Thor is he though

So is this just an ALT account for you? Do you never have to call upon a mod - because you are one?

Because the moderation on that page seems VERY one-sided. And the timing on the moderations seems very ODD, and remarkably swift - but again, only in one direction. Right after I signed off with you here - almost immediately you get more help from the Ref, over there.

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Is respect a two-way street? Or is this a situation where you can act as disrespectfully as you'd like - and I'm just supposed to take that, without responding in kind?

Is calling a DNCIA Propaganda spewing Democrat a "$hitLib" (a common enough term, on the actual left, since the 2016 $hillary campaign) - any worse than calling an actual leftist a "MAGA" or a "false flagger"?

It seems like the real rule on that stream is just that a certain flavor of bullshit must always be protected - and it's a "safe space" for DNCIA lies and liars.

I have 1 account. I don’t call on mods. You see a lot, but I wonder what you would see if your lens became a mirror.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230113090144/https%3A%2F%2Fimgflip.com%2Fi%2F76kkjw

So how does this mod hover and swoop so propitiously for you? The timing seems odd.

Probably because this is such an awesome guy getting bullied by meanypants, as can be seen on this meme from Jan where 1st night a stream mod came to his defense then on the 3rd day a site mod did likewise, and yes, so obviously 'coincidental':

https://web.archive.org/web/20230113090144/https%3A%2F%2Fimgflip.com%2Fi%2F76kkjw

What is the point of disparaging me like this?

You asked me too. You said I made it up.
How do you like what I hath wrought?

I can’t click on links, so I can’t see what you are pissing you pants about😂 also I don’t care and you should get over it🤣

So stop making a big deal about it and not keep cramming my notifs then?

Hmm, you are the worst type of hypocrite, because you don’t know that you are one. I didn’t start this.

I have no idea, I’m not friends with any mods, for the most part or seems like they can’t stand me.

When you have to cheat to win, the W's are just L's. I don't know what kind of game is being played over there - but I'm planning to find out. In the meantime, I'm blowing a whistle and throwing flags.

Blow them! Throw them, do whatever you want! Search my whole catalog, you will never see a mod being nice to me. And Correcting my grammar doesn’t count.

I'm a typo machine, myself - not spelling or grammar nazi.

If you're truly an innocent party to those 'Terrible Moderations', then accept my apologies in advance. But that "moderation"/moderator(s) needs to be called out.

I'm not searching through anybody's catalogue. And a slick operation wouldn't leave anything to find, anyways.

A slick operation 🤣 you are too much dude! Politics Moderators have never really given me a hard time. Other streams give me hard time. No need to apologize, I don’t get offended by people who say stuff on-line.

KylieFan is Slobama's 1st account. He was accused of being a DNC secret agent by so many, that he one day posted this way fab wall of text 'confession' that despite being clearly satirical and funny as heck, everyone literally believed it was literally true. Literally. Everybody. Except for the one that started the rumor/accusation that he was sent here by 'Thuh Man'

KylieFan admitted to being part of a slick operation. I recognize patterns pretty well.

I gave you a link to:
"Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation". Could anyone employ so many of those, unconsciously?

I don’t know what kyliefan is I’ve never heard of he/she/they/it. I appreciate you think that I’m part of a slick operation. 😁

WHAT is your evidence to sustain your claim that the guy who attack Paul Pelosi was "MAGA". You presented 0. I showed you clear indications that he wasn't. You falsely claim that these were "strawmans" and argue that I'm a "false flagger" (an example of the "ad hominem tu quoque' " fallacy, and baseless at that).

You have presented no facts at all. If you did - what were they? It was I who called "bullshit" on this facile DNCIA talking point, of yours - and you who apparently called the Mod, on me. You can disagree with my analysis - for which I provided ample evidence. But what is your evidence to substantiate the idea that this guy was "MAGA"?

WHO TOLD YOU THAT - and why would you believe them?

I like to banter, I’ve never called on a mod for anything. I’ve only flagged two people since I started this account and it wasn’t because I was losing an argument, it’s because they were being relentlessly childish and annoying. This guy is a MAGAT, and you have shown me nothing that changes my mind. You have no real world experience to base any of that on and you know nothing about the pelosis personal life other than what you have read on-line. I’m just taking the words of the people who were actually involved. Also I would like to know what you think it means to be a leftist.

How does being a nudist, from Canada, living in a bus, parked outside of a Bay Area commune - make someone a likely Trump supporter? Trumpies like guns... Where was his?

The Feds have selectively leaked things from his bizarre and politically incoherent online writings, to a series of DNCIA-friendly "hack" journalists (like those at the Daily Beast), in order to propagate two diametrically opposed theories of who he is. Does that not arouse the slightest bit of suspicion, on your part?

What has you so convinced that he's a Trump supporter? That's clearly a myth that would be politically useful for Pelosi, and the corrupt corporatist Democrats - because it positions them as martyrs for the little folks, persecuted by Trumpers, who serve the rich and the racist.

But the reality, is that Pelosi is one of the richest and least likeable people in Congress, having grown fat by selling out the working class, and progressives, to Wall Street, the Technocratic Surveillance State and the Imperialist war machine. And don't forget insider stock trades, along with off-the-books bribes and kick-backs - her wealth has ballooned during her time in office. She's popular with Democrats in Congress, because she funnels them money.

She's one of the least liked members, of Congress (amongst the public), which is saying something. You don't have to be a Trumpie to hate her. You can do that from anywhere on the political spectrum.

In this case you weren't really making a discernable argument - just casting aspersions upon me, for pointing out that what you were saying wasn't likely to be true. Saying I'm "MAGA" and not a leftist is the "ad hominem tu quoque' " fallacy. Even if that were true - it wouldn't negate my points - and it isn't.

To me the left is many things - but subservient and braindead towards the corporatist Democrats, it isn't.
I've been almost as disappointed with P&F lately , as the Democrats. But here is their latest full platform.
https://www.peaceandfreedom.us/about-us/platform/full-platform

I don't automatically agree with all of it. But until the Movement for a People's Party gets on the California ballot, that's where I remain. Currently I favor RFK Jr. in 2024 - but we're not at 100%, either. In the end I think it means remaining capable of using your own logic and discernment. So I'm probably Anarcho-Libertarian Socialist, or Voluntarist. I believe in a safety net, with Opt-out provisions.

Pelosi was w/ a man for his DUI.

Like my ol' Granpappy Modda used to say,
If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, THEN it ain't yet another slovenly
bearded trailer trash raised MAGAt living out of a busted ass school bus or something.

As my personal friend Cindy Shehan says over at her Substack - 'time to take out the Garbage (people)'.

The guy was a nudist hippie, living in front of a Berkeley commune. If he had Assault weapons instead of a hammer - the story would gave been a different one, than the heavily massaged narrative that we were told, don't ya' think... (That was rhetorical - you've never shown much in the way of thinking accumen).

A more likely story, is that he knew Paul Pelosi as some kind of hook-up, and therefore knew the layout of the crimescene, and had some kind of motivation that inspired the attack.

Pt. 1:

https://www.altscene.com/profile/view/259147

This is the world famous Count Chuckula as seen on Reddit and the amateur male yank-the-schlank section of PornHub. No details on either because one still pic was too much for mine eyes. Someone once posted it on the forum on AltScene, naughty bit obscured. The actual vid is total cringe and puke city, word has it. They thrash the hell out of him, and he thinks it's a fanbase. When I first saw him, I figured he was a somewhat homely women, as you can see with his profile pics.

Have a look at that. Tell me who he voted for.

Pt. 2

Now look at hs forum post:

https://www.altscene.com/forum/view_post/38124

There are others like it.

FUN FACT: There simply aren't 74 million slovenly neckbeard fermented septic tank crawling trailer trash MAGAts in America. The difference is made up with others types, including long haired eye liner sporting Lestat wannabe rejects who listen to Alternative Rock. Oh, and his gun? Well, let's just say it's a bit on th 'fleshy side'

I understand this is a major shocker in terms of tropes, but Chuckula isn't the only one, even on that site - just the unintentionally funniest. There's even HC Punkers, and others. Heck, the "Punks for Trump" movement was actually purposely started by anti-Trumpers who wanted to revive the HC scene by putting someone as antagonistically annoying and fascist teetering as Reagan in office, the theory being that it's golden era in the US & UK didn't coincidentally coincide with Reagan & Thatcher in office (that Punk started to suck and not in a good way by '85 refutes that notion). It was never intended to get become an actual pro-Trump thing as it later did.

But you know this already, being of that movement yourself, don't you?

Oh, and to whom it may concern, I am not mocking Vamp/Chockula as a trans or whatever. As his profile states, he is seeking women for dating, and he has been rather emphatic about not only not being LGBT, but actually hating them rather thoroughly, which is one of the reasons he gets grief on that forum, as it's always been very LGBT friendly and supportive. His hypocrsy is pointed out, as he claims he did not post his video in the section it can be found in, and is thus not a reflection of his orientation.

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Hey Modda, I’m glad you’ve been commenting on my threads again. We can work up to upvotes. 🤣 thank you for filling me in on Kyliefan. Believe it or not, this isn’t my first account, but I only go back to better call sloth.

That doesn't really look like the guy at Pelosi's house - who is from Canada, not Florida.

And from what I hear - the guy who attacked Pelosi was all over the place with his writings - a bit like a Rorschach test for the Pelosi's Crisis PR Team, and the Presstitutes/"Journalists" who helped spin the story in two diametrically opposed directions - only one of which was "MAGA".

You may be surprised to learn that not all MSM sex workers actually identify as gay. Some are just 'gay-for-pay'. If he dislikes gay people that could have been an additional motive for him.

You see. There was a way to have rational conversation about this topic, without descending to name-calling, and the ad hominem tu quoque' fallacy.

Ahh, so he's NOT from the Castro District?

Something... something... something not at all related to my post...

Got any questions with what Vamp sez? Go and discuss it with him. I'm not responsible for his phoniness and bullshit. I don't live in Florida. I've not even on that site anymore. Heck, he came in AFTER I got gone. I heard about him from someone who trolls that forum, I've joined him with that on a couple of occasions, but for a limited time. Place went down right after I departed. Sucks shit now.

Berkeley by way of Canada, from what I heard - but again - not positive that's him, or if he even even has but one personality. Dude was apparently pretty nuts.

John Wayne Gacy wasn't just a Democrat - he was some kind of party official. Is that where we lay the blame for his crimes?

That's what you do.

How much you get paid for this shilling?

I'm not the one $hilling and desperately spinning - to preserve a DNCIA narrative.

And just like when I was a Pacifica Broadcaster and News Producer - I'm doing it strictly for the love of the truth, and of getting/setting the story straight.

I never really understood your motivations, but then I don't really care enough to speculate, either.

You don't know who I am? This alt of Modda is actually Modda. Yes, THAT Modda.

Regardless, I DO remember you. Left of Left Antifa type headed off to le grande revolucion, yes? That was you?

Then you switched to, "Yes, Lefty, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut........." and started doing the anti-Trump but in effect pro-Trump out of pity dance, yes? A year after your ex went from peacenik Hippie type to full on Trumper, yes? That you guys, or have your accounts gotten hacked? pffffffffffft, you even claim to have had Covid while maintaining it's not a real disease.

Yup, sure don't look like shilling to me.

We know exactly who this guy is🤣 for all his faults though, at least he likes to banter. Maybe someday he’ll do it all under one name. And one philosophy. If he can ever keep it real. If he is even a he. Or is she he it they/ is even a real person. Heck maybe he’ll even change someone’s mind about something some day. Haven’t had much luck with that myself.

Your memory is a rotten as your motivations, I fear.

Trump is already bad enough - that the Democrats didn't need to make-up the "Russia Collusion/Evidence-free Conspiracy Theory" (as actual left Journalist Aaron Maté puts it. He's the former Democracy Now! and now Grayzone/Substack journalist who debunked that story, and won investigative journalism awards fir doing so. He also exposed the Cover-up of the OPCW's Fact Finding Mission Report on Douma, showing that it was the US-back Terrorists, and not Assad who gassed those people. He was recently seen addressing the UN Security Council). They did so as a form of Neo-McCarthyite Red-baiting, and to prevent Trump from having any room to seek any rapprochement with Russia, politically, in advance of their long-planned war in Ukraine.

But whatever. You can read things through whatever broken lens you want to, and compare the results to your broken political compass. "That's like your opinion man", and I don't think that anyone reasonable gives that much weight.

When I see you at a Peace Rally, or at a CodePink meeting... You'll moving towards a place where you can question my credentials as a leftist.

Yeah, next totally inefective rally when?

How bout this, we enlarge your posts onto placards and you can show the rest of the semi-annual marching do-nothings 'tha truth'?

$hilling implies payment ... Who pays people to ask that the attacks made against Trump and the GOP aren't just completely fabricated Intelligence Operations, like "RussiaGate", and New Knowledge®'s smears against Judge Roy Moore - but rather substantive disagreements about their abhorrent policies?

You have a very rich fantasy life.

I thought I told you not to send me giant messages like that. Not even any pics? I don’t understand why it’s so important for you to get me to believe hogwash?

You asked a bunch of questions - I answered them. I asked you questions seceral times - and you've got nothing. THAT - is textbook hogwash. Or "Sealioning". Where I come from - reason rules over bullshit. So you take an "L". If you had a point worth making, you'd have made it by now. So it looks like my assessment of you was correct. Perhaps that's why your bodyguard needed to step-in 'to protect a defenseless fighter'. In the cage that's an automatic TKO.

You haven't proven worthy of spending any of my time on, creating images.

Oh no, please don't. Please don't go MMA with your alt donning that prairie dog killer B-B-BROCK LE-LE-LESSSSSSNERRRRRRRRR suit while you go John Cena and threaten to literally come over and tag team whomever to death. That angle hasn't worked out that well in 7 years now, has it?

I'm telling you this as a friend.

We're not friends. And nobody asked for your advice.

Is tiny tots even still around, or is he out flexing his toothpick hunting prarie dogs with his brother and a howitzer?

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Hmm. You mad bro? I asked 2 questions, and you didn’t answer either of them. The only thing talking an L here is your propaganda talking points. I guess you need to sharpen your skills because I’m not convinced! All I said was I’m taking the word of the people involved, you said a whole bunch of other stuff, not a word of it true. But I do appreciate the banter.👉👉 finger guns!

A) Bullshit - what two questions did you ask that you think I didn't answer...?

And B) whose "talking points" are you claiming that I'm relying upon?

I'm a journalist, a broadcaster and a pretty good lawyer. You look alot like a "KylieFan"-type, to me.

My area of experience as broadcaster, was in Covert Operations Research. I know what rats smell like. I've seen the Tradecraft of David Brock and Sally Albright, before.

The Pelosis aren't to be taken at face value. They have whole Crisis PR Teams set-up to create their most favorable fable. The Cop or the reporter who was investigating this case got punished. We had an eerie period of radio silence, and then a PR Blitz. As I explained - I don't expect you to EVER acknowledge anything that conflicts with the narrative you're spinning.

http://whale.to/m/disin.html

"9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect."

You're using several of the techniques here, in these two threads. It's not hard to read.

I asked what it means to you to be a leftist.

I asked why it was important for you to get me to believe hogwash.

My only special technique is cutting through the crap cake 🤣I’m no operative, but it’s funny that is the conclusion you came to. Seems like you have lots of experience and training so you should be able to take me down.

I told you what my philosophy was - and pointed you in the direction of the Peace and Freedom platform - which I'm probably ~70% in agreement with in theory...so I answered that.

And I explained that you're the one making hogwash claims. Burden of proof is on you to prove your case - not the onerous task, of me proving a negative - but I gave you solid reasoning that does that, already, several times.

You making baseless assertions, false ad hominem tu quoque' fallacies, and namecalling... How does that cut through anything? Those are sophomoric debating tricks - not convincing rational arguments.

Ad hominem guy. So many words, not saying nothing. Your chopped up delusional version of what left is really does make you the first libtard I have actually met. So congratulations on that. I don’t recall making any claims. What are these baseless assertions I have made? They are not baseless if they are based on stuff you say!

Did I claim he was MAGA or am I going with the story from the people who were actually involved and not you. Your false flag attempt is not good enough.

My sources are the people involved in the incident. You want me to ignore them, and take your word for it because you know a couple MAGA types, and Paul pelosi made your gaydar tingle.🤣🤣🤣🤣 it doesn’t get more absurd than that!

I asked for your sources - you still haven't supplied anything but vague assertions. The people that were there were him and Paul Pelosi. Did HE say he's MAGA? No. No he didn't - unless you have something that missed my attention - and if you did, why haven't you provided a link to that effect, yet.

How would Paul Pelosi know this guy's politics? Is he psychic? Can he read minds? The guy said he hates Nancy - so does a large portion of the country, and from all directions, not just MAGA-country. Berkeley is a very low percentage MAGA, btw.

You appear to be going with the story from MSDNCIA, but we won't know until you give a coherent and specific answer, as to what EXACTLY is your source for this. The Daily Beast may say that now, too ... But at first, they said he was a leftist and a Jimmy Dore fan...the former seems likely, the latter like another failed smear attempt towards Jimmy, who's on the Pelosi/DNCIA enemies list, just as much as MAGA, if not more. But that story got taken down and 'memoryholed', very quickly, and replaced with the MAGA tale...which is ODD. You're the one planting flags - I'm the one pointing out that the DNCIA lie machine has put out two mutually exclusive and contradictory stories already - and that nothing about this guy looks like MAGA, to me...and I do have some contact with MAGA types, and pretty good radar for spotting them...and decent gay-dar for spotting Pelosi's cruising habits. This cat looks more like rough trade, than a Trump fan.

You CLAIMED that Pelosi's attacker was "MAGA" - what's the evidence for that?

And no. I'm not a Lib of any sort. The left isn't my definition. It is, what is, globally - not within the Overton Window of Corporatist Media. The P&F platform I gave you has a wide array of positions - all of them left...I didn't write it.

Opposition to Empire and War are left - hence Pelosi and Biden are NOT left. A society that shares and spreads the benefits of economic surplus value, rather than concentrating it into fewer and fewer hands, is left. Dems may talk about it - but when do they BE about?