't spend much time considering that when the enemy got shot, they bled. It was all numbers and far away. They didn't see much of that happening to our own either.
The politicians were presented as wanting to stop the Red Menace and doing tei darndest to bring our boys back, so basically it was the soldiers that the negativity was ultimately pinned on by folks.

It was a shameful thing the way the public acted, and the guilt started setting in soon after the war was over. So now they say thank you for your service, which I kinda hesitate to say because it's a tad too automatic and simple. I don't know what to say, as it sounds thin. Like is that all I have to say? I feel it's insufficient but then anything more could be getting in too deep, almost prying, practically prodding.

But is that necessary now?

He's a vet. And he had nothing to do with that.

But I do see where you're coming from in terms of the referenced "Liberal/Conservative" paradigm.

Conservatives? That was the Ohio National Guard that was called to quell the crowd.

Not excusing the decision to take that action or minimize it to a simple "quell the crowd," but it's not the same as Joe Public spitting on a soldier that was one draft pick away from being them instead.

No, you were pulling a whataboutism.

I'm not trying to dismiss Kent State either, the way I was putting it, nor excuse those who shot those students. It's just false equivalence. Soldiers didn't get a heroes' welcome, they came home just to get spat on for fighting for America. A huge amount were drafted as well.
You can't equate demonstrating students getting shot by the National Guard with average citizens on the street spitting on Vets and calling them all sorts of things.

"I think it's because the people who did those things to them didn't see what they were doing as fighting for America. A lot of people didn't want us to be fighting in Vietnam because they didn't feel it was our fight, and they didn't like to see American soldiers getting killed for something we shouldn't have been involved in to begin with."

Exactly, but then they took it out on those soldiers anyways, as they were the easiest targets to access.

Fun fact... Joe Biden got more deferments than Joe Biden...

Donald Trump and the Chickenhawk Brigade...

Simpletons would do well to remember, that Republicans are equal-opportunity; frequently hawkish on war while being even more hawkish about NOT serving in said wars...

Quite the baseball player too!

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That too…

Which is REALLY weird for someone who’s asthma was so bad that he couldn’t be drafted.

Must have been that pesky 24hr asthma, right?"

🔲 Who is asthma?

▶️ "Must have been that pesky 24hr asthma, right?"

🔲 Naah, 'twas a bad case of the bone spurs.

Dopey Biden didn't attend New York Military Academy nor did he pose for that photo.
That there is the illustrious Diaper Donny, the ardent lover of commies and tepid dick tater [see what I did there?] apprentice [see that one too?].